ok i originally painted my int pieces black but after putting them back in they kinda scratched off, so i took all the pieces out now, im going to clean them up and paint again but does anyone have any suggestions for paint? Im pretty sure i used a plastics paint last time but this time im going to put more coats and a satin clear to protect it...

 

I'm using krylon plastic fusion, satin black. Satin black isn't too glossy. I'm only putting on one coat because if there is too much paint on the surface, I think it just builds up on the surface and causes it to rub off easier. I just don't recommend putting on too much paint. Maybe, maybe put on a coat of clear.

 

ok thanks for the insight.

 

With interior plastis it's tough because they aren't suited for painting due to a lack of porosity. But it can be done. Start out by roughing them a little bit with a light grade steel wool or pad. Place them in an area where you will be doing the painting. Then wipe them down with a paint prep for plastics (prep-eze) once you wipe them down DO NOT touch them again with your bare hands as the oil in your skins will be where the paint won't stick. Next utilize a flexible primer/adhesion promotor - dry this with a hair dryer for a few minutes on each panel. Make sure that your top coat is stated as an "interior trim" paint that will keep you from choosing the wrong formulation of paint. You want to do it in several light coats with time in between for the coats to dry. That is usually fine to stop at that point but I usually go one step further and use a semi gloss or matte style clear coat to top it all off. It ain't easy but it can be done - good luck BTW you can get all of these products at most local chain store automotive shops

 

i dont reccomend painting plastics at all, it looks like crap and will eventually come off and it stinks

 

i disagree my autobody teacher used sem platic dye/paint and it came out great and when dry doesnt smell like anything. it has also yet to chip or peel. if you prep your parts right then it will be fine.

 

thats your opinion you want to send me money to get all black plastics? No

bntyhntr00, seems like a long process but it sounds like it would work great

thanks

 

its not opinion its fact, those types of plastics were dyed a certain color for a reason, there not meant to be painted, adhesion issues, usually the paint youll use has high voc, point made.

 

the first ones came out fine, just needed another coat, are you saying i could dye them black then?

 

get some sem PLASTIC dye like i stated above and prep it like bntyhntr00 said and you will have no problems. im not trying to start a flame was but im pretty sure my autobody teacher wouldnt have done this to his personal truck if it would have been a bad idea. he has been doing body work for over 40 years, i would think that he knows what he is doing by now.

 

prep by roughing it up, prep, primer, where can i get the dye?

 

Napa, any parts store should have it. Ask for bumper paint and interior paints. It'll be in that aisle. It should say "carpet dye / interior paneling dye". You can use it for either. The point is that it's a dye that's supposed to soak into the material, and not a paint that just sits on top.
I used that dye, and it rubbed off from the door rubbing it. I need to fix my door pins, then i'll try the adhesion promoter as well and try again.

 

Since the paint is already coming off your panels, unless you completely strip off the old paint, you'll never get good results with your current panels. I'd suggest buying another set of used panels. If you can't afford a nice set of black panels, pick up a set in a different color for a lot less money, then paint those. Follow bntyhntr00's instructions and use SEM Landau black (and don't bother with clearcoat), and you'll get very good results. If you do it right, painted panels will be plenty durable.

 

great info, well i just quit my job , so im not really sure what im going to do...But you said use SEm...black then said painted panels? Isnt the SEM a dye? I could be mistaken. Ill check the junkyard when i have time mayb they'll have some.

 

Dye, paint, whatever. It comes in a spray can and you spray it just like paint. In my not-very-important opinion, a die is something that soaks into the material, changing it's color. Paint is something that goes on top. Regardless of what the real terminology is, the SEM and every other plastic dye or paint adheres to the surface of the plastic. But as long as you get good adhesion, there's nothing wrong with that.

 

ok thanks for the info!

 

I do have to disagree with you based on the fact that I have done this numerous times on a variety of different cars some of which run the show cicuits - case in point: trying to get a complete hugger orange interior to match on a first gen - with the differentiation in vendors, dye lots etc the only option is to dye/paint the interior to match. I have cars that I did up to 5 years ago that are still showing no signs of wear. It is all in the prep work and it's not easy but it can be done with great success

 

How does the SEM dye compare to the factory black pannels?

 

I used the SEM Graphite on all my interior plastics, came out really nice. I also used the sand free, to help promote adhesion.

 

damn that looks really good, i just did a few more panels today with the krylon, ill stop at the junk yard tomorow see if they have some black panels.

 

What if the plastics were blue or red and you wanted to paint/dye them light grey. Is that a possibility?

This SEM paint, I checked the website and I couldn't find a color guide and I was a little confused on what product I should be looking for can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

Here is a color chart
http://www.msitrt.com/SEMchart.htm

What I used was the Sand Free, and then the SEM color coat.

I think they sell some other products to help prep the plastics (cleaners ect) but I didn't want to spend that much on it.

 

I used the fusion on mine, worked out great, here is a pic

 

I agree, it's all in the prep work and taking time and not being in a hurry.

 

Buy the right color plastics and do it "right" the first time.




There comes a time when the benefits do not outwiegh the risks. I can pick out EVERY painted/dyed interior piece that I find in the local boneyards. Sure; It looks great now - wait till it gets scratched or something rubs on it for awhile. Dying parts in a show car is one thing - it will never get touched once it's installed !! In a car that gets driven and used you should not waste a rediculous amount of time and effort to change the factory color of interior plastics. In the amount of time it will take you to make do the Dye job "right" you could have easily put in a few hours of overtime and bought the "right" parts.

I am not completely knocking this process - I used fabric dye to re-dye my seats and carpet only a week ago. But they are not plastic pieces and I will not have a problem doing it again in a few years when it fades again......




But this is fabric and not plastic. Prep time = vacuum ( 2 min ) wash (3 min ) dry ( 24 hours ), and dye (10 min ). Working time is about 15 minutes. You MIGHT be able to correctly prep / dye a single plastic piece in that time...... only to watch that work wasted as soon as it's scratched.

Again; my

 

Rough it up, primer it, and use regular auto body paint. Worked for mine.

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This power seat trim was grey this morning. It was only prepped by cleaning it with water - letting it dry, Then Ceaning it with CASTROL SUper Clean to remove the "peach fuzz". Then letting it dry. Then it was washed with water again and allowed to dry. I "Painted " it with Fabric / Vynal dye that's about $6 a can. Looks pretty good right !?!?!




Well here's what happens when you touch it with your fingernail......




I'm sure this "dye" is suppoed to penitrate the plastic - but it doesn't ever seem to work. Parts painted with this stuff will look great,........ until something rubs up on them. I understand that my Prep work for this procces was minimal; but if you try to "rough up " the plastic it looks bad once it's done. I also didn't think spraying primer first was a good idea since I wanted the dye to "soak" into the part.

If you plan to keep and use the car - buy the parts in the correct color !!

 

I did mine. The car sits 95% of the time. I painted mine and was happy. If I drove it more story might be different.

 

John the only thing that I can say is that by your own admission your prep work was minimal as with anything like this the prep work time wil take at least 3-4 times longer than the top coat time. And believe me if I had not done this numerous times I would not recommend it. It is a huge PITA but when circumstances dictate it is possible but it is a PITA - can you see the theme I'm working with here PITA but can be done well PITA but can be a lot more stable then as to scratch or chip if you look at a lot of the newer vehicle interiors you come to find out that a great deal of them are sprayed over a black base due to the cost savings it allows the manufacturers so with that being said it can be done but it is a PITA LOL. if you are ever in the process of respraying your interior and you think to yourself "this isnt that bad" stop where you are, you are not doing it correctly..............lol

 

PITA


I was the whole time I was reading that post !!!!! All the PITAs I was reading abot was making me hungry !!





By I interpret that to mean time and money. For me - at this point in my camaro "career" I would spend the $$ and save the time/effort for the desired result !!!

 

I painted my shifter plate cause it was all faded, But I used Dupli.Color Acrylic Enamel and it turned out good looks glossy and original. Its been painted for 2 months and its not coming off and still looks good.