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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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headliner

i just ripped out my headliner because it was falling apart... anybody know a good place to get another one that i don't have to do very much modifications to? my freind has a parts catalog from 67 to the 4th gen camaros.. would that be my best bet to go to?
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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is hawks a good place to get them?
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Re: headliner

I just bought one and installed it today from Classic Industries. It turned out very nice. Get what you pay for.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Re: headliner

sweet thanks i'll probably go with that then.. how much did it cost you?

and if anybody wants the link to buy there catalog heres one

http://automotivecatalogsource.com/s...products_id=54
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Re: headliner

well i found the official site for the order catalog for the 1967 through the 2002 camaro parts

you can even order online instead of buying the catalog. its a really nice site

only thing i don't like is they don't have the black headliner kits

and the kits include the head liner sun visors and speaker cover panels for only $150 so its really cheap don't know the shipping cost though

http://www.classicindustries.tv/
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Re: headliner

I purchased a black head liner w/ abs backing and it was like 180 + 50 for shipping (i think thats how much the shipping was).
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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were did you get yours whitsroc?
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Classic Industries. They have a web site you can buy from.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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I can get you the part number if you would like, i have their camaro book
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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is it the kit of just the headliner?
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Re: headliner

I purchased the ABS Plastic headliner with black cloth covering. Part number afh12c1559 for t-tops. There is also a headliner material kit that does not include the ABS, sail panel, and sun visor fabric. The black part number for that is 829201. Both are from Classic. ABS headliner w/ cloth is $180 and the material kit is $150. Depends on what you have to work with as far as your headliner backing is concerned. Mine had gotten wet and started to separate so I had to buy the ABS plastic w/ cloth covering. If you do not have t-tops you need afh19c1559 for ABS headliner w/ cloth (not t-tops) @ $180. Hope this helps
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Re: headliner

yea it does i threw all the headliner away it was falling apart... so its just bare metal for my roof lol so i need the whole kit...

and did you have to modify anything with your abs headliner?

does it come with clips at all?

and for the little panel thing over the door/window i need clips for those know were i can get them?
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Re: headliner

Do you have t tops or not? I have t's and with the t-tops you do not need any clips. There were 2 clips on the front of the old headliner which can be thrown away. The ABS is stiff enough to hold in place with out them. If you talking about the A pillar that and B pillar (where the t-top locks into), im not sure where to get the clips. My A pillars dont have clips anymore (someone at some point lost them) but they fit in and stay just fine with out them. There is no modification required for the ABS kit. Just unbolt your a/b pillar, sail panels, rear glass trim, sun visors, and the dome light. Old one pulls down, new one pops up. Easy as that.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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Re: headliner

O yeah, and the seat belt clip that goes into the headliner... that has to be removed also.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Re: headliner

yea the sail panel... and no mines a hard top the sail panel sags down... and i need the clips for it again to be put back to place.. and my dome light it looks like sombody just used a damn rivet gun thing to hold that back up? theres no screws holding it up wdf?
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Re: headliner

When I replaced my headliner the dome light had a few clips in it (they do look like rivets) but if you break the circular washers your dome light should come out. At least that is what I did then you can buy replacement ones at any car part store.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Re: headliner

I dont know where to get sail panel clips either, but you can buy new sail panels. You should in fact buy them along with sun visors if you replace the headliner so that the color and fabric all match perfectly. The dome light can be purchased but im not sure how you can attach it if the posts are missing.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Re: headliner

Take needle nose pliers and grab hold of the round clips and turn them back and forth with downward pressure and they will walk right off. Dont need to break them that way.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Re: headliner

ok i don't know what the things are called... its the trim thats inside the car.. i think you said it it was the a pillars or b... that have the black covering to them... and there clips that hold them in
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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I would try ebay for clips if thats what your looking for. I have not seen them in the reproduction books. Not for third gen anyway.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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hmm alright i think i will wait and buy them when my headliner come in
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Re: headliner

So the Abs headliner is just one big cloth covered plastic piece? i just pulled my headliner down and am thinking of going that route.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Re: headliner

Yes, the ABS is just a plastic piece with the cloth attached to it. They are held in place with the Sail Panels, Rear Trim Piece, dome light, and the A pillars; so no clips are needed. As far as the clips for the A & B pillars, these are what I bought and they are perfect: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-CA...Q5fAccessories
Just make sure the clips are warm (room temperature) or they will break when you install them. I made the mistake of trying it when I'd left them in the car and it was only 30 degrees so I broke 3 of them.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Re: headliner

The new ABS board is allot more sturdy too.It's now flimsy like the origional board ones were.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Re: headliner

Originally Posted by whitsroc
Mine had gotten wet and started to separate so I had to buy the ABS plastic w/ cloth covering.
Just out of curiousity how did your headliner get all wet (to the point it was starting to separate)? Do your T-Tops leak?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Re: headliner

They did in the past for sure. Some one had replaced them at one time and I am in the process of replacing them again right now. Also, I have been told that it is easy to get stuck out in a rain storm with the tops off and that raises hell with the liner.... dunno.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Re: headliner

anyone attempted to recover the liner them selves?
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Re: headliner

I got my UPC headliner and plush carpet from Stock Interiors, really satisfied, great service.


http://www.stockinteriors.com/
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Re: headliner

does anyone know if the Z28 dome light with the map light/flashlight/storage pouch will work with the abs headliner from classic? Thanks
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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Re: headliner

I had a new headliner installed in my 1992 Z today at the trim shop. He did the sail panels and visors also for $150.00 total. My car is a hardtop and the board was in excellent shape.
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