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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Is this 84 Z28 correct?

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Is that steering wheel original? And the shift ****? Those both appear to be from a newer 3rd gen. And the radio doesn't look right either. Wondering if the previous owner had a bunch of aftermarket parts installed and took them out before he sold it!
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Stereo, shift **** and steering wheel are all correct.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Those are stock for a Z28
That car is clean.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Hmm, I had the exact same car but had the standard square center steering wheel and plastic ball shift ****. Guess I was the one who wasn't stock!
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Everything looks correct to me. That style radio with the push/pull cassette control button was only used for a year or two.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

The car is very origional, although I'm not convinced that the leather shift **** was an 84 thing.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

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The car is very origional, although I'm not convinced that the leather shift **** was an 84 thing.
My '84 HO had a leather shift ****. Around '93 or so, the stiching wore out and the leather peeled off.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

That car is correct. The Z28 provided a leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter. I see nothing incorrect about this car. I'll take it.

If you had a Z28 with the square horn button, then you either didn't have a Z28 or you didn't have a stock steering wheel.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

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My '84 HO had a leather shift ****. Around '93 or so, the stiching wore out and the leather peeled off.
Mine looks just like an eight ball.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Originally Posted by Kevin84Z28
Mine looks just like an eight ball.
That is what is underneath. Just the regular shift **** without leather. Either yours wore off like mine, or somebody swapped it for a regular ****.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

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Mine looks just like an eight ball.
Mine does too, and there was never leather on it as far as I know. -But I have a '83.
Sweet car anyways! But worth 7K??
EDIT: I also have an original dealer's brochure on the '83 model, I'll double check that....not that it matters anyway, still a nice HO...

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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

It all looks right as rain to me. Nice car. I see a lot of that dealer's ads on eBay...for a new car dealer, he seems to have a lot of mint low-mile older cars for sale. I think he has an '89 Formula 350 with under 10K miles on it also.

To me, a mint original '84 H.O. is definitely worth more than $7K, although I would prefer T-tops on one of those.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Confuzed1 you won't find info on the HO in the '83 Dealer Brochure as the L69 was a mid-year addition. The brochures were printed ahead of fall release and generally weren't updated. It doesn't even show the color of my '83 in it as it was a late release (code 59 beige). The picture one of the manual shifter in it looks like it's leather covered (vinyl maybe).

Although I can't speak for the manual shift ball the one on my '83 auto shifter is leather covered. And another difference between the '82-'83 Z28 is the steering wheel. At first glance they look the same but the '82-'83 wheel has a groove cut in the lower spoke of the wheel. The '84-'88 (or is the last year '89 before the airbag wheel) just have the grooves in the upper spokes. I'm lucky the leather on mine is decent as finding the correct replacement one is hard.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

My 84 had the same wheel with two grooves, and leather shift ball and e-brake handle.
That is a very clean car, even having what looks like the original tires.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Did anybody besides me check out the other cars that seller is auctioning? He has a super clean 83 Camaro Z28 L69 H/O, a 1988 Pontiac Formula and a 1991Camaro RS Convertible.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Originally Posted by TTA 1387
My '84 HO had a leather shift ****. Around '93 or so, the stiching wore out and the leather peeled off.
My 83 leather cover wore off too, but I thought the stitching ran horizontal. I can't remember for sure. I have two NOS ***** and they both run horizontally. I did save my old cover. I'll have to find it to see how it was originally.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

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My 83 leather cover wore off too, but I thought the stitching ran horizontal. I can't remember for sure. I have two NOS ***** and they both run horizontally. I did save my old cover. I'll have to find it to see how it was originally.
Mine ran vertical, just like pictured. Except mine was straight front to back.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

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Confuzed1 you won't find info on the HO in the '83 Dealer Brochure as the L69 was a mid-year addition. The brochures were printed ahead of fall release and generally weren't updated. It doesn't even show the color of my '83 in it as it was a late release (code 59 beige). The picture one of the manual shifter in it looks like it's leather covered (vinyl maybe).

Although I can't speak for the manual shift ball the one on my '83 auto shifter is leather covered. And another difference between the '82-'83 Z28 is the steering wheel. At first glance they look the same but the '82-'83 wheel has a groove cut in the lower spoke of the wheel. The '84-'88 (or is the last year '89 before the airbag wheel) just have the grooves in the upper spokes. I'm lucky the leather on mine is decent as finding the correct replacement one is hard.
Ahhh.....no. I have a 1983 brochure WITH the "new" L69 HO option mentioned and it even has a chart as to what options were available on all the models for '83. The only thing it ended up being wrong about was having an automatic trans as an option. I bought my car off the original owner. I even have the "Rusty Jones" rustproofing certificate from the dealer. But you are correct, it was a mid-year addition. My car's original build date was in august.

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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Originally Posted by Confuzed1
Ahhh.....no. I have a 1983 brochure WITH the "new" L69 HO option mentioned and it even has a chart as to what options were available on all the models for '83. The only thing it ended up being wrong about was having an automatic trans as an option.
I had no idea they printed up a late edition brochure that included the H.O.! I probably got my brochure in 82 or early 83.

I'll have to find one on eBay. I see them all the time. I just need to determine where the changes are in it so I get the right one. Do you have any scans of it so I can see what I need to look for?
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Confuzed1 I apologise as ,like 69-er, wasn't aware that a late/mid year brochure was printed. basically the '83 was a general reprint with updates of the '82 brochure. If you would have a chance to post a picture of the cover. And also does it show beige as an exterior color option. Thank you
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

I have been over to this dealer to check out this car as well as a few others.

This car as well as all the others are the "real deal" - they are SHARP cars. I hear the owner is a big-time car collector/enthusiast. Besides the showroom, he has a warehouse FULL of cars, which we got to see.

I was drooling for quite some time!

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Originally Posted by Confuzed1
Ahhh.....no. I have a 1983 brochure WITH the "new" L69 HO option mentioned and it even has a chart as to what options were available on all the models for '83.
Hey Confuzed1, do you know what the printing date is for that brochure?
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Wow, that was a nice. . . I'd pay that price for it.

Looks like the only thing that Z28 needs is a new set of tires (looked original as well!) and good vacuuming. . . Hope whoever won it enjoys it.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

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My 83 leather cover wore off too, but I thought the stitching ran horizontal. I can't remember for sure. I have two NOS ***** and they both run horizontally. I did save my old cover. I'll have to find it to see how it was originally.
I found my original shifter ball cover. The stitching is vertical. Weird how the NOS ***** are horizontal, although I've seen it before where NOS parts aren't exactly like the assembly line supplied parts.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 06:10 AM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

some years were vertical and others were horizontal. I don't remember what year they switched to horizontal.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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Interesting... I'll have to see when they switched. In the meantime, I might try to recover my old ball. I wonder how hard it would be to stretch some leather around a ball and stitch it tightly? Sounds like it would be a PITA.

I did my steering wheel several years ago and the stitching turned out very nicely. In fact, it's doing better than the original did. It's not all twisting around at the top. I'd like to do it again because the material wasn't wide enough to cover the spokes the first time.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 05:39 AM
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Re: Is this 84 Z28 correct?

Originally Posted by scottmoyer
some years were vertical and others were horizontal. I don't remember what year they switched to horizontal.
I know 83's are vertical on the automatics.

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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My 84 Z28 with the original leather steering wheel (grooves on the top spokes only), leather shift **** (vertical stitching), and leather e-brake handle.
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