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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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TONS of 5.3L engines for sale

If anyone is looking for a cheap LS family block to use for a swap, here it is! Check out how many blocks this guy has...


http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/pts/1303301750.html
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Be kinda cool, if he has any HHR aluminum block ones.....
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Too bad I'm in New England; I'd grab 2 just to have a spare at that price
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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Re: TONS of 5.3L engines for sale

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Be kinda cool, if he has any HHR aluminum block ones.....
HHR or SSR? The HHR is that toaster looking thing...
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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HHR or SSR? The HHR is that toaster looking thing...
Your right....SSR.
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Trailblazer SS' also got them and were more common than SSr's
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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anyone ever convet a 4.8 to a 5.3 in a truck. can you use the same computer?
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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Same computer, yes.
Same tune, no.
You can get it running with a stock 4.8 tune but don't plan on doing any major driving until you get it tuned.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:53 AM
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Trailblazer SS' also got them and were more common than SSr's
The TBSS only had the LS2 6 liter. The SSR MIGHT have had the 5.3 very early on but the later years were LS2s as well. However, I think the early ones had the LS6.

AFAIK the only performance oriented vehicles the 5.3 has come in are cars and the top of the line Colorado.

FWIW, those can be had cheaper locally from what I'm told and you don't have to ship them or go pick them up. Not a bad price though for others that don't have a local yard that will sell them cheap.
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Re: TONS of 5.3L engines for sale

The early SSRs had the 5.3 I remember being disappointed that they gave them the "small" motor when they first came out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_SSR

They never came with a LS6. It was 5.3 to LS2
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The TBSS = LS2, 6.0L. The 5.3's came in an optioned Trailblazer LT or LS.
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 03:56 AM
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The early SSRs had the 5.3 I remember being disappointed that they gave them the "small" motor when they first came out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_SSR

They never came with a LS6. It was 5.3 to LS2
Ah, I wasn't sure if they got the LS6 or not.

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The TBSS = LS2, 6.0L. The 5.3's came in an optioned Trailblazer LT or LS.
Ya know, I completely forgot about the base trailblazers getting v8s. I even looked around for a while to try and find one..
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Originally Posted by harner
The 5.3's came in an optioned Trailblazer LT or LS.
That is what my moms trailblazer LT has......
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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Theirs a JY local to me that sell's 5.3L's for $350 each, and 6.0L's for $600 each.

I <3 them. haha

thats in CAD pricing too, and why we've got a pair of 6.0's here
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I'm giving serious thought to dropping a 5.3/4L60E into my wife's '92 RS, so I sure hope that I can find an inexpensive engine like that near me when the time comes...
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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You know....
I'm not sure what the weight difference is between my 87 GTA & my moms '05 Trailblazer, but the mileage rating between our 2 is the SAME 18 mpg. And I'm still getting 20mpg (original EPA estimate was 21, iirc), with 200,000 miles on the original, unrebuilt engine. Does that say good about my 22yr old car? Or bad about her 4yr old Trailblazer? 18 year difference & no better mileage? Yes, I'm sure hers makes more HP than mine, but that's not my point here.

My GTA runs GREAT. Starts before the engine even makes a full revolution. Smokes the tires easily. Sure...Its probably down on power, but you'd never know it!
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The weight difference is pretty considerable. Also, your car is a lot more aerodynamic. That same 5.3L would probably get 24-26mpg on the highway in a GTA.
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This thread got me looking in my area for one of these things. Think I may have found mine for around the same price ($400). We shall see....
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Originally Posted by Stephen
Yes, I'm sure hers makes more HP than mine, but that's not my point here.
Remember, hers makes more power, and gets the same gas mileage in a heavier vehicle. It also has much tighter emissions restrictions compared to yours as well..
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Originally Posted by kewl_blades
Same computer, yes.
Same tune, no.
You can get it running with a stock 4.8 tune but don't plan on doing any major driving until you get it tuned.
I doubt it, I've seen guys get away with driving LQ4s on LM7 computers. That's even more of a difference, so running an LM7 on LR4 programming should be possible. Go to www.ls1truck.com for all the info you could ever want.
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By the way, pre-'01 engines have issues with the blocks, the rocker arms, and, when used in performance applications, the rod "bolts". Ask for '01 or newer.
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By the way, pre-'01 engines have issues with the blocks, the rocker arms, and, when used in performance applications, the rod "bolts". Ask for '01 or newer.
Is that for just the 5.3's? I hadn't heard that before (concerning the 6.0's anyways). Also, I would be wary of dropping a salvage yard motor in a fresh engine sway anyways, I would want to crack her open and see what's inside and replace whatever needs to be replaced.
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By the way, pre-'01 engines have issues with the blocks, the rocker arms, and, when used in performance applications, the rod "bolts". Ask for '01 or newer.
what kind of problems are we talking here? just found a block locally that fits into this "troubled" year range and want to know what I'm possibly up against.
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If you dont race or boost the crap out of the engine you wont have an issue

97-98 blocks have the older style internal oil passages. Later models were slightly tweaked for improved oil flow throughout. You wont notice a difference short of roadcourse action and even then, impact will be minute

Rod bolts were standard issue problem much like all 3rd gen rod bolts. The engines were not rated past 6,000 RPMs so they were not built to go there, much like TPI rod bolts releasing at 5k. ARP bolts and cleaning up the rod journal solves the problem

As for the rocker arms, issues come and go. They are a factory roller design, but use cast bodies and they do NOT like missed oil changes. The needle bearings like to wear and lock up and the castings like to crack when neglected or abused. These problems will be present on any LSx engine 97-present

If you want more in depth reading, do a search on each on LS1tech
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Originally Posted by Pocket
If you dont race or boost the crap out of the engine you wont have an issue
not so. even stock work trucks have problems.

97-98 blocks have the older style internal oil passages. Later models were slightly tweaked for improved oil flow throughout. You wont notice a difference short of roadcourse action and even then, impact will be minute
it's not about the oiling, it's about the parts.

Rod bolts were standard issue problem much like all 3rd gen rod bolts. The engines were not rated past 6,000 RPMs so they were not built to go there, much like TPI rod bolts releasing at 5k. ARP bolts and cleaning up the rod journal solves the problem
are you nuts? TPI rod bolts don't just fail at 5001 rpm, I've had more than one B2L-turned-carbureted see 6000 rpm reliably. As for the LSX bolts, they did get improved for '01. these are usually good for 6800-rpm upshifts in 5.7 and smaller. Bigger bore 6.0s have heavier pistons, so figure 6500.

As for the rocker arms, issues come and go. They are a factory roller design, but use cast bodies and they do NOT like missed oil changes. The needle bearings like to wear and lock up and the castings like to crack when neglected or abused. These problems will be present on any LSx engine 97-present
there was a streak of rockers, we call them a batch, that were all extra-bad, and the batch was rather large. The best way to avoid them is to use '01-up rockers.

If you want more in depth reading, do a search on each on LS1tech
Most of what's there agrees with what I've been seeing in the vehicles of my customers. I'm active on LS1tech.com, under a different username.
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Originally Posted by 1A Dan
what kind of problems are we talking here? just found a block locally that fits into this "troubled" year range and want to know what I'm possibly up against.
cracking is way more common, and you can't bore those early 4.8/5.3 blocks to 4" like you can the later ones, and some even won't go to 3.898" without having cylinder wall failure. Don't try nitrous, turbocharging, supercharging, high-compression, or high rpm with these early 4.8/5.3 blocks.
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Is that for just the 5.3's? I hadn't heard that before (concerning the 6.0's anyways). Also, I would be wary of dropping a salvage yard motor in a fresh engine sway anyways, I would want to crack her open and see what's inside and replace whatever needs to be replaced.
Of the few early 6.0s that I've magnafluxed, none had any cracks. As for the cylinder walls, none of them needed over-bored at all, honing was enough.
Folks, this next part is opinion, but I think that until the '01 production started sometime in '00, the 4.8/5.3 block used different water jacketing than the 5.7 and 6.0 blocks, and I think finally they simply discarded the problematic version.
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Re: TONS of 5.3L engines for sale

Originally Posted by SheldonZ28
Theirs a JY local to me that sell's 5.3L's for $350 each, and 6.0L's for $600 each.

I <3 them. haha

thats in CAD pricing too, and why we've got a pair of 6.0's here
Whats the name of this yard? My friend wants to pick up a 6.0.
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Re: TONS of 5.3L engines for sale

Originally Posted by SheldonZ28
Theirs a JY local to me that sell's 5.3L's for $350 each, and 6.0L's for $600 each.

I <3 them. haha

thats in CAD pricing too, and why we've got a pair of 6.0's here
Are they blown up!!!! Salvage yards here want $950 for a complete engine with computer.
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Supply and Demand is the basis for pricing in a given region.
.....Not really on topic.
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by the way, '01-up cranks have drilled journals that early cranks don't have. This reduces unnecessary mass.
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