Slick71ss

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Just got my reproduction window sticker. Can you guys point out any possible mistakes?

One thing that doesn't seem right is the AR9 description. My car does not have leather seats! The dealer invoice shows "AR9 FRR2 RED BUCKET". How should it read on the window sticker?

mantaguy

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AR9 : SEAT, FRT BKT, EUROPEAN STYLE, PASS A DRIVER RECL
They may have been switched over!!!!

mantaguy

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Do have the 6 way power seat???

Slick71ss

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Yes, the car has it and is listed under the 1SC Iroc package.

Car still has original seats. (27k original mile car) AR9 can come in either cloth or leather from what I understand.

mantaguy

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I've herd that sometimes these window stickers aren't always accurate as they should be,but maybe in your case the seats were switched over !!!! Are you the original owner???

Slick71ss

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I'm not the original owner. What I'm saying is AR9 by itself does not designate leather seats. The guy who made the repro window sticker made a mistake. The original dealer invoice says "AR9 FRR2 RED BUCKET". RPO "AR9" was used before the 1987 model year when leather wasn't even an option.

mantaguy

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I see what your saying,on my window sticker,it does't say what color the sears are,but it does say that they are cloth.Maybe the guy did make a mistake!!!Is your RPO sticker still in your car?? if so check it !!

Slick71ss

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Yes, have decoded my RPO sticker below. Does show cloth Carmine interior. Here's a pic of my seats. I think I read that they are a 1987 only style?




RPO CODES....

AC3: ADJUSTER, FRT ST, POWER, 6 WAY, BKT, DRIVER
AG9: ADJUSTER, SEAT, POWER, 6 WAY
AM9: SEAT, RR, SPLIT, BACK, FLDG
AR9: SEAT, FRT BKT, EUROPEAN STYLE, PASS A DRIVER RECL
AU3: LOCK CONTROL, SIDE DR, ELEC
A01: WINDOW, TINTED, ALL SHADED, W/S
A31: WINDOW, POWER OPERATED, SIDE
A90: LOCK CONTROL, RR COMPT LID, REM CONT ELEC RELEASE
B18: ORNAMENTATION, INTR, DELUX
B2L: PERFORMANCE PACKAGE & ENGINE PACKAGE V8 5.7LPFI
B34: COVERING, FRT FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
B35: COVERING, REAR, FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
B4Z: IROC PACKAGE
B84: ORNAMENTATION, EXTR MLDG, B0DY SIDE
B91: ORNAMENTATION, EXTR MLDG DR EDGE GUARD, COLORED
B94: FENDER EMBLEM, Z28
B97: ORNAMENTATION, EXTR MLDG, LOWER ACCENT
CD4: WIPER SYSTEM WINDSHIELD, PULSE
C49: DEFOGGER, RR WINDOW, ELECTRIC
C60: HVAC SYSTEM, AIR CONDITIONER FRT MAN CONTROLS
DD8: MIRROR I/S, R/V, LT SENSITIVE
DG7: MIRROR 0/S, LH & RH, REM CONT, ELEC, PAINTED
DK6: CONSOLE ROOF, INTERIOR
D08: PAINT, HIGH GLOSS FINISH
D34: MIRROR, VISOR VANITY
D42: SHADE, RR COMPT SECURITY
D6M: GEAR, SPEEDO DRIVEN
D80: SPOILER, RR END PNL
D88: DECAL, STRIPE, SPORT
E5Z: SPEEDOMETER ADAPTER (DELETE)
E7Z : SENSOR, VEHICLE SPEED (DELETE)
E9Z: SPEEDOMETER KEY (DELETE)
FE2: SUSPENSION SYSTEM, RIDE HANDLING
GW6: AXLE REAR, 3.27 RATIO
G80: AXLE POSITRACTION, LIMITED SLIP
J65: BRAKE SYSTEM, PWR, FRT & RR DISC
KC4: COOLING SYSTEM, ENG OIL
K34: CRUISE CONTROL, AUT0MATIC, ELECTRONIC
K68: GENERATOR,105 AMP
L98: 5.7 LITER V8 TPI ENGINE
MD8: TRANSMISSION, AUTO 4 SPD, THM 700 R4
MXO: MERCHANDISED, TRANS, AUTO PROVISIONS, O/D
NA5: EMISSION SYSTEM, FEDERAL, TIER O
NOD : ASSEMBLY PLANT, NORWOOD, OHIO
NP5: LEATHER WRAPPED, STEERING WHEEL AND SHIFT ****
N33: STEERING COLUMN, TILT TYPE
N65: WHEEL & TIRE,SPARE, SPACE SAVER, STEEL
N96: WHEEL, 16 X 8, CAST ALUMINUM
PB4: LOCK CONTROL, WHEEL
P20: HUBCAPS, WHEEL, STYLED
QDZ: TIRE ALL, P245/50VR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HW4
TR9: LAMP, GROUP
TT4: HEADLAMPS, HALOGEN, 4
T93: TAIL & STOP LAMP, SMOKED
T96: LAMP, FOG
UQ1: RADIO PROVISIONS, FOR STEREO
UX1: RADIO, AM/FM STEREO CASSETTE EQUALIZER
U21: CLUSTER, INST, OIL, COOL TEMP, VOLTS, TACH
U25: LAMP, INTR, RR COMPT, COURTESY
U26: LAMP, INTR, ENG COMPT, COURTESY
U29: LAMP, INTR I/P, COURTESY
U79: SPEAKER SYSTEM, 4, DUAL FRT COAX, DUAL EXT RGE PKG
V73: ANTENNA, FIXED
YR1: SEAT,FRT CUSTOM
YS1: SEAT,RR CUST
YT1: BUILD UP DR & QTR
YT9: OPTION PACKAGE, FISHER FURNISHED PARTS
Z28: MERCHANDISED PKG, SPECIAL PERFORMANCE
1AY: STOCK ORDERS PROCESSING OPTION (DEALER ORDERED CAR)
1HV: COMPONENTS OF IROC PACKAGE
1SC: PACKAGE, OPTION 03
6ZX: SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, LEFT HAND
7ZX: SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, RIGHT HAND
72C: TRIM COMBINATION, CLOTH, DK CARMINE (C)
72I: INTERIOR TRIM, DK CARMINE (91)
729: SEAT BELT COLOR, DK CARMINE (9) (91)
74Q: MOLDING COLOR, FLAME RED MET (91)
74U: PRIMARY COLOR, EXTERIOR, VICTORY RED (91)
8NL: SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, RIGHT HAND
88A: STRIPE COLOR, ACCENT, TWO TONE, GOLD/BLACK (91)
9NL: COMPUTER SELECTED REAR RIGHTHAND SPRING
92P: WHEEL COLOR GOLD

Slick71ss

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OK, got the seat issue cleared up!

The leather seat option would be listed as AR9 AQQ2 Gray Custom Leather Bucket $750.00

Mine should be AR9 FRR2 Red Custom Cloth Bucket $277.00


Next Issue... I think the order in which the options are listed is wrong. The "1SC" Iroc package should be listed after "Z28" and before "74U".

Motown

Its issues like this that make me weary about buying one of these...

Question for you Slick71ss,

How did you go about getting the guy your payment info? Am I supposed to print off that email form he gave me and fill that out and mail it? I wanted to pay with a credit card...

mantaguy

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My RPO sticker does say what color the seats are


Beautiful Interior you have Slick
Sorry about that!!

mantaguy

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So slick,the guy did make a mistake,will he redo the window sticker?

Slick71ss

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You can mail it in or email the filled out form back to him. I filled it out and emailed it back. Haven't seen any suspicious charges on my card yet.

We'll see if he corrects the mistakes for me without a hassle. He said to contact him if there was a problem.

mantaguy

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Did you go through GM Archives for that info???I have a Pontiac and I had to go to PHS (Pontiac Historical Service) for mine.

Slick71ss

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Dealer invoice... http://www.gmmediaarchive.com/
Window sticker... http://www.window-sticker.com/

mantaguy

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They seem to be reputable,I guess you'll see,if they change your W/Stiker without a hassle.

yo soy el warg

I have had extreme problems with them getting the window sticker right. Every time I even told them how to correct the mistakes on my reproductions they couldn't get it right. After the third time on a couple of these window stickers they tried to make for me they wouldn't respond to my e-mails and didn't correct them. I kept the e-mails. I even talked to them on the phone and they eventually hung up on me. Good luck! If you don't have a mistake it is O.K. but if you want corrections made on your window sticker forget about it. They are lousy at correcting things! I don't see how GM lets them get away with it since they are the only ones authorized to make them. You can't get them anywhere else as far as I know. They have no competition, so they can give you any kind of service they want. I think they are the only ones licensed by GM to make them.
Please let us know what they do about your mistakes. Maybe things have changed since I last ordered one, but I doubt it! They never corrected their mistakes to my satisfaction the last time I did business with them.
If anyone knows of another company licensed to make them let us know who they are.

Slick71ss

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I'll post what happens.

Slick71ss

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This is the email and photo I sent them. Will report if they send me a replacement that has the changes I requested. I tried to be clear on what needs to be changed.

Slick71ss

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Already got an email saying he corrected the mistakes and is sending it out.

yo soy el warg

I was just looking at the Camaro White Book on page 108 and 109. If you ordered the 1SC option #3 for IROCs and you had the RPO D42 which is the cover for the rear cargo area the cost is listed as $3,273.00. Which is what was ordered on your car according to the RPO list you posted.

If you ordered the same 1SC option #3 for IROCs and didn't order the one with RPO D42 cover for the rear cargo area the price for that particular option would be $3,204.00 This is $69.00 less for ordering the 1SC option #3 without the RPO D42 cover.

The list of options for your 1CS IROC option package #3 should have the D42 cover listed on it since you have the higher priced 1CS option#3 which included the D42 option. It looks like they printed the 1CS option list that didn't have D42 on your reproduction window sticker. This might be an error.

Does anyone have a GM original 1987 window sticker from an IROC with the 1SC option #3 with the higher priced $3,273.00 D42 option on it to compare with the reproduction one? You would think that it should have a different list of options since they are two separate packages at two separate prices?

Or GM might have used the same option list for both packages and left the D42 off on the higher priced one by mistake. The only way to know for sure is to see an original window sticker with the D42 option on it in 1987 and one without it as a comparison.

just found this https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...ckers-now.html

Slick71ss

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Good catch.

I looked into the price difference but it didn't dawn on me that it should be listed on there.

I can see that "rear compartment cargo cover" is listed on this one from Ebay(last line left column)...



I added the picture to the TGO database for future reference. Not sure who owned the imageshack account it was linked from. Scott

mantaguy

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That window sticker in the pic,is that from Ebay????

Slick71ss

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I stole the pic from an Ebay auction of an 1987 Iroc.

mantaguy

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Oh,I was wondering why someone would buy a W/Sticker off Ebay!!!

scottmoyer

I finally responded to your PM. Any other questions, let me know. I've not been online for a few days.

yo soy el warg

I had some extra time this morning so I looked at Scott's original window sticker and the one you found. Here are 10 more mistakes.

1. At the top after model: there should only be one space not 3-4 as in the reproduction.

2. There should be 3-4 spaces after Vehicle ID is listed not just one as the reproduction.

3. Five Speed should not have a hyphen between Five-Speed as in the reproduction

4. There is no 8 digit number under the Vin.# as all the original window stickers have.

5. They forgot to list the city where it says delivered to dealer, its probably Southgate.

6. At "body-colored" soft front & rear "FASCIA" the wrong spelling is used on the reproduction, there is no "S" in the spelling on the original ones. It can be spelled both ways as "FASCIA or FACIA" back then they spelled it facia.

7. Items in the 1st options list is about 2 spaces too far to the left.

8. The middle column with "no charge" is one space too far to the left.

9. Third column is too far to the left it needs to be moved a couple spaces to the right.

10. The final 8 digit number at the bottom right before F8A is missing just like at the top below the Vin.# This number should be the same as at the top on the original window stickers.

If I kept looking there are probably more mistakes that would turn up. See if they will change the ones above that I have listed. They did say reproduction. They also said they would make corrections if you brought it to their attention. If they can't get the spacing to look original they should at least not leave off cities and numbers related to the production and correct spellings back in 1987.
Once again, good luck getting them to address the corrections to make it look like the original window sticker. I couldn't!
There is nothing quite like the original!

Slick71ss

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Already got the corrected one. He did fix everything I pointed out. Now have to decide if I want to try to get all the other things straightened out. I do have to say that they have been very willing to work things out so far.



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Jason E

When I ordered 4 of them from him at once, 2 were screwed up. My IROC had a 2.8 V6 listed as base equipment, and he had the automatic EPA ratings for my 6 speed Z28. He agreed to fix the IROC with no issue, but made the comment to me that he would only fix the Z28 problem "because I have to send another one out anyway. I don't normally fix EPA fuel economy issues."

My response? "For $50 a pop I would expect to be getting perfect ones no matter how many have errors. Period." I got both fixed, within a few days.

So he fixed them, but he's kinda bitchy

Slick71ss

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Any one know what this number represents or if it's even possible to know what it should be?

yo soy el warg

That same number at the top right just under the VIN# is also the same number at the bottom. I don't know what it is for either. I'd also like to know what it represents.

4.) There is no 8 digit number under the Vin.# as all the original window stickers have.

10.) The final 8 digit number at the bottom right before F8A is missing just like at the top below the Vin.# This number should be the same as at the top on the original window stickers.

scottmoyer

I found that same number on my buildsheet. I can't remember what is designates right this second, but I know it was discussed here before. I need to look at the number again and I can tell you what it represents, but dinner's ready so I gotta run!!

Slick71ss

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Thanks Scott! No hurry though. Whenever you got the spare time.

scottmoyer

Ok, I got it. That number matches the stamp plate on the radiator support. My car has the plate on the left side of the air cleaners and is marked "08 3437". The buildsheet and window sticker are marked with "A0083437"

Slick71ss

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Thank you very much!

mantaguy

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Just curious!!!,what does the 44-156 HW4972 under your vin no. designate??????

Slick71ss

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No clue, maybe Scott knows that as well.

Slick71ss

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Looking at the car's dealer invoice, HW4972 is the order number. 44-156 is the dealer code or number.

yo soy el warg

Thanks to everybody for the new information about Camaros that I never knew.

Now that you've got all the corrections to make your window sticker as close to original as possible, it will be interesting to see if they correct them for you.

Like I said before that after they tried twice to fix mine they hung up on me when I called them and would never respond to my e-mails.

Good Luck

mantaguy

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Thanks,that clears up some nos.Theirs an awful lot of nos.& codes.

scottmoyer

Slick71ss

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Finally got to my car today(in storage). I don't have a number stamped in that location. Maybe because my car was built at the Norwood plant? Any idea where else to look for it?

scottmoyer

I looked at some of the windowstickers I have in my collection for Norwood cars and I found that not all of them have that number so you might be good.

Slick71ss

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Thanks Scott. That window sticker is a little different than all the others I have seen. Main thing being it doesn't seem to list the options in a similar order as the others.

scottmoyer

I wouldn't worry too much about the option order as I have a few other 87 window stickers and they list the options similar to mine. I don't believe that there will be much scrutiny of these window stickers in the future as long as they match this one above or mine. The majority of the ones I've seen from Norwood match the Van Nuys style mine has.

upon further digging, it looks like the stickers that match my format, are all higher VIN'd cars. The sticker I show above has a low number. With your VIN being higher, than you should be good with your current format.

Gumby40

Here is my sons original

mantaguy

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Can you make that a little larger,cant see it!!!

Gumby40

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8cac6f0d.jpg

Gumby40

Try that, if ya need anything else let me know because his Grandfather kept has everything the car came with.

Gumby40

well Ive been trying to make it bigger.bth_windowsticker_zps8cac6f0d.jpg?t=1357681542