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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Headliner fix

You think if I remove my saggy headliner and use a thin coat of spray adhesive or some type of fabric adhesive and wrapped it tight again it would work and last for a while?
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

Originally Posted by StringRust
You think if I remove my saggy headliner and use a thin coat of spray adhesive or some type of fabric adhesive and wrapped it tight again it would work and last for a while?
If the board itself is in good shape and the fabric has just begun to fall apart,we offer a scrape and recover kit that includes fabric to rocover the origional GM board.Here's a link to them on our site.

Camaro Headliner Scrape & Recover Kit
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

Yes- that will work - sort of. As said, if the board is in good shape, recovering it is pretty easy - you can use any new fabric and Super 77 spray adhesive. But what you'll see is that there is a thin portion of foam rubber between the board and the old fabric. This old foam will turn to dust - you want to get it off. Scrape it, rub it, sand it - whatever - just get it off. It usually just comes off when you lightly rub it with your hand.

I've done mine once, but I tried to cut my fabric on the corners so it wouldn't bunch up so bad, and I ended up screwing it up there. Next time, I'm going to just let it bunch up in the corners. Also, I'm going to try and just paint fiberglass resin with hardener added onto the backside in an attempt to strengthen it some without actually using glass cloth.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

There is a thread i believe I started, and a member told me about using the fiberglass resin, and covering the liner with speaker felt. I gotta get tie courage up to remove mine (t top). the speaker felt is easy to work with, and looks great. I have a saddle brown interior, but I am gonna gladly use black material. I think it will be better looking when done. I'm gonna do the speaker covers with the same material, and color.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

i have been thinking of this all week...I have a TTA and the headliner is Beechwood,kinda crappy looking,thought of removing it and doing the resin(good to see someone else had the idea also) and sanding it and painting it with the beechwood interior paint i got from the Fiero store,,what do you think,,car is far from Stock/original
but was also thinking of painting it black..any thoughts...
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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I'm not sure what beachwood is. What color is the car? Is it beachwood? Nothing wrong with changing the color of the exterior, just more to it. Door jams, under hood, under hatch will be the original color, and maybe need to be painted..
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

NO!

Let me explain.

Headliner material is a thin material bonded to some foam from the manufacturer.
Over time the foam detiorates and turns into dust.
Since the adhesive was sprayed to the foam, the material sags!

Most fabric stores sell headliner material for about $9-$11 per yard.
You only use about 1 1/2 yards in a 3rd gen.

Be careful of the glue you use.
The temps that a car can get into in the summer can actually make the adhesive lose its grip.
Make sure you use a adhesive rated for higher temperatures or one that states specifically for automotive headliners!

The backer boards are fragile, to say the least.
I have found it especially weak around the shoulder belt holes and visor mounting points.
On a t-top 3rd gen the weakpoints to a headliner board is the whole headliner.
Strengthening up the board with fiberglass resin/hardener is a inexpensive way to fix it up.
Make sure the board is in the shape it should be in prior to f-glassing it, because it is going to be in that shape when you are done!

The total cost of recovering a headliner, if the board is good, is about $40. If you do it yourself!

Hope this helps
Good Luck!!

Last edited by gotabekidding; Aug 15, 2009 at 07:01 AM.
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

Originally Posted by gotabekidding
NO!
Make sure you use a adhesive rated for higher temperatures or one that states specifically for automotive headliners!
I used woodworking grade contact cement , put in in my spare spray gun and shot it on. Same stuff you would use for laminate on kitchens. No problems at all. Even on the hottest days. So hi heat or headliner only glue is not nessesary.

Mine was so bad in fact I glassed 3 headliners together to make one. You would never know looking at it now , total cost of $20 with everything.
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

Originally Posted by gotabekidding
NO!

Let me explain.

Headliner material is a thin material bonded to some foam from the manufacturer.
Over time the foam detiorates and turns into dust.
Since the adhesive was sprayed to the foam, the material sags!

Most fabric stores sell headliner material for about $9-$11 per yard.
You only use about 1 1/2 yards in a 3rd gen.

Be careful of the glue you use.
The temps that a car can get into in the summer can actually make the adhesive lose its grip.
Make sure you use a adhesive rated for higher temperatures or one that states specifically for automotive headliners!

The backer boards are fragile, to say the least.
I have found it especially weak around the shoulder belt holes and visor mounting points.
On a t-top 3rd gen the weakpoints to a headliner board is the whole headliner.
Strengthening up the board with fiberglass resin/hardener is a inexpensive way to fix it up.
Make sure the board is in the shape it should be in prior to f-glassing it, because it is going to be in that shape when you are done!

The total cost of recovering a headliner, if the board is good, is about $40. If you do it yourself!

Hope this helps
Good Luck!!
Good to know. Ive done some research on it and found out the proper way to do it as well. Almost thinking of spending the 150 at year one for a completely new headliner, but thats the easy way out and boring haha.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

Some have mentioned that the replacement aftermarkets don't fit well, and are flocked, not upolstered. I haven't seen one, but I am gonna do my own.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

Good post gottobekidding. You get a beer and shot of whiskey!

Stringrust, I am in the process of repairing my headliner. I will be getting in new fabric from stockinteriors.com this week. Stockinteriors sent me fabric samples to see which one matched up best to stock. Joanne Fabrics sells headliner material but color options are limited. Once I get it up I will post pictures and a write up. I removed my old headliner and reinforced it with fiberglass resin and fiber cloth strips. I had some week spots around the seatbelt areas. You can remove your headliner and see what kind of condition it is in. If it is too bad, then you can order and ABS plastic one. Yours should be in decent condition but will need some repair like mine. Post some pics of the headliner when you take it out.

Where in Jersey are you? I used to live near Philly and had to drive all around NJ for work.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Re: Headliner fix

If you use our kit, AutoZone sells the proper headliner adhesive in a can.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

Originally Posted by 1ATony
If you use our kit, AutoZone sells the proper headliner adhesive in a can.
Tony,which is the correct color for the 1989 TTA,i heard the Doeskin matched better,,am i wrong ,,or do i still go with the beechwood...just having a hard time choosing which Company..i hear to use the one from Stock interiors,,,,but your support is so good here...I need the head liner,and sail panels...just not sold on which color...I really dont want to deal witth one that has been rolled up in a box and have to lay it oout for days..

Someone set me straight whats the final verdict.....brand A or Brand B,ebay or directly to vendor..
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Headliner fix

Very good piece of knowledge.

Thanks
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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Re: Headliner fix

Originally Posted by TTA656
Tony,which is the correct color for the 1989 TTA,i heard the Doeskin matched better,,am i wrong ,,or do i still go with the beechwood...just having a hard time choosing which Company..i hear to use the one from Stock interiors,,,,but your support is so good here...I need the head liner,and sail panels...just not sold on which color...I really dont want to deal witth one that has been rolled up in a box and have to lay it oout for days..

Someone set me straight whats the final verdict.....brand A or Brand B,ebay or directly to vendor..
Here's a link to our color selection. I can send you a few different color choices free of charge so that you can physically have them in your hand to see what one matches the best.

Just buzz me in the office,or PM me and I'll send it out to yah.

Color sample link.
http://images.1aauto.com/IHL/Samples/foambackcloth.jpg
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