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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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prep for headliner?

im getting my headliner done saterday but an upholstry guy and im wondering if theres anything i should do to prepare for it? iv already got the old cloth down( i switched interiors so i had too lol) or should i just let him deal with it?
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Re: prep for headliner?

I'd just let him deal with it, I did my own headliner and it was pretty easy. Mine had cracks and I just used resin to fix em all but I'm going to eventually get a good board and redo it. I did it last year around April I believe and it has yet to sag.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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yeah but for $90 i can beat it!!
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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That's a really good deal, around here I was quoted $160 to have mine recovered. I did mine for around the same price, $90 is well worth it makes the car look soooo much nicer with a clean headliner.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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yeah its $90 is he can get the material locally, $115 is he has to order it. its gonna take him 3 and a half hours to do it.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 03:57 AM
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Re: prep for headliner?

3 1/2 hours is awefully quick.

I took mine out, cleaned all the foam of the previous sagging cloth off it.
That took about 1 hour.

After that I covered the complete liner in fiberglass.
I'm still in the process of repairing cracks. The fiberglass did not attach too good to the cracked areas which means that the parts that were in one piece are now re-inforced and the cracked areas are raised.

Have to sand it down, then use the kittyhair filler to even out the cracked areas.

Also still have to repair part of the safety belt area as that was broken off, and was my main reason for taking out the headliner and rebulding it.

I definately spent more then 3 1/2 hours by now. Guess it's closer to 4 1/5 but will be 6 before I'm done (that's working time. Since I ran out of fiberglass and am waiting to place a somewhat bigger order for new fiberglass mat and about 3 gallons of epoxy to also do a full hood and some other misclellanious parts the project os in hold for now)

So far this repair has cost me $25 in materials, 4 1/4 hours of work and I still have to order cloth. I think $90 is a fair price.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
im getting my headliner done saterday but an upholstry guy and im wondering if theres anything i should do to prepare for it? iv already got the old cloth down( i switched interiors so i had too lol) or should i just let him deal with it?
Don't worry about it. These shops deal with all kind of conditions with headliners and don't have the problems encountered by the DIY guys. All I did was read a book in the waiting room for a 1 1/2hrs and let them do their thing.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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Re: prep for headliner?

yeah i guess the guys owns a 92 heritage camaro so he cut me a deal. his normal asking price is $115 so it helps , im gonna stay and prolly talk to him for alittle while then go and do something. im driving 1 hour to get up there so yeah.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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got it done today, looks wonderful!! he charged me alittle more but my board needed alittle more work too so it was $123 but looks wonderful!!


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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
got it done today, looks wonderful!! he charged me alittle more but my board needed alittle more work too so it was $123 but looks wonderful!!


Like I said, it is worth the money...
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Nice job,looks great.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Originally Posted by ronusmcmma
Nice job,looks great.
thank you, all went well except for when i went to leave my car wouldnt start, VERY slow to turn over and it barley did that, so i figured the battery got low from the doors standing open, he probably listened to my radio alittle bit( kinda have too after seeing the subs in the back xD) so he jumped me real quick till it started then i went on my way. well after i got home, cleaned my interior, adjusted my hood, and adjsuted my kickdown cable i went to go for a test drive but when i got in i got the same effect i did there so i was like WTF?!?, so i got my tester, tested my battery, fine, tested my alternator, great, put a load on it, engine bogged down BAD and it went dead so my alternator went out on me :/, and i just emptyed my wallet getting my new turn signal and my headliner done :/
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
...engine bogged down BAD and it went dead so my alternator went out on me :/, and i just emptyed my wallet getting my new turn signal and my headliner done :/
I never believed it at the beginning, but that seems to be somewhat typical to project cars.

Oncce you get an older vehicle and start building stuff, the car tends to determine the order in which things require to be done rather then the owner.

I had my plans double crossed by my camaro a few times now, and I only just got started. Also had to replace the alternator on mine.

As for the headliner, I think it looks awesome and for a fair price.
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Re: prep for headliner?

yeah. iv already replaced the engine in it so that took me far off coarse. i start driving in august and i start school again in august so i want to get my car looking good since im the only thirdgen in the parking lot and it keeps throwing me off coarse. i still need window tint, im getting duals put on the car, i need new weather stripping but really all i want right now is my tint done. i can get everything else done in stages
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
yeah. iv already replaced the engine in it so that took me far off coarse. i start driving in august and i start school again in august so i want to get my car looking good since im the only thirdgen in the parking lot and it keeps throwing me off coarse. i still need window tint, im getting duals put on the car, i need new weather stripping but really all i want right now is my tint done. i can get everything else done in stages
With engine done you have a lot of work done that I´m still only planning on doing.

Stuff I personally found more important before I´m going to take care of anything appearance was safety.

Make sure brakes and suspension is in good shape, replaced safety belts and seats (yes, seats can be a safety hazard) and also had the electrical part sorted out, like lights and stuff.

I´ve seen some of your other threads as well and must say that you have a lot of the important stuff covered. I guess the alternator is just one of those things that goes when you´re not counting on it.

As for duals, from your information the car is a 2,8 liter. Technically seen I do not really see where duals would be beneficial. Getting a decent aftermarket cat back in 2,5" size should do just fine and cost about half of duals? But that´s just my opinion. I can´t help but let technical reasoning determine my course of action in some matters.
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

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With engine done you have a lot of work done that I´m still only planning on doing.

Stuff I personally found more important before I´m going to take care of anything appearance was safety.

Make sure brakes and suspension is in good shape, replaced safety belts and seats (yes, seats can be a safety hazard) and also had the electrical part sorted out, like lights and stuff.

I´ve seen some of your other threads as well and must say that you have a lot of the important stuff covered. I guess the alternator is just one of those things that goes when you´re not counting on it.

As for duals, from your information the car is a 2,8 liter. Technically seen I do not really see where duals would be beneficial. Getting a decent aftermarket cat back in 2,5" size should do just fine and cost about half of duals? But that´s just my opinion. I can´t help but let technical reasoning determine my course of action in some matters.
iv got most of the big stuff knocked out for the most part. as for the duals they arent the true duals they are the split off duals. and i got them for free
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
....and i got them for free
That of course is an unbeatable price
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

I got my headliner quoted for $75 parts and labor. Very hard to beat that price.. I don't think I could do it myself that cheaply. I was told under $100 guaranteed.
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 03:58 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

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I got my headliner quoted for $75 parts and labor. Very hard to beat that price.. I don't think I could do it myself that cheaply. I was told under $100 guaranteed.
jump on it
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

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That of course is an unbeatable price
i think so lol, i just purley want the look of duals, but when i first got my car it only had the exhaust all the way to the cat, no intermidiate pipe or muffler, so it was VERY loud. well needless to say i miss the sound so when i have my exhuast shop weld the new system in im gonna have the muffler ditched if i can and run with a glasspack so i can keep the sound. sounds VERY mean for a v6 and will sound better now with my new engine since its beefier than my old stock one
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
jump on it
I already gave the guy a sample of my old headliner so he could get the matching fabric. He will be letting me know when he wants it in his shop within a week. I already powerwashed all the mud off of it, and it is sitting and waiting for the call now.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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Re: prep for headliner?

Does anyone know where to get the plastic mounting clips? I'm missing a few. I called the dealership and they said that they'be been discontinued.

I appreciate any help you can provide!
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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junkyard or you have to keep your old ones if you can get them out without breaking them. my guy installed new clips all around for me, including those
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Any idea where he got them from? I have some of the clips but not all.

Let me know. Thx!
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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no i dont man, i didnt ask
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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NO worries. I found some at Camaro Central. Thanks for following up.
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