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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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I have a few NOS parts still in the original GM packaging. I bought them years ago for an 82 Z28 that I sold. I plan to offer them for sale sometime in the future.

I listed them in the 'for sale' section here and got zero replys. They have never been repoped that I know of and I priced them below what I paid for them from GM.

Many of the parts fit other year Camaros and a few Birds. So I'am wondering:

The economy is down and no one is interested.
Thirdgen owners don't know what NOS means.
Thirdgen owners are only looking for cheezy, used parts cheap.

Your thoughts..?

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Part of the problem I think is that the term NOS is overused. Especially on ebay. Most people on ebay dont understand that NOS means an Old part that is new, instead they have a new part, sometimes new GM restoration approved parts from China and call it NOS. When I look for NOS parts, I look for the yellowed and dented box to go along with the part. Even better yet, a date stamp from the 80s or 90s, and a Made in USA branding somewhere. Then Im pretty comfortable that its an authentic old GM part.

As far as why things arent selling here, it may just be the time of the year. Relist them in May and you might run into somebody with the mod itch because the weather is better. Another possible reason may be the fact that there is only a handful of people here that care about originality at all and that might be why nobody is biting.
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I just sold a used 90-92 ECM with the AUJP broadcast code (not the most current code either) for $250. T-top center bars with minimal rust sell easily for around $65. (Scrap yards don't even charge for these if you buy other parts.) Uncracked tail lights sell for about $60 each. Radio pods without cracks sell for at least $80. Granted, these are used parts, but I would imagine NOS parts sell for much more. From my experience, people are buying and aren't cheap. You just have to know what is in demand and what is not. The more specialized parts take a lot longer to sell.

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This is not the classifieds board. Please take any sales threads there.
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My thoughts? I think Scott's edit made my day.
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Part of the problem I think is that the term NOS is overused. Especially on ebay. Most people on ebay dont understand that NOS means an Old part that is new, instead they have a new part, sometimes new GM restoration approved parts from China and call it NOS. When I look for NOS parts, I look for the yellowed and dented box to go along with the part. Even better yet, a date stamp from the 80s or 90s, and a Made in USA branding somewhere. Then Im pretty comfortable that its an authentic old GM part.

As far as why things arent selling here, it may just be the time of the year. Relist them in May and you might run into somebody with the mod itch because the weather is better. Another possible reason may be the fact that there is only a handful of people here that care about originality at all and that might be why nobody is biting.
My thoughts exactly and well said. I'am in no hurry to sell anything. The NOS parts I have belong on a full restoration or a very high quality driver.
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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This is not the classifieds board. Please take any sales threads there.
Thanks scott and I certainly didn't mean my original post to be an advertisement. Just trying to raise awareness of what NOS parts might mean to current and future thirdgen owners.

The terms 'NOS' and 'OEM' are often used and can be confusing.

Perhaps you can explain the differance.
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This guy again trying to sell parts in the history section. Your original post was deleted for a reason. Try ebay if you can not sell your parts.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:23 AM
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Outside of the obvious stuff, like body panels, NOS parts for these cars are still rather plentiful. Because they are scattered around it takes a little effort, but the prices usually are not what they were as they likely ended up in a shops inventory in a large deal and are gathering dust.
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Re: NOS Parts

Originally Posted by NCGuy68
Thanks scott and I certainly didn't mean my original post to be an advertisement. Just trying to raise awareness of what NOS parts might mean to current and future thirdgen owners.

The terms 'NOS' and 'OEM' are often used and can be confusing.

Perhaps you can explain the differance.
NOS - New Old Stock. It refers to stock parts from the parts bin that as old as the car but new, never used parts.

OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer - Refers to the parts being remade to original specs by possibly the original part manufacturer or another company.

I'm not sure why some parts are considered OEM when they don't appear correct. If they don't appear correct, then they aren't to the original manufacturer spec. They are similar though and I guess that's all that's required!
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This guy again trying to sell parts in the history section. Your original post was deleted for a reason. Try ebay if you can not sell your parts.
Sir,
Perhaps you didn't read my post very carefully. I explained the reason for my original post.

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Originally Posted by scottmoyer
NOS - New Old Stock. It refers to stock parts from the parts bin that as old as the car but new, never used parts.

OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer - Refers to the parts being remade to original specs by possibly the original part manufacturer or another company.

I'm not sure why some parts are considered OEM when they don't appear correct. If they don't appear correct, then they aren't to the original manufacturer spec. They are similar though and I guess that's all that's required!
Good explainations scott. I'll add that some repop manufacturers will say their part will 'fit and function as orginal', but doesn't look like the factory installed one. Thats when the NOS part shines - because it is what the factory installed.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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I looked at your posts, and the only items I saw were the wheel centers.

unless they are some special color or shading, I'm 99% sure those are easily available for much less in a very cool repo. also, very very few people are using the 15" wheels that those are designed for.

probably a couple reasons why your particular NOS parts haven't sold... supply and demand. isn't that always the case?

now.. throw out a NOS dash pad, NOS Chin spoiler, or something that is really hard to find, and you would have so many people flooding your inbox you couldn't keep up. (depending on price of course)
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Good explainations scott. I'll add that some repop manufacturers will say their part will 'fit and function as orginal', but doesn't look like the factory installed one. Thats when the NOS part shines - because it is what the factory installed.
That's not totally true. There are some decent repros out there. I have repro power window switches from PWD and they are a great repro.
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I looked at your posts, and the only items I saw were the wheel centers.

unless they are some special color or shading, I'm 99% sure those are easily available for much less in a very cool repo. also, very very few people are using the 15" wheels that those are designed for.

probably a couple reasons why your particular NOS parts haven't sold... supply and demand. isn't that always the case?

now.. throw out a NOS dash pad, NOS Chin spoiler, or something that is really hard to find, and you would have so many people flooding your inbox you couldn't keep up. (depending on price of course)
Yes, the only items I have posted so far are the wheel center cap inserts which are NOSand never been repoped. Your right, 15" factory wheels belong on a full restoration or a very nice driver.

Throw out a NOS dash pad you say?.. Yep, got one. GM # 12511119 in the original box. Need photos? - I have them. Camaro Central has the very same pad lited for $2000.00. Will anyone on this sight pay that?

Thirdgen cars will never be desirable nor collectable in value as long as many current owners just want cheap used parts to patch-up some chezzy car.
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I have a few NOS parts still in the original GM packaging. I bought them years ago for an 82 Z28 that I sold. I plan to offer them for sale sometime in the future.

I listed them in the 'for sale' section here and got zero replys. They have never been repoped that I know of and I priced them below what I paid for them from GM.

Many of the parts fit other year Camaros and a few Birds. So I'am wondering:

The economy is down and no one is interested.
Thirdgen owners don't know what NOS means.
Thirdgen owners are only looking for cheezy, used parts cheap.

Your thoughts..?
Originally Posted by NCGuy68
Yes, the only items I have posted so far are the wheel center cap inserts which are NOSand never been repoped. Your right, 15" factory wheels belong on a full restoration or a very nice driver.

Throw out a NOS dash pad you say?.. Yep, got one. GM # 12511119 in the original box. Need photos? - I have them. Camaro Central has the very same pad lited for $2000.00. Will anyone on this sight pay that?

Thirdgen cars will never be desirable nor collectable in value as long as many current owners just want cheap used parts to patch-up some chezzy car.
I'm confused. You first say that you are unable to get people to buy your NOS items. You admit that the only piece you have listed is one that would have a very limited market. Then you go on to say that you actually do have some of the stuff that is in high demand, yet you won't list those ones when they are the ones that people are actually looking for. Your thinly veiled attempt at drawing interest to the one item you have listed has been noticed. If you actually have desireable items, then list them in the classified section at whatever ridiculous price you desire. You never know when somebody might actually have the cash and is willing to pay for something. I know from experience. I've paid over $1400 on NOS parts to store as spare parts for my car simply because they are hard to find.

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I'm confused. You first say that you are unable to get people to buy your NOS items. You admit that the only piece you have listed is one that would have a very limited market. Then you go on to say that you actually do have some of the stuff that is in high demand, yet you won't list those ones when they are the ones that people are actually looking for. Your thinly veiled attempt at drawing interest to the one item you have listed has been noticed. If you actually have desireable items, then list them in the classified section at whatever ridiculous price you desire. You never know when somebody might actually have the cash and is willing to pay for something. I know from experience. I've paid over $1400 on NOS parts to store as spare parts for my car simply because they are hard to find.

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Nothing to be confused about Eldon. I listed a NOS set of 4 wheel center caps that have never been reproduced. BTW, the ad is still in the 'for sale' section and even reduceded the price - I got no replies. Nothing thinly veiled about that.

Per scott's direction, this is not the classified section so
I'll not mention anything else about specific parts.
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Eldon is right though. Someone will be willing to pay big bucks for sought after parts. I have had NOS parts for my car that I stored for years. I paid big bucks at a dealership for them before they were NOS. I wish I would have gotten more, because trying to find the stuff I didn't realize I needed has proven challenging. If I was you, I would put an ad in the parts section with all your stuff, with prices, and just be patient. Bump it up every now and then. FWIW I have seen sought after stuff sell on Ebay for ridiculous prices, so that might be your best bet. People get into bidding frenzies and wind up paying big money.
If you don't need the cash hold on to the stuff for later on when these cars are more sought after.
Either way - good luck.
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Thirdgen.org is not the place to sell, most people here wouldn't pay $2000 for their whole car.

Go to ebay, there are a few people willing to pay for NOS (I have $3k worth of NOS parts in the closet myself), but the truth is this website does not contain 99% of the people who actually are willing to pay NOS prices for NOS parts, so you'll have better luck elsewhere. Doesn't hurt to list parts in the classified section here, but don't expect to sell many but do expect to get a bunch of people who couldn't afford the parts to begin with to tell you that your reasonable prices are asinine.
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Thanks 82tarecaro and puma for your thoughtfull replies. You guys understand my original question about what NOS means.

As a long time Camaro owner of 1st, 3rd and 4th gen cars, I have dabbled in good used, repoped and NOS parts for many years..(Gezze, has it really been 42 years?) On this site, I have talked to a young man who inherited his father's 84 Z28 all the way to a current GM engineer who chased down some part numbers for me. In short, I know there are some true enthusiast here.

I want to offer the parts I have on thirdgen.org first because of the very large membership here. I can deal with the bitching about the prices if there is any - no problem.

I'am not fond of Epay because of the sellers fees. I'd rather pass that savings onto the buyer but it is an option. Only time will tell.

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A quick search of eBay will give you an idea of what similar items are selling for. You will find this set posted for $15 with zero bids
http://www.ebay.com/itm/82-90-Camaro...item19ce49917d
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in fariness, those aren't the same thing... his are designed to go with the brown cars. They have a gold/brown graduated color scheme, the ebay ones do not

I laugh at him implying that I don't understand what NOS means. I've been going to swap meets and dealerships with my dad since I was 8 years old looking for 58 impala parts. (hince my username) We have what is regarded to be the largest, most inclusive collection of NOS impala parts in the entire world. Literally thousands of parts, ranging from things as simple as points to engine blocks and NOS transmissions, and everything in between.

Despite the fact that he comes across as a know it all, I actually am looking forward to seeing him put some of his items in the classified section here.

He is wrong, ebay is a great place to sell parts. it just takes two people to get into a major bidding war, and soon your price skyrockets, which more than covers any sellers fees.

If I had a early Z28 that was brown, and I was restoring it to factory condition, I might be a buyer on those wheel centers he has, the price isn't that far out of line, but finding somebody that meets those conditions will be very difficult in the community. Ebay is a much wider pool of willing buyers.
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in fariness, those aren't the same thing... his are designed to go with the brown cars. They have a gold/brown graduated color scheme, the ebay ones do not

I laugh at him implying that I don't understand what NOS means. I've been going to swap meets and dealerships with my dad since I was 8 years old looking for 58 impala parts. (hince my username) We have what is regarded to be the largest, most inclusive collection of NOS impala parts in the entire world. Literally thousands of parts, ranging from things as simple as points to engine blocks and NOS transmissions, and everything in between.

Despite the fact that he comes across as a know it all, I actually am looking forward to seeing him put some of his items in the classified section here.

He is wrong, ebay is a great place to sell parts. it just takes two people to get into a major bidding war, and soon your price skyrockets, which more than covers any sellers fees.

If I had a early Z28 that was brown, and I was restoring it to factory condition, I might be a buyer on those wheel centers he has, the price isn't that far out of line, but finding somebody that meets those conditions will be very difficult in the community. Ebay is a much wider pool of willing buyers.
Look triple silver to me. He even describes them as such:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...0-post153.html
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maybe you're right... in the pic they look gold
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Originally Posted by two-if-by-sea
A quick search of eBay will give you an idea of what similar items are selling for. You will find this set posted for $15 with zero bids
http://www.ebay.com/itm/82-90-Camaro...item19ce49917d
Seller claims they are "new". If so, new what?.. Are they Repops?.. If original GM, what part number are they?.. Why aren't they in the original GM packaging if NOS?.. The photos are poor quality.

Just another example of the 'Crap' offered on Epay.
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Not all repos are crap. Anybody that says they are is probably trying to sell you something


Oh.. wait.....
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Originally Posted by two-if-by-sea
Look triple silver to me. He even describes them as such:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...0-post153.html
Thank you two-if-by-sea. I provided an accurate description and very clear pics of the wheel center caps I offered for sale. Yes, even the GM part number which few others do.

I'am certainly not a know-it-all as some have said, but I'am always willing to learn and share the info with other true Camaro enthusiast.
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In short, I know there are some true enthusiast here...I want to offer the parts I have on thirdgen.org first because of the very large membership here.
I consider myself amongst those enthusiasts you metioned. I do appreciate you listing parts on here first. I do the same thing. I would be really interested in hearing what NOS parts you may be hoarding.

Originally Posted by puma1552
Thirdgen.org is not the place to sell, most people here wouldn't pay $2000 for their whole car.
I disagree. There are people on this site who do and can afford true NOS pieces. I spent nearly a grand in the last month on NOS '91-92 GTA taillights and NOS front GFX for the same car. The vast majority of the people on this site may not be able to afford, or simply don't care enough, NOS parts. But there are some floating around here.

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I consider myself amongst those enthusiasts you metioned. I do appreciate you listing parts on here first. I do the same thing. I would be really interested in hearing what NOS parts you may be hoarding.-Eldon
Send me a PM Eldon, I'll be happy to list the NOS parts I have.
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in fariness, those aren't the same thing... his are designed to go with the brown cars. They have a gold/brown graduated color scheme, the ebay ones do not.
The NOS wheel center cap inserts I have are not designed for brown cars only. They were installed on any color Z28 with 15" aluminum wheels.
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Thirdgen.org is not the place to sell, most people here wouldn't pay $2000 for their whole car.

Go to ebay, there are a few people willing to pay for NOS (I have $3k worth of NOS parts in the closet myself), but the truth is this website does not contain 99% of the people who actually are willing to pay NOS prices for NOS parts, so you'll have better luck elsewhere. Doesn't hurt to list parts in the classified section here, but don't expect to sell many but do expect to get a bunch of people who couldn't afford the parts to begin with to tell you that your reasonable prices are asinine.

Agree 110%. When I was selling my 91 RS last April, I figured it would not sell through here, and sure enough I was right After receiving a few PMs from people bitching my $7,995 asking price was too high, I sold it on camaroz28.com (a FOURTH GEN site, even) for $7,750 in less than 2 weeks.

Go figure...
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Re: NOS Parts

Originally Posted by Jason E
Agree 110%. When I was selling my 91 RS last April, I figured it would not sell through here, and sure enough I was right After receiving a few PMs from people bitching my $7,995 asking price was too high, I sold it on camaroz28.com (a FOURTH GEN site, even) for $7,750 in less than 2 weeks.

Go figure...
Good advice and I'll note that Jason - Thanks. As I've mentioned, I know there are true enthusiast here but they seem to be few and far between. Seems they lurk in the backgound and prefer to remain anonymous.

What can we, as a community, do to encourage someone who is interested in preserving/restorating a 3rdgen to become more active on these forums?

Your thoughts Gents...
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Re: NOS Parts

Originally Posted by NCGuy68
Good advice and I'll note that Jason - Thanks. As I've mentioned, I know there are true enthusiast here but they seem to be few and far between. Seems they lurk in the backgound and prefer to remain anonymous.

What can we, as a community, do to encourage someone who is interested in preserving/restorating a 3rdgen to become more active on these forums?

Your thoughts Gents...

The only thing that I can think of is, lead by example.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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You mean for a guy who is admonishing us to restore cars using only NOS third gen parts to actually own a third gen himself?

Sounds to me like he's just trying to create a market for his parts
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