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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

There have been a few times when I've spoken to people who work on cars or know about them in certain areas & when we get into the topic of my car or IROC's in general they will argue to death with me on the fact that the last IROC-Z Camaro was produced on 12/31/1989 and that there were no IROC's in 1995......

They all seem to think that GM kept making them past that date for the 1990 year. Eventually I'm able to prove them wrong but by then I feel like an a--hole, lol.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

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There have been a few times when I've spoken to people who work on cars or know about them in certain areas & when we get into the topic of my car or IROC's in general they will argue to death with me on the fact that the last IROC-Z Camaro was produced on 12/31/1989 and that there were no IROC's in 1995......

They all seem to think that GM kept making them past that date for the 1990 year. Eventually I'm able to prove them wrong but by then I feel like an a--hole, lol.
The 1990 model year was only a half year of production due to Chevrolet not renewing the IROC contract, no IROC-Z's were produced after 12/31/1989. Instead, the 1991 Camaros were introduced early during last half of the 1990 model year.1990 IROC's and RS's are easily identifiable: 1990 was the first year for the updated interior which included drivers side airbag, redesigned instrument panel, yellow lettering on dash, rounded controls, etc. So 1990 Chevy Camaro IROC's are the only '90 Camaro IROC's with the new interior.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

To most people, any thirdgen Camaro is a Iroc the same as any 87-93 Mustang is a 5.0. It's just how people identify the cars, it doesn't matter if it's 100% accurate.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

yeah i agree when i say i have a 91 camaro people dont generally kno what i mean then when i say you kno an IROC they seem to know exactly what I'm talking about, i think most people who dont know much about thirdgens tend to think that all thirdgen body style camaros were IROC'S
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

Originally Posted by BigLou907
yeah i agree when i say i have a 91 camaro people dont generally kno what i mean then when i say you kno an IROC they seem to know exactly what I'm talking about, i think most people who dont know much about thirdgens tend to think that all thirdgen body style camaros were IROC'S
Due to misfortune my 86 Z-28 met a car and a gaurdrail on the freeway so it now has iroc doors and fenders on it, one of the main differences is the striping itself was not the same between the two, and the hardest part is when i go to the picapart there aren't any Z-28 camaros out there, mostly the damn 2.8 P.O.S.'s and multiport.
needless to say, it's hard to find parts for my car, but i did get lucky and grab a yenko style fiberglass hood for 50 bucks.
Plus noone in the parts stores know anything about camaro either.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

What is a Yenko styled hood? The Yenko Camaros had the standard ZL2 Cowl Induction hood that most Z28s had.
Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

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What is a Yenko styled hood? The Yenko Camaros had the standard ZL2 Cowl Induction hood that most Z28s had.
This is the hood that classic industries sells as a yenko hood.

Only I got it from the picapart for 50 bucks
Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

There was never any Yenko 3rd gen, but what are you guys referring to as a Yenko hood?
Old Jan 25, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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I Looked @ pics in his profile... looks like a Yenko Duece (Nova) hood scoop...or a 'Vette big block scoop IIRC. Stinger??? Too much info in my head, probably not much of it correct
Old Jan 25, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

It happens, people refer to my Formula 350 as a Trans am. Even the announcer at the track called it a Trans Am..even though the Trans Am sports totally different bumpers, ground effects and and hood!

Sometimes they just generalize with the "icon" of that model, just nod your head. lol
Old Jan 25, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

Yeah same here, everyone calls my car a Trans Am... I tell them its a firebird. I think if I told them it was a formula, they would get confused... I had a guy trying to buy my car and said he also had a "formula 500" at home. I mean seriously, is it too hard to read the side of my car? haha It says Formula 350 right there...
Old Jan 25, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

I heard a long time ago (meaning not as reliable) that the IROC's ceased production in '88. I'm going to agree with this thread. Ive only owned my camaro for almost a year and I've learned a lot more about them than I thought I knew. But when I got my Camaro it was badged and dressed like a real IROC-Z28. The insurance card said RS, so I knew it wasnt an IROC. But now that I know this it makes me feel like a retard when I think back on when I told people that it was 1991 Camaro IROC-Z28. But its great to know now.
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

I have been asked more about my "Trans Am" than anything else haha. A guy walk up looked over my car at the race track and ask if it was a 305 . I dont know how people miss the door decals... anyway at the shop I used to work at all of us guys took to calling all mustangs Five-Oh's even if we knew they we 4.6 cars or whatever, used to bug the hell out of mustang guys at the track
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

When you drive a Formula and you get "Nice XXXXXX" where XXXXXX is Camaro, Iroc, Trans Am, I'll admit it's a bit like nails on a chalk board. But personally my favorite pet peeve is "Nice Corvette!". I've gotten that one so many times I can't keep track. It was really bad before I replaced the missing Formula decals.

Personally I like that people think my car is a 305. It's more entertaining that way. I was sitting at a stoplight next to a really nice 98-up WS6 T/A. He started out asking my room mate in the passengers seat if my car was fast, then he said "just a 305?" neither of us was going to correct him. My buddy pointed out that we were in a Formula, and this guy says "so is this" referring to his Trans Am. When the light changed he dumped his clutch and got to watch me drive away while he lit up his tires.
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

The other one I have heard is either your car is an IROC (like mentioned above) or if your Camaro doesn't have the all the spoilers and such, then it's a Berlinetta model.
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

Originally Posted by Bullydawg
Yeah same here, everyone calls my car a Trans Am... I tell them its a firebird. I think if I told them it was a formula, they would get confused... I had a guy trying to buy my car and said he also had a "formula 500" at home. I mean seriously, is it too hard to read the side of my car? haha It says Formula 350 right there...
That's kinda funny. I usually get, nice firebird. Again it says Trans Am on the door. The thing that generally irritates me is when I get asked if it's a WS6, (I have a fiberglass WS6 style hood) When I say no they look at my car like it's a piece of ****. So I just don't correct people about it anymore as it irritates me. I just say yes, it's faster than your car.

I did get the IROC question alot when I had my 84 Z28
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

That isn't so bad with one sub-model or model being mixed up with another sub-model.

Try arguing with some 4th gen owners who claim that WS6 isn't just an RPO code. Then try telling them they have nothing more than a Trans Am (or Formula) with a fancy emblem on the back and at least the third generation Trans Am had a base T/A and actual sub-model called the Trans Am GTA.
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

My car usually gets called Kitt or knight rider. I have heard it so much I don't care but I do correct them.
Originally Posted by Drew
But personally my favorite pet peeve is "Nice Corvette!".
Wow, that is just about as stupid as when someone told me my camaro looks like a cop car.
Note: This kid was not alive when the third gen was used as a cop car and my car is black with a cowl hood. It's the anti-cop car. Plus he didn't even know it was a camaro.
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

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My car usually gets called Kitt or knight rider. I have heard it so much I don't care but I do correct them.

Wow, that is just about as stupid as when someone told me my camaro looks like a cop car.
Note: This kid was not alive when the third gen was used as a cop car and my car is black with a cowl hood. It's the anti-cop car. Plus he didn't even know it was a camaro.
omg wow ppl are so retarded. its actually kinda funny how dumb ppl are....as im sure you know kitt was a firebird.
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

Back in the day, I was out cruising Stevens Creek Blvd. in San Jose with my buddy in his '68 Z-28.

His Z-28 is a Rally Sport with a Z-28 option; you really can't tell it's a Z-28 other than the "302" badges on the fenders up near the headlights.

Anyway, I had my window rolled down and a really cute Hispanic girl rolls up next to me and asks, "Is that a Boss 302???"



OK.....
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

The first year GM did the 5.7 350,was in 1987.You may have being able to order the 1LE in 86 ! The 350 only came with an automatic ,700r4.This was because GM did not want the Camaro competing with Corvette for performance, at a cheaper price
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

Originally Posted by Firebat
That isn't so bad with one sub-model or model being mixed up with another sub-model.

Try arguing with some 4th gen owners who claim that WS6 isn't just an RPO code. Then try telling them they have nothing more than a Trans Am (or Formula) with a fancy emblem on the back and at least the third generation Trans Am had a base T/A and actual sub-model called the Trans Am GTA.
Don't forget the badass hood! Also different shocks and springs. Drive train wise there is not difference though.
Old Feb 5, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

Originally Posted by rapid rods
The first year GM did the 5.7 350,was in 1987.You may have being able to order the 1LE in 86 ! The 350 only came with an automatic ,700r4.This was because GM did not want the Camaro competing with Corvette for performance, at a cheaper price
The 84 had a 5.7L 350 in it, they took the 350 option out of the 86 for some emissions reason and the only option then was tyhe 305 with either a carb or tuned port. but in 87 they decided to bring the 350 back for the camaro.
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Originally Posted by rednekwizard
The 84 had a 5.7L 350 in it, they took the 350 option out of the 86 for some emissions reason and the only option then was tyhe 305 with either a carb or tuned port. but in 87 they decided to bring the 350 back for the camaro.
Negative.

GM Ceasesed offering a 350 in camaros in 82, and did not reintroduce it again in the camaro until 87
Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

Ditto. With a possible 50 L98 engines being produced in '86, but not for the general public. As for '84 or even '85, no such cubic inches.
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Re: Why do people say it's an IROC when it's not?!?

Guys, please do not spout out details that are grossly incorrect. The 1LE was not available in 86. It was first available in 1988 and there were only 4 produced. The 350 did return in 87 with an auto, and not available with a 5 speed but it was not because of the rumored "better than the Vette" story that has been incorrectly stated. I have no idea where the idea that the 350 was available in the Fbody since 84. That is totally incorrect.

I also think the original question was asked and answered.
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