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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 11:06 PM
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Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

My rearview mirror has a ton of black marks on the mirror so I purchased a replacement:
https://www.classicindustries.com/pr...rts/g3514.html

Upon arrival, I noticed that the connectors are not the same as the one in my car now. I'm hoping someone may have some experience with the one that I purchased and maybe point me in the direction of making a harness that will fit it, finding one in the wild and providing a wiring diagram. The harness part number is GM 88892597

Here are pictures of what the male end of the mirror looks like:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7Xh8XDdCH9oX4XUm8

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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 01:05 AM
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I have a 1990 (made in 1989) that has the factory original mirror with map lights and it doesn’t look anything like that one on the classic industries site. The shape isn’t even correct. That’s the problem with a lot of those aftermarket places selling restoration parts claiming they are “oer” or “correct”. Ive bought parts from Classic Industries in the past and most of them fell short of the mark and went back. I bought one of their “exact fit oem” arrowhead emblems for the front of my Firebird Esprit and the damn thing wasn’t even the same size as the original so it left this huge visible indentation on the nose. I took it back and bought an NOS vintage GM one off eBay and it fit perfectly. It was only $10 more than the repro junk one from classic. Stuff like that annoys me. Do it right or don’t do it at all. For what they ask for their parts they should be perfect. They were asking $70 for that nose emblem if I recall correctly.

I believe it’s possible to replace the mirror inside the original housing if you’re careful.

I would imagine your original mirror looks the same as mine and has a cord with a connector. I would just return that mirror and get one that is correct for the car. You shouldn’t have to modify anything to work.

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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 01:35 AM
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Here’s what the factory mirror looks like


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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 07:47 AM
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Jim, do they make replacement glass for that factory mirror? Mine is all spotty. I have the exact factory one you have pictured. Want to replace the mirror glass.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 07:48 AM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

Originally Posted by JohnKimble86
My rearview mirror has a ton of black marks on the mirror so I purchased a replacement:
https://www.classicindustries.com/pr...rts/g3514.html

Upon arrival, I noticed that the connectors are not the same as the one in my car now. I'm hoping someone may have some experience with the one that I purchased and maybe point me in the direction of making a harness that will fit it, finding one in the wild and providing a wiring diagram. The harness part number is GM 88892597

Here are pictures of what the male end of the mirror looks like:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7Xh8XDdCH9oX4XUm8

Thanks in advance!
They didnt give you a harness to plug into that? I agree return it and tell them this i not made for your year car. If you can get a harness you can modify it I would think.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye1980
Jim, do they make replacement glass for that factory mirror? Mine is all spotty. I have the exact factory one you have pictured. Want to replace the mirror glass.
according to what I’ve read here you can replace the glass by removing the bezel around the front of the mirror,it snaps off. The problem is finding a replacement mirror. The mirror glass is actually wedge shaped (thicker at top than the bottom) if you look at it. I don’t know where you’d get the glass from. Maybe someone here does.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 09:15 AM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

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according to what I’ve read here you can replace the glass by removing the bezel around the front of the mirror,it snaps off. The problem is finding a replacement mirror. The mirror glass is actually wedge shaped (thicker at top than the bottom) if you look at it. I don’t know where you’d get the glass from. Maybe someone here does.
Yes I am aware of the wedge shape. I have been looking for a replacement glass for some time to no avail. The only option is the re silver the glass itself.

I ran into a similar problem with the drivers side mirror glass. All are oversized and meant to glue on top of the existing glass. Where as the passenger side is the exact fit and replacement. Very strange.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 09:45 AM
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I wonder what it would cost to re-silver an old mirror? This seems to be a common problem with all classic cars. Most of the cars that I have from the 50s also have spotting in the mirror
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 10:11 AM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

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I wonder what it would cost to re-silver an old mirror? This seems to be a common problem with all classic cars. Most of the cars that I have from the 50s also have spotting in the mirror
I found some guy on eBay that does it for 35 bucks, not including shipping. But that is is high. I am looking for places around me. Otherwise buy a kit and do it myself.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 12:48 PM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

Thanks for the feedback. I do have an original mirror, like the one posted above by Jim Rockford. The lights work on the one currently installed in my car, its just the glass that's bad. I wasn't aware of "silvering" glass. I may look into that and take that route.

I am interested to know if anyone is aware of other vehicles from that era that may have had the same mirror, other than firebirds.

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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 12:58 PM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

Originally Posted by JohnKimble86
Thanks for the feedback. I do have an original mirror, like the one posted above by Jim Rockford. The lights work on the one currently installed in my car, its just the glass that's bad. I wasn't aware of "silvering" glass. I may look into that and take that route.

I am interested to know if anyone is aware of other vehicles from that era that may have had the same mirror, other than firebirds.

Thanks!
Here is the kit. Does about 8 car mirrors they informed me.

https://angelgilding.com/mini-silver...source=YouTube

Good video on the process:

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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 01:28 PM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

The mirror listed on classicindustries' site is much closer to the 4th gen style.
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye1980
I found some guy on eBay that does it for 35 bucks, not including shipping. But that is is high. I am looking for places around me. Otherwise buy a kit and do it myself.
That seems like a bargain compared to spending a lot more money on an aftermarket mirror that’s not correct for the car and doesn’t look the same. Plus,if it’s done correctly you won’t have to worry about it again.
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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You’d think that since these are now considered “classic cars”,and have a strong following that Classic industries or some other “restoration parts” supplier would just make the mirror part available,ior reproduce the entire mirror exactly. I’ve never understood the sloppy attempts at so many items. Especially these days with the Internet,word spreads fast.
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 12:55 PM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

Originally Posted by Hawkeye1980
I found some guy on eBay that does it for 35 bucks, not including shipping. But that is is high. I am looking for places around me. Otherwise buy a kit and do it myself.
Could you provide me the link to the Ebay Guy?

I tried calling some Glass and Mirror places around me, Central PA, but they all don't do it.

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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 10:01 PM
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That seems like a bargain compared to spending a lot more money on an aftermarket mirror that’s not correct for the car and doesn’t look the same. Plus,if it’s done correctly you won’t have to worry about it again.
Not if you have to do several like I do. I am going to get the re-mirror kit for my needs. But If you have a 1 off I guess it might be worth it.
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 10:03 PM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

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Could you provide me the link to the Ebay Guy?

I tried calling some Glass and Mirror places around me, Central PA, but they all don't do it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-interi...4AAOSwlgNbBxr5
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Old Sep 22, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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I went with the Ebay seller. I'll post the before and after once the service is fulfilled. That way if any of you are curious you can see how well/terrible it went

Thanks again for all the help and suggestions!
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Old Sep 22, 2020 | 11:32 AM
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Re: Rearview Mirror w/ Map Lights

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I went with the Ebay seller. I'll post the before and after once the service is fulfilled. That way if any of you are curious you can see how well/terrible it went

Thanks again for all the help and suggestions!
Great, please let us know and glad to have helped out!
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 12:40 AM
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In to see how this goes. Mine's been spotty since I got it (2002), I've just dealt with it, but I think it's getting worse recently.
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 09:36 AM
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John, any update on this? Did you send it to the eBay guy?
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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 08:00 PM
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Hey, Hawkeye. I did send it. He's had it since Wednesday. I haven't heard anything back since. Once I get it back, I"ll report back with the results. I'm hoping it will be back by this Friday, 10/9.

He has been super easy to work with so far, so that's a good sign.

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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 08:11 PM
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Awesome good luck!
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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 01:11 PM
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Just checking in. I haven't received it back yet. I'm still waiting.
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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 01:17 PM
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Just checking in. I haven't received it back yet. I'm still waiting.
Whats the turn around time supposed to be? Did you reach out?
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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 01:21 PM
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I"m not sure on the turn around time. I reached out last week and he stated that he figured that it'd be done by last week. I'll give it until tomorrow and then I'll be reaching back out for an update.
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Just received an update! They finished the last coat of paint on the back today and expect to ship it out on Wednesday. So I'll probably have it by the weekend/Monday.
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Old Oct 15, 2020 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye1980
Not if you have to do several like I do. I am going to get the re-mirror kit for my needs. But If you have a 1 off I guess it might be worth it.
That’s true Hawkeye,I see your point. It would get costly in a hurry!

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Originally Posted by JohnKimble86
Just received an update! They finished the last coat of paint on the back today and expect to ship it out on Wednesday. So I'll probably have it by the weekend/Monday.
Thanks for the update. Sorry it took a bit to reply I’ve been busy with work. I look forward to seeing the results
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Today is the day we, especially me, have been waiting for. It has arrived. I'm very satisfied with how it turned out!!!

It took about 2.5 weeks from the time I sent it out till the time I received it back. This will vary depending on where you're shipping from. He lives in upstate NY.

Total cost was $46.33. Here's the link of where I got it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-interi...72.m2749.l2648

The gentleman, Kent, was very responsive to my inquiries.





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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 01:16 PM
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Awesome!! Looks great!
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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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I second that,It came out beautifully! Guess I’ll be sending mine in.

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He might be getting a new rush of mirrors, too bad mine's put away already due to circumstances. Guess that's what spring is for!
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 02:47 PM
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i have like 4 mirrors I have to do. Gonna do it myself. But the guy does nice work for sure!
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Old Dec 20, 2020 | 03:14 AM
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wow, this was handy, I'm sending one in too.
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