Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
07-13-2010, 10:52 AM
#101
Supreme Member
iTrader: (30)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: O'Fallon, MO
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Don't be afraid to post your methods. There's more than one way to skin this cat.
07-13-2010, 04:04 PM
#102
08-13-2010, 03:29 PM
#105
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Crestview, FL.
Posts: 533
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1989 IROC-Z, 1979 Malibu Classic
Engine: LSx 5.3
Transmission: MN12 6-speed, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Damn! how the hell did you score an LS1/T56 combo with wiring harness and computer for $1700!?!?!?!? Is there anything wrong with the motor?
08-13-2010, 03:40 PM
#106
Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 89 formula 350 & 2001 ws6 ta
Engine: 350 tpi & ls1
Transmission: 700r4, t56
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt ? & 10 bolt 3:42
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
2002 LS1 would not have a egr tube in the intake.
08-13-2010, 04:20 PM
#107
Supreme Member
iTrader: (24)
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 7,878
Likes: 0
Received 58 Likes
on
42 Posts
Car: 92 Firebird
Engine: Supercharged 6.0
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 8.8 3.73
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Perimeter valve covers and 4 bolt WP say it's a 98
Still, you got the whole deal for what most get just the trans for. Wish i could find a deal like that
Still, you got the whole deal for what most get just the trans for. Wish i could find a deal like that
08-13-2010, 04:54 PM
#108
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Warrenton, VA
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Car: 1987 Camaro IROC-Z
Engine: LS1
Transmission: LS1 T56
Axle/Gears: Richmond 3.73
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
yea thats definitely a 98 LS1. the perimeter bolt valve covers and individually bolted coils mean its a 98. Have fun with that harness and ecu...the 98s are not the best to use
08-13-2010, 09:34 PM
#111
09-13-2010, 03:40 PM
#113
Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: high springs, fl
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: '83 Camaro Berlinetta
Engine: 305 with aluminum heads, voodoo cam
Transmission: 700r4 auto
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt w/ 3.73 gears
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
sweet ride..im following now. oh, and about the 1st gen camaro in the background, can i have? lol spilled my coke all over myself when i seen tht. beautiful car =]
09-14-2010, 07:59 AM
#116
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Great work blake!
Regardless of the year of the motor/trans, you still got a good deal. You can deal with the wiring and PCM when the time comes...but I certainly wouldnt have turned that deal down. Especially if you heard/saw the motor run prior to it being pulled. Were you able to drive it or see it move? Just to make sure the trans worked...
On your patch panels. So this is the first time you've welded? If so...I have to say. Ive seen WAYYYYYY worse from someone trying to shave their doors and being a new welder.
You did it correctly. Tack welding to keep from warping the metal. You didnt seem to leave too many gaps or holes, so you did pretty good. Just make sure you get a good sealer primer on there to keep it from rusting.
This is the time to have patience and take your time. The final quality of the paintjob will be much better if you take your time and get things as nice and flat as you can now. Get those welds nice and flat. The less filler you need to make it straight the better. Tho..it seems you already grasped that concept so good work!!
You seem to be putting a good amount of work into this car...and I see no reason why you shouldnt yank the front suspension and get the k-member out for mods/paint. Its not hard, especially with no motor or trans. Heck a buddy and you can probably lift the front of the car at this point no problem. This would be a good time to clean up your steering parts, replace anything thats worn, clean and repack the wheel bearings etc etc. Just dont turn any of the tie rods, and keep the strut mounts in the same place and you wont have alignment issues when it goes back together. The front ends are really easy to take apart/reassemble....
J.
Regardless of the year of the motor/trans, you still got a good deal. You can deal with the wiring and PCM when the time comes...but I certainly wouldnt have turned that deal down. Especially if you heard/saw the motor run prior to it being pulled. Were you able to drive it or see it move? Just to make sure the trans worked...
On your patch panels. So this is the first time you've welded? If so...I have to say. Ive seen WAYYYYYY worse from someone trying to shave their doors and being a new welder.
You did it correctly. Tack welding to keep from warping the metal. You didnt seem to leave too many gaps or holes, so you did pretty good. Just make sure you get a good sealer primer on there to keep it from rusting.
This is the time to have patience and take your time. The final quality of the paintjob will be much better if you take your time and get things as nice and flat as you can now. Get those welds nice and flat. The less filler you need to make it straight the better. Tho..it seems you already grasped that concept so good work!!
You seem to be putting a good amount of work into this car...and I see no reason why you shouldnt yank the front suspension and get the k-member out for mods/paint. Its not hard, especially with no motor or trans. Heck a buddy and you can probably lift the front of the car at this point no problem. This would be a good time to clean up your steering parts, replace anything thats worn, clean and repack the wheel bearings etc etc. Just dont turn any of the tie rods, and keep the strut mounts in the same place and you wont have alignment issues when it goes back together. The front ends are really easy to take apart/reassemble....
J.
09-14-2010, 08:13 AM
#117
Supreme Member
iTrader: (24)
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 7,878
Likes: 0
Received 58 Likes
on
42 Posts
Car: 92 Firebird
Engine: Supercharged 6.0
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 8.8 3.73
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Regardless of the year of the motor/trans, you still got a good deal. You can deal with the wiring and PCM when the time comes...but I certainly wouldnt have turned that deal down. Especially if you heard/saw the motor run prior to it being pulled. Were you able to drive it or see it move? Just to make sure the trans worked...
He's going to need an alignment anyways after the swap. The Alum engine lifts the nose up quite a bit, so he'll have to do something to the springs to lower it back down. You cant guess the ride height accurately enough for the alignment to be in specs
09-14-2010, 08:38 AM
#118
Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Engine: LT1 Hotcam only
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 9" 4.30 gears and a Locker
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
It's been a while since I have made my way over to the site, man you have completed a lot of work, cars is looking good! Nice progress!
09-14-2010, 08:52 AM
#119
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Mechanicsville Virginia
Posts: 715
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1989 Turbo Trans Am gta
Engine: 383 78mm turbo
Transmission: Th350 rmvb with brake
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.45s
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Good job so far.
09-14-2010, 10:13 AM
#120
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Elk City OK
Posts: 580
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 92 25th anv z28
Engine: 346 TC78 Turbo
Transmission: 4L80E
Axle/Gears: 3.25 9"Nodular, Strange axles
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Looks good! Just went throught your whole thread. Cant wait to see it more completed!
10-03-2010, 06:58 PM
#132
Member
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Nice work... take your time on it. I know body work can be tedious though. It'll be worth it in the end
10-04-2010, 11:04 PM
#134
Member
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
You wont pass with an MS3, or the BBK. All emissions systems have to be in place, and since your engine was from a 1998 F-Body you will need the AIR, EGR, CATS, HO2S and EVAP set up, which includes using the Fuel tank since it has the evap canister on top of it. There are some cams that will pass CA emissions but I'm not sure which ones will. It's funny that you ask me because I'm in Oak, since I'm also a smog tech.
10-05-2010, 12:46 PM
#135
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,032
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
You wont pass with an MS3, or the BBK. All emissions systems have to be in place, and since your engine was from a 1998 F-Body you will need the AIR, EGR, CATS, HO2S and EVAP set up, which includes using the Fuel tank since it has the evap canister on top of it. There are some cams that will pass CA emissions but I'm not sure which ones will. It's funny that you ask me because I'm in Oak, since I'm also a smog tech.
Please let me know if I understand this right:
98-00 LS1 w/ EGR on intake and slightly larger cam (mild loss of power due to EGR)
01-04 LS1 w/ LS6 intake, no EGR and smaller 5.3 truck cam (smaller cam compensates for loss in power and passes emissions w/o EGR)
Last edited by blakecharles; 10-05-2010 at 01:02 PM.
10-05-2010, 12:57 PM
#136
Member
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
worse come to worse you can tell them it's out of a 2002 F-Body, they won't be able to tell the difference. and then you can use the LS6 intake and no EGR.
And yeah I'm with the Maro Boyz.... so you've seen me.... lol
And yeah I'm with the Maro Boyz.... so you've seen me.... lol
11-19-2010, 08:39 AM
#138
Member
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
Mike
11-19-2010, 08:50 AM
#139
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: CT
Posts: 685
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1988 Iroc
Engine: 5.7L
Transmission: '96 T56, Hurst Shifter, Mech VSS
Axle/Gears: 3.45 9 Bolt
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
You do some good work! Subscribed. Im going to pull my motor and trans by lifting my car off.
Cant wait to see this car done.
Cant wait to see this car done.
02-16-2011, 09:12 PM
#144
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Crestview, FL.
Posts: 533
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1989 IROC-Z, 1979 Malibu Classic
Engine: LSx 5.3
Transmission: MN12 6-speed, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
I remember you talking about keeping emissions, are you going to use the 4th gen cluster in that third gen dash?
Here's why i'm asking:
Here's why i'm asking:
However...the important parts to keep it SMOG legal, are just the electronics from the LS1 dash. You need the cluster because it uses serial data from the PCM for certain functions. Mainly, the EVAP. The PCM uses the fuel level and pressures, then sends serial data to your fuel gauge. You cant have an aftermarket fuel gauge and functioning EVAP...etc etc. Things like that.
Last edited by dynodanmanda79; 02-16-2011 at 09:29 PM.
02-16-2011, 10:24 PM
#145
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: jackson new jersey
Posts: 733
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Car: 1991 camaro vert
Engine: ls1 soon
Transmission: t56 soon
Axle/Gears: moser 12bolt 4.10 soon!
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
no hes ganna have pocket make him a conversion harness..
02-16-2011, 11:12 PM
#147
02-16-2011, 11:47 PM
#148
Supreme Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Osceola Indiana
Posts: 2,151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 92 RS(sold) 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: ones that turn
Re: Blakes LSx swap - pic/vid heavy
