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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 10:55 PM
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Proper order in the universe

At the track Saturday, the "official" track photographer outfit was taking top end pictures instead of the normal burn-out and starting line pics. This was taken during my first time trail with the LS1/T56 car (it was a Stick Shift class race day):




The yellow car behind me (1.1333 seconds behind me, to be exact) was the then-points leader in his stock 5.0. Wish I could say I'm the reason he's no longer the points leader, but we're laddered based on best ET in time trials, and we're both typically on the bottom side (I've been paired with a 9-sec car 1st round of every race this year - I've only lost 1st round once...).
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 04:23 AM
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Re: Proper order in the universe

Very nice......
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 04:51 AM
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Re: Proper order in the universe

Cool. That photographer has a slick 70's early 80's retro magazine look to his post processing that fits perfectly imo. I dig it
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Re: Proper order in the universe

That's a fine looking car. Love the top end shot.
What size rear tire is that?
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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Re: Proper order in the universe

Your Camaro looks very well balanced in that shot; front end up nice and high, shifting the weight to the rear...

What front shocks/springs are you running?

In contrast, the Mustang looks like the nose is down. He either gave up or the car isn't doing what it should be doing!

Good show!
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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Rear tires are 26-10.0x15 MT ET Drags on 8" rims with 4" BS.

Front springs are from the other Berlinetta, which I took out when I swapped the original V6 for a V8. Shocks & struts are plain ol' Monroe Gasmatics.

The Stang didn't "give up" (it was a time trial, and his time was consistent with what he normally runs), but he may have been shifting when the shot was taken.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Re: Proper order in the universe

So the ticket for us budget guys is stock V6 front springs and Monroe Gasmatic shocks?!

That's awesome. How's it do in the curves with that setup?

Anyway, I can see you've got some seat time behind you to set it up so nicely.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Re: Proper order in the universe

Car looks good in front of the stang representing the true meaning of camaro
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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So the ticket for us budget guys is stock V6 front springs and Monroe Gasmatic shocks?!
The V6 front springs made sense, weight-wise. Shocks & struts - well, this one is Monroes because that's what the PO had installed. The other car has Gabriels.

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How's it do in the curves with that setup?
It didn't have a rear sway bar from the factory. I picked one up from a TGO member (from a Trans Am if memory serves - I forget the diameter). The suspension has all poly bushings, BMR panhard bar. On the road, I typically have 4 tires like what you see on the fronts, 225-75x15 hard rubber. It does okay, rides a little rough on the rear end for some reason. But, a couple of times I've put the GS-C's on all 4 corners, and that's a whole different ballgame when it comes to handling.

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I can see you've got some seat time behind you to set it up so nicely.
It wasn't so much seat time as it was paying attention on TGO. I haven't really tweaked it; tried different LCA RB hole locations, without seeing much effect. It basically is what it is.

Here's a launch shot from last month.

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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Re: Proper order in the universe

I know one (or both?) of your cars has jegster torque arm setup is that this one?
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Yes, this one has the non-adjustable Jegster TA. The Quick Performance 9" TA mount makes an adjustable TA a no-go.

The other car has an adjustable tranny-mount BMR TA.
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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Re: Proper order in the universe

Nice...2 nice chevys
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