HVAC lighting
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HVAC lighting
My 88 IROC has horrible lighting on the hvac controls. How many bulbs are back there? Upgrade ideas...if any? thanks
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From: Oyth
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Super White LED lamp(wide angle).BTW firebird Hvac use 3 tiny(#74) lamps.They are also slightly taller & shorter than camaro Hvacs.
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The Camaro uses one 194 bulb (pass side of the HAVC head). A higher intensity 194 will help, but not as substantally as we'd like.
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From: Oyth
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If you want high intensity try xenon bulbs.Forwarned though they can/may melt your sockets.Believe i know ive tried it.The are VERY bright though, but get EXTREMELY hot.Ive seen some at walmart though that are lower wattage then the ones i bought on ebay & they are xenon, but i dont have any first had experience with them.If that is not a alternate route.You can try a nine LED lamp(see pic), but you may have to enlarge the opening or the lamp may be too long.Ive got one of these in my OH console map light,very bright!
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Mine are Xenon. I haven't experienced any problems with them whatsoever; however, I don't drive all that much at night either.
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I lined the lamp cavity with aluminum roofing tape(also did the same with the instrument cluster).It's made a big difference in the amount and quality of light with the cluster.The lighting in the HVAC contol head is better but I think I'll try one of the Xenon bulbs in there.
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Here's an old link that may be helpful (check the end for some bulb info):
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...r-cluster.html
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...r-cluster.html
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i use xenon bulbs in my hvac, tranny temp, and shifter plate, and they light up a little better than stock.
i used to have them in my cluster also, but i guess i had bad luck as they slowly burnt out, one by one, until i had 3 left. I then swapped in some plain jain 194's.
....I do drive around w/ my parking lights on though, so that's probably part of the reason i had premature death of my xenon bulbs.
look online too, i got mine for about a dollar a piece, beats paying more than twice that at walmart.
i used to have them in my cluster also, but i guess i had bad luck as they slowly burnt out, one by one, until i had 3 left. I then swapped in some plain jain 194's.
....I do drive around w/ my parking lights on though, so that's probably part of the reason i had premature death of my xenon bulbs.
look online too, i got mine for about a dollar a piece, beats paying more than twice that at walmart.
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I need to get a few new bulbs for my hvac and my shifter plate... I didn't even know they made xenon 194s... Are they really worth the extra money?
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Another draw back to the higher wattage xenons is they may overload your headlamp switch.If your going to buy get them a cheap as possible.Try ebay!I taped aluminum foil to the back of the metal gauge bezel.
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that looks really sweet 84, just foil and a xenon?
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No, no xenons anymore too much heat.They warped some of my sockets & partially melted others.All my interior light are LEDs.Only the warning lights,the 2 turn signals(arrows) & hi-beam indicator are standard 194 bulbs.Since those are seldom in use.The foil is used on the black metal trim bezel that surrounds the gauges.
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Has anyone swapped to the 4th gen controls??????? Would like to hear about the swap...Thanks, Tom
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No, no xenons anymore too much heat.They warped some of my sockets & partially melted others.All my interior light are LEDs.Only the warning lights,the 2 turn signals(arrows) & hi-beam indicator are standard 194 bulbs.Since those are seldom in use.The foil is used on the black metal trim bezel that surrounds the gauges.
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I ended up going to walmart and bought GE "Nighthawk" bulbs which claim to put out 20% more light than standard 194's. I wrapped the inside "socket" where the bulb sits with foil and can honestly say there is a difference. Why GM didnt put another bulb over by the fan speed switch...
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Re: HVAC lighting
Aren't the 194's too big for the HVAC and shifter plate?
Any one know the LED #s for the trunk light, (3?) HVAC lights, the light above the HVAC, and the light in the center console?
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