I found an lsx, not sure what it is, but is stamped with the 6.0L engine size, and it has the front driver's side block casting removed. It looks like an information plate or something was removed from the block, and now the water jacket is exposed. can this be welded? if so, does anyone know how it must be done? if it can't be done that's fine, but the engine over all besides that one hole is in excelent condition. I will post pictures of the hole later but curently don't have a picture of it. please any help will be great. I would like to buy this for an lsx swap

 

If it's what I'm thinking of, the hole is supposed to be there. There should be 4 holes on the front of the block for the water pump. 3 of them look "normal" and the other one looks like it was cut at an angle, that's the only way I know how to describe it. Get a picture and I'll see if that's what I'm referring to.

 

no this one was cut, whoever cut it did a bad job cause you can see the extra cut marks.

 

Seriously man, don't even waste your time - it's not like 6L engines are ultra-rare!

How much would you be buying it for?? If the guy isn't giving you a couple hundred bucks to take it off his hands, I'd bet that it's not worth the hassle/time/expense involved...

 

he would be sellin it for a few hundred, maybe cheaper. but it's almost a long block just no heads. it's in good shape just that one square hole cut into it... would it be weldable? and if it was could I just have a friend weld it for me, he has a complete tig welder and he can weld aluminum pretty good

 

but it's not the point of the 6.0L being rare, it's the point of it's price. if I can get it for way cheaper than somewhere else if I can have that hole welded up, then why not? If I do keep the engine it's not going to see over 700 hp cause I wanna keep it mild anyway but still

 

He means you can get a GOOD 6.0L for cheap at most places. No sense buying a junk motor for 300 bucks or w/e and finding out it isn't gonna be repairable after all. Especially with all the other expenses you'll have trying to swap it into a 3rd gen.

 

If its aluminum then its a LS2, which is NOT cheap compared to a truck 6.0L

Post a pic of the hole or point it out in one of the pics in here
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ac-arrest.html

If its not a factory hole then the block is scrap and all internal parts suspect. The cost of repairing a hole, esp when you dont have the missing piece is well beyond the price of a new block. Im speaking of doing the job correctly though

 

Gm Made 6.0l trucks genIII, in aluminum too... rare'er, in CAddy's and SS's... but you can get a new block from GM for around 1000 bucks NEW. Iron is like 700 bucks

 

I agree with Pocket from what I understand a hole in the block would cost alot to fix. A weld would not work.

 

from what I can tell on those pictures, is that the hole in the block I want to get is the factory casting number on the front of the block... so I don't think it's worth it but the block with the internals is in a crate right now so I beleive he was going to have it shipped, maybe to gm to get a replacement one. and yes, the block is aluminum. I guess if he ships it to get a new block I'll be buying the new block from him, pics still coming but not till tuesday

 

Do you mean the raised pad that says G1502?

Why the heck would anyone CUT that out unless it was a CFC car and the engine MUST be rendered useless

 

Even that really doesn't make sense - here's the procedure they were supposed to use for that CFC bullcrap (written by one of my local F-buds)...

So cutting a hole in the block is a lot more work than would be required. Something's REALLY screwy with that engine...

 

well like v8 rumble said, that's not true for the cash for clunkers cars, and plus this engine has been there at his shop for a while, I beleive it's been there since before the cash for clunkers thing started. like I said pictues on tuesday, but he might be shipping it out to get a brand new one, in which case he would sell me that new block instead of the one that's currently sitting in the crate right now

 

sorry for the delay in pictures but here they are

 

THAT is just screwy as hell...

 

That block is officially wasted

It would make a good mock-up though, but thats all

 

yeah, I know. I dont know what happened, a few people have said maybe they were trying to change that number and while they were tapping it it cracked, so they cut it out and maybe were going to reweld something onto it. but I can't tell since I have no idea

 

well, i don't exactly have lots of money, so if I were to buy an ls block it would have to be one I could use not a mock up. I'm no drag race team that has the money to test several different types of pistons or different cams for just a couple of races

 

the one thing that really sucks is that that was a perfectly good ls2, but they cut that piece out rendering it useless

 

There was probably something wrong with it anyways or else they wouldn't have cut the hole in it. They probably wanted to make a keychain from the 6.0L badge lol.

 

Y'know, that's the 1st explanation I've heard/thought of that makes even a bit of sense...

But as it is now, that block is just waiting to start its new life as several dozen beer cans...

 

Make a coffee table out of it.

 

Or a BBQ!

 

Not worth attempting to repair. The reason for the cut was to remove the badging and also rendor the block useless. This was probably a development or test engine thats could also have other issues...

 

It wasn't the 6.0 badge, it was the vin thingy... and now that you mention it. maybe I will make a keychain out of the 6.0 badge. haha. then make a coffe table with it

 

Yeah! 2 novelty items from one engine. Great thinking

 

maybe it was stolen tryin to hide info about where it came from

 

Maybe, but why steal a motor if you are gonna render it useless anyways? At least grind off the numbers or something lol.

 

eh, I doubt it. a lot of these explinations are a lot of wierd things. I honestly dont know why it was done or what happened or what but I do know that there's a ruined ls2 block at that shop thats crated up ready to be shipped somewhere... I'll try and see if he gets a brand new ls2 block cause I'll buy that, then buy a car to put it in

 

there was an explination a guy gave me. that they were trying to restamp numbers and they cracked it, so they were going to fix it after they cut it off

 

Makes as much sense as anything else, I guess... But even with that, trying to re-stamp a block is a bit suspicious...

 

still odd to me y cut a big a$$ hole when you can just weld over the crack instead of all the bs cuting and weldin a big hole and y would you re stamp a motor to begin with

 

I definitely want one.

 

well, that's exactly why I was asking if it's repairable. cause I don't know what happened to it

 

eh, too much time on the block i found. it's just the short block. so pretty much will almost completely be useless if i make a bbq

 

it prob could be fixed but your gonna need someone who is a damn good welder might be cheaper just to find another

 

well, I'm not so sure, if I can get this block off the guy for like 50 bucks, and how much would a welder charge me? cause I know a guy that's been welding almost since he was born, and he's damn good. He's a good friend of mine and if it is weldable I can probably get him to do it for a case of beer. Is it weldable? that's probably what I shouldve titled this thread ''Is it weldable''

 

if you browse around on ls1tech, you can typically find complete 6.0l shortblocks for around 200$

 

You can weld whatever and it seal the hole fine

The problem comes with warping everything and putting internal stresses in the block

Like I said above, welding it isnt the issue. Fixing it correctly will be

 

and shipping? the guy will let me build his block there if I buy it from him. and it's in my city

 

Oh, I see what you mean. well if it weren't like twin turboed or supercharged would it be alright?

 

Ive known some people that if they discover a block or transmission case has something seriously wrong with it that isnt very repairable, they purposely render it very obviously unusable (like by putting a hole in it). This prevents anybody who may run across it before it gets scraped from using it not knowing about a less obvious flaw.

I still remember how loud it was when my friends dad took a ballpin hammer to a th350 case, ouch.

 

well i've inspected the block as thoroughly as I could while it still in the crate, and the rotating assembly still turns, and from what I can tell the only thing is that damned hole. I'll ask the guy again but i don't think it's something like that.

 

It still is not worth it no matter how cheap you get it for. Like someone else said, buy a working shortblock off of LS1Tech for $200.

 

Some cracks esp around the mains only show up when they are stressed, but you will never build oil pressure

That happened to a local racer's BBC

You will not see a crack there and even if it was visible it may not be blatantly obvious like a giant hole in the front of the block

 

eh. I still need a car to put it in. the block was just going to sit for a while anyway

 

well the guy ended up giving me the short block for free. he was just trying to clean out his garage today and he gave it to me

 

time to make a coffee table

 

well I'm going to first see if I can get it repaired. if there's a machine shop crazy enough to. if not, I'll sell the bolts, the crank, rods maybe, and any other usable parts and I'll clean up the block and make my table or grill or whatever out of it