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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Rear set delete?

has anyone here taken out their rear seat and left it out? im planning on having a cage and i dont want to put it back in, but i want it to look good. I was thinking i could fabricate something out of sheet metal that would look alright to cover up all the ugly stuff under the rear seats. has anyone done this? what did you do? thanks guys!

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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Very common & you can find it mentioned most when people talk about weight reduction. A will turn up a lot of those threads. Just have to keep narrowing down your search terms, to weed out the stuff that doesn't apply to your search.

I took mine out, but left the bottom cushions in, to give my 100lb Rottie a place to ride, other than the passenger side front seat.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

If you go to camaroZ28.com there is a guy selling a set of seat deletes right now for $50. They are in a 4th gen, but I believe they are the same. Maybe others can back that up. The seller is sinister(something like that). I bought an adjustable panhard from him. Shipped quickly too.
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

i cant find anything on a rear seat delete through the search function. im looking more for pictures rather than information. i was thinking of crafting something out of sheet metal to just cover up some of the ugliness that is back there. But if anyone has done something else or has any ideas, please share!! thanks

-Michael
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Never mind 4th gen Here's the link anyway

Last edited by RU1NER; Oct 11, 2009 at 12:18 AM.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Maybe something fabricated along the line of what Autoform used to do would be kind'a interesting . . .



I know there would be design logistics in a non-vert that would need addressing, but it's more food for thought.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Originally Posted by MMMichael
has anyone here taken out their rear seat and left it out? im planning on having a cage and i dont want to put it back in, but i want it to look good. I was thinking i could fabricate something out of sheet metal that would look alright to cover up all the ugly stuff under the rear seats. has anyone done this? what did you do? thanks guys!

-Michael
What about fabbing something out of fiberglass, may be easier to shape? not sure though, my buddy does alot of fiberglass fabrication on his ***** and it looks good.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Here's the link to the guy selling the rear seat deletes on another forum. Even if you don't buy his, maybe a picture of his will give you an idea.

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712480
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Re: Rear set delete?

a company called Speed speciality used to have them, i think its the same person who is making the 4th gen ones.

I bought a set a long time ago, they were total crap and weighed more that the actual seats and belts. Not the way to go.

Im going to be making a setup for the back of my car, i removed the rear seats because they didnt clear my minitub, after im finished widening the rear interior panels, almost done, i can start on the seat delete part.

I might actually start today, come to think of it, the last interior part i have to make does not affect the floor section, and i have some free time.

Im using fiberglass, its easy to work with. You can make the basic shape out of a thin wood frame wrapped in fleece of some kind, or just use cardboard. The glass over it, sand, glass again, sand body filler, sand, ect repeat ect untill you are happy, then paint or wrap in vinly or carpet.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Originally Posted by 92RSRUINER
Never mind 4th gen
I bet they would fit just fine, since we very commonly put 4th gen rear seats in our 3rd gens. I know I've done it & had no complaints.

BUT.....The link we had. That place is WAYYYYYY over priced! Like $300 for an ABS splitter for LS1 4th gens? A piece of ABS plastic, for $300?????? I bet they could CNC 5 of them out of a 4' x 8' sheet of ABS. 1 sheet = $1800 for them????

Even that rear seat delete piece you had linked too, was WAYYYYY overpriced too. I could build some myself out of good carpet covered hardwood (which is probably all they are) or get some good, thick lexan/plexiglass, heat it up with a heat gun (that is how I made a new shelf in my freezer in my kitchen) & shape it yourself at home! Either way...MUCH cheaper!
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Go to a website and punch in "cardomain.com/ride/2281318 this guy made his own look pretty sweet too--- also try Camaroz28.com a guy 1msfyter had them for sale $85 bucks a st sounds like he makes them too---fed387
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

If I was going to make a rear seat delete, I would probably make the part useful, maybe make the "flap" open and close so I can put tools or something back there...
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Originally Posted by Iroctopless
Maybe something fabricated along the line of what Autoform used to do would be kind'a interesting . . .



I know there would be design logistics in a non-vert that would need addressing, but it's more food for thought.
Is that someone who tried to turn a Vert into a speedster ?!?!! Did they finish it ? If so, thats freaking awesome, the speedsters look stupid with their tops up.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Originally Posted by omnipotentgoku
Is that someone who tried to turn a Vert into a speedster ?!?!! Did they finish it ? If so, thats freaking awesome, the speedsters look stupid with their tops up.
Not tried. They did produce those. Autoform is probably the most commonly seen one (not sure if anybody else even offered the 2-seater conversions). That was an aftermarket conversion some dealerships offered.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

can 4th gen rear seats just drop right in a 3rd gens?
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Originally Posted by cIaRmOaCrZo
can 4th gen rear seats just drop right in a 3rd gens?
Yes, but I would recommend putting the bolts in too.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

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Yes, but I would recommend putting the bolts in too.
well duh lol. the question was kinda directed to whether or not any mod or fab had to be done.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Originally Posted by cIaRmOaCrZo
well duh lol. the question was kinda directed to whether or not any mod or fab had to be done.
All 4 seats are a direct bolt-in fit.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

I'm going to be building a sheetmetal framework with aluminum panels for the back of mine, going to be awhile, have to finish the suspension first... The upper bars for the 4 link are now where the seat used to be!!!! The aluminum panels will be held in with dzus fasteners to facilitate easier bar adjustment and make changing the center section on the rear end easier!!!!
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Originally Posted by Stephen
Not tried. They did produce those. Autoform is probably the most commonly seen one (not sure if anybody else even offered the 2-seater conversions). That was an aftermarket conversion some dealerships offered.
Im very familiar with the existence of the speedsters, but what catches my attention on this one is that it seems to have an actual convertible top rather than just a bunch of snap points/buttons on a flimsy canvas top that I have seen on most of them.



Maybe its just me, but the blue one looks different.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Would the delete from the 4th gen fit our cars?
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Originally Posted by andrewmp6
Would the delete from the 4th gen fit our cars?
I don't see why not, since the seats fit. But the 4th gen seats are a bit narrower, so I dunno if the narrower width would show up with the rear seat delete panels.

But seriously....A delete amounts to 2 flat panels. Make them yourself out of MDF or plexiglass. Both of which are easy to buy yourself.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Re: Rear set delete?

Something else, and it is optional of course. After removing the rear seats, you can see the two humps there on both sides on the floor. If you want to remove them, do something to cover your glass if you choose to use a cut off wheel/angle grinder. Nothing like little black pits in t-tops and windshields right?

Once those are cut out, it looks cleaner, and you can weld in patch panels to give a smoother look in the back there, and you wont see the drain plugs/panels that are probably hairy from the pad that was over them. This is all assuming you are going to take up that back section of carpet in that area. Good luck, post some pics when you're done however you go about doing it.

-Res
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