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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Steering Wheel Replacement

I have one of the god awful radio control steering wheels in my '89 gta in which the buttons had never done anything more then be a massive eye sore. Anyways, I was hoping to get an old second gen t/a wheel but I see the adapters are different and if it's too big a pain to switch it I could really care less and just get a basic 3rd gen t/a wheel. Any advice is welcomed, thanks any merry Christmas!
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Adapters? I wouldn't expect a 2nd gen TA steering wheel to need an adapter.

My 87 GTA has the standard steering wheel & I can't decide on what style aftermarket steering wheel I want. Whatever I get, I know it'll need an adapter, but I have considered welding it to the adapter, to get rid of all the little allen head bolts on the steering wheel center.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

It looks as if it uses a different mounting method to the steering column, either way i'll probably just end up getting another third gen wheel saving myself a hundred dollar's on aesthetics and more into power!
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

I'm not sure if this will help but I love my Grant wheel.
Try this link.
http://www.grantproducts.com/product...eering-wheels/
The Challenger series and some of the others can be found at Kragens auto parts were I found mine for $60.00.
Here's mine.Its a Challenger # 415
I found a link that will take you to Kragens website listing all the wheels and there actual price.Just scroll down the page and you will see the list.=

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/br...n=Grant&mc=GRA

Last edited by Ron U.S.M.C.; Dec 20, 2010 at 11:55 PM.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Thanks! The grant wheels just swap in with no hassle?
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

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Thanks! The grant wheels just swap in with no hassle?
"A Grant Installation Kit is necessary to mount this wheel to a vehicle. This wheel will work with any Grant Standard 3000 or 4000 Series Installation Kits."

Guh.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Do you have an air bag? If so, the 4th gen wheel is a direct swap except for one slight thing, the airbag connector - but you simply swap connectors or straight-wire it.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by Infested
I have one of the god awful radio control steering wheels in my '89 gta in which the buttons had never done anything more then be a massive eye sore. Anyways, I was hoping to get an old second gen t/a wheel but I see the adapters are different and if it's too big a pain to switch it I could really care less and just get a basic 3rd gen t/a wheel. Any advice is welcomed, thanks any merry Christmas!
I just put a 2nd gen wheel in place of my 92's airbag wheel. Best swap ever. Direct bolt in, got mine at the junk yard for $15. The only one that had closed doors.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by ronusmcmma
I'm not sure if this will help but I love my Grant wheel.
Try this link.
http://www.grantproducts.com/product...eering-wheels/
The Challenger series and some of the others can be found at Kragens auto parts were I found mine for $60.00.
Here's mine.Its a Challenger # 415
I found a link that will take you to Kragens website listing all the wheels and there actual price.Just scroll down the page and you will see the list.=

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/br...n=Grant&mc=GRA
I had this exact wheel in my 1986 SWB Chevy Full Size. It's a good wheel, but IMHO it's diameter is a bit small. However, it might have just seemed that way because i had it in a TRUCK. Currently i'm running a Grant 457 in my 1982 Camaro and love it to death.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Grant/470/457/10002/-1

In Addition, you can get Horn buttons with things like Bowties (i have that one) or the Word "Camaro" in Script that are designed to fit into these wheels. If i remember, i'll take a shot of mine so you can get an idea of what it looks like.

Last edited by 383 Power; Dec 21, 2010 at 06:13 PM. Reason: More Info
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by sw33tp34
I just put a 2nd gen wheel in place of my 92's airbag wheel. Best swap ever. Direct bolt in, got mine at the junk yard for $15. The only one that had closed doors.
The question now is.....Will it pass State Inspection without an airbag steering wheel?

Have you gotten the car inspected since you put it in?
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

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The question now is.....Will it pass State Inspection without an airbag steering wheel?

Have you gotten the car inspected since you put it in?


My state doesn't have them. But, all those other options, including the granyt wheel either. I don't think the op[infested]'s car had an airbag in it to start with.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by sw33tp34
My state doesn't have them. But, all those other options, including the granyt wheel either. I don't think the op[infested]'s car had an airbag in it to start with.
Well, my post was directed at you (not the OP) because you are the one who took a Federal Safety Required piece of equipment out. Never heard of a State being able to override a Federal Required item. Otherwise, we wouldn't see The new Grant-type wheels being made with airbags. People would just yank their airbag wheels out & put in standard/old school steering wheels.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Hello All!!

I believe it's, Airbag out = Airbag in, if you remove your Airbag steering wheel, and don't replace it with another Airbag steering wheel, your liable to be punished for an infraction against the law!!!

In otherwords, your in crap!!



If your caught!!





P.S. It's like taking out your seat belts, wrong, wrong, wrong!!!
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:25 AM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by Stephen
Well, my post was directed at you (not the OP) because you are the one who took a Federal Safety Required piece of equipment out. Never heard of a State being able to override a Federal Required item. Otherwise, we wouldn't see The new Grant-type wheels being made with airbags. People would just yank their airbag wheels out & put in standard/old school steering wheels.
I was saying that my state doesn't have inspections. I wasn't aware of that law. The place that sold me the wheel offered to to the swap, I guess they didn't know either.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:28 AM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by 87IROC-DAN61
P.S. It's like taking out your seat belts, wrong, wrong, wrong!!!
I love seatbelts! I feel naked without them.

I had a car in the past that shot an airbag in my face when I cranked it over one day. I've feared them ever since. I'm trying to locate the law you are referencing. I may ask a lawyer. Thanks for the advice on that guys. I'll check it out. I still have my other wheel and airbag, if I need them.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by sw33tp34
I just put a 2nd gen wheel in place of my 92's airbag wheel. Best swap ever. Direct bolt in, got mine at the junk yard for $15. The only one that had closed doors.
Best news i heard all day, did you just get the wheel itself from the scrappers or the center portion too? Either way that's what i wanted from the start, thanks a bunch.

p.s. nah my car doesn't have any air bags
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

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Best news i heard all day, did you just get the wheel itself from the scrappers or the center portion too? Either way that's what i wanted from the start, thanks a bunch.

p.s. nah my car doesn't have any air bags
The wheel and the center portion are one piece from the t/a I grabbed it from. Grant wheels use a hub and a wheel. Factory has the hub and wheel as one piece. I used my original column and that original wheel.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 12:15 AM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

just bringing this back up. about the inspection, a lot of older cars dont have airbags so they wont check to see if yours is air bagged or not. atleast to my knowledge.

theyll get you for damn window tint but not a airbag 'rounf here
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by sw33tp34
I just put a 2nd gen wheel in place of my 92's airbag wheel. Best swap ever. Direct bolt in, got mine at the junk yard for $15. The only one that had closed doors.
Do you have a photo of the 2nd gen wheel installed in your 3rd gen? i have always wanted to do this, but was not sure if it would bolt in.
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 01:55 AM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Originally Posted by minnvike1
Do you have a photo of the 2nd gen wheel installed in your 3rd gen? i have always wanted to do this, but was not sure if it would bolt in.
It was in there. now I have an 80's wheel. It was a direct bolt in though.
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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ok thanks
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Re: Steering Wheel Replacement

Stock 87 Firebird Steering Wheel, At least that what I took it out of, Direct swap for my Airbag wheel.



As far as the States that have inspection, doesn't the VIN plate notate Air Bag on it? Mt car is stored 30 miles away right now.

FYI, we don't have inspections or emissions here.
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