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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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installing the engine from the top

I've seen a few people install the LS engine in from the top. Is it possoble to do this with the engine and trans already attached? Probably not, as I haven't seen a thread about it, but I figured I would ask. I have a stock k-member and auto trans if that matters.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

I would think so. I know I put my regular SBC with transmission attached in my car from the top all at once.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

That's how I did a regular swap also. I wasn't sure if the LS1 oil pan would prevent them from going in together.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

Originally Posted by no1kicker
That's how I did a regular swap also. I wasn't sure if the LS1 oil pan would prevent them from going in together.
Its a TIGHT fit but after some beer and alot of use of bad words it can be done. My advice is do it from the bottom.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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I installed engine/trans from the top after notching the K-member.

The next one will be from the bottom.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

i did it with my ls2 t56 attached together but with the tubular k member and didnt have many problems, had to give it a few good jerks but i would deffinetly do it again
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

I put in my LS2/T56 from the top and will never do it like that again. I had the radiator out, the wiper motor off, and a tubular K member and it was still tight. Since then I've removed and re-installed the T56 (to install the Tick remote bleeder) by lowering the K-member/ motor a bit and unbolting the trans from under the car and it was very easy and fast to do.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

Originally Posted by five7kid
I installed engine/trans from the top after notching the K-member.

The next one will be from the bottom.
Amen!i did a lsx/4l60 from the top. removed wiper motor, radiator, driver side clamshell and loosened both engine mounts on k-member. it was a bitch!
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

I wouldnt suggest going in from the top without a K-member notch or tubular unit. I cant fit my fingers between my pan and K with the tailshaft raised in final position. I dont see how anyone got a pan past the untouched K

SBCs are a different size/shape and have no problem coming out from the top

Bottom is still easier for both
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

My kmember is notched and mine went in from the top with no problems at all, it took like 5 minutes literally. I already removed the wiper motor and have a notched K though.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

Another from the top with the trans attached here. Both motor mounts were attached, k-member wasn't notched, wiper motor and radiator removed. You'll need to go in really steep with a cherry picker (a little too steep...I wouldn't do it again). It can be done though.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

Did mine from the top with a t56. Stock k-member without a notch. Put the car up on jack stands so i could go in at a steep angle and not hit the tailshaft on the floor. Had it in and out 4 times this way without a problem.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

Originally Posted by kizmaro89
Did mine from the top with a t56. Stock k-member without a notch. Put the car up on jack stands so i could go in at a steep angle and not hit the tailshaft on the floor. Had it in and out 4 times this way without a problem.
Same here. So long as you get the car high enough in the air you can get the angle down and it slides right in with relative ease but I do have to pull the wiper motor out everytime
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

I've got a hawks k-member and put the motor and trans in mine in about 1/2 hour by myself. The only help I had was the engine leveler I used to get the angle. It was worth it's weight in gold when I was working solo on the car.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

What is the method for going in from the bottom? How do you get the car high enough to get the engine under it?
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 05:35 AM
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Re: installing the engine from the top

Put the rear wheels on ramps and use a cherry picker to lift the front up. Ghettocruiser's swap threads have a good explanation of this
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