Anyone hear about the engine mangment system from painless for the ls1? its a perfect hi-rpm kit. comes with hydraulic cam, ecm and harness. Supposedly supposed too get you 409hp/407lbsft with good fuel economy. Just wondering if anyones heard of this are if anyone has this and if its any good.

 

You can get that amount of HP out of the stock PCM system with heads/cam, why pay the outrageous prices of Painless for the same thing.

 

ya i dont even know the price for it i was just wondering if anyone had it. ya a cam and reprogrammed ecm could probably do it for ya. heads arent that cheap thou

 

Yeah, heads can be bought for an LS1 cheap...about 1300 for a set of Patriot heads which are extremly good heads for an LS1. Those are stage 2 heads.

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Precision welded combustion chambers.
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well 1300 can be defined cheap too the older crowd but too a kid with hes first 3rd gen working at taco bell sees those heads as hella expensive lol. Me personally ive been looking at the trick flows i havent decided wut mods are going on my ls1 before i put it in yet i want over 400hp for sure no compromise trying too retain good gas mileage i got a pretty long commute each day.

 

If it's a 6-speed, then you'll be pretty much set. I know guys running 500 to the wheels getting 27-28mpg with 3.73's

LS1's are wierd how you can make hella power and still get good gas milage, not like your standard SBC. My LT1 in the GTA is the same way, build the fool out of them and get 26 or so with 400 to the wheels.

 

ya they really did somthing right with the new engine designs. If you know what there set up for 500 with that mpg i would love too know it. Im just trying too stay as far away from radical cams that i can you can make a engine that has 1000hp the trick too keeping it tame is a tame cam. well i should say the only way too get the 1000hp with driveability is boost and a tame cam lol itd be expensive.

 

LS1 parts are pretty pricy to being with, add the word conversion to that and they get even more expensive.. Hell the headers alone are what ~1000?

 

$799 plus shipping.

$889 if you go for A.I.R. tubes & 3" collector.

 

once u finally get it all together thou and sit down in that driver seat and go WOT you forget about how much you just spent lol.

 

very true!

to stay on topic... just use the stock pcm and harness... itll support most everything you will do to the car