83 Camaro\95 Caprice LT1\transplant
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To remove the wires from the PCM plugs:
Use a small screwdriver or a pick tool to remove the colored covers from each PCM plug. On the narrow side of each colored cover, you will see a slot on each side with a white locking tab protruding out from it just a little ways. Press the white tab inwards and pull up on the colored cover to release one side, and repeat on the other side to remove the colored cap completely. Be sure to label the plug body before you remove the covers so you can out the correct colored cap back onto the PCM plug it originally came from!!!
Now, on the back of the plug, you can again use a small pick or screwdriver to gently pry the hinged halves apart to open up the rear of the PCM plug. You will see the locking tabs on the back that will need to released to allow you to do this.
Once the front caps are removed and the rear of the PCM plugs are opened up, you can now removed the pins from the plug. To do this, I like to insert a small pick tool I to the hollow end of the pin, and gently pull it toward the outer edge of the PCM plug. This will pull the locking tab outward as well. Hold the locking tab outward, and push the pin back to its original position, and then push it down and out through the rear of the PCM plug.
Use a small screwdriver or a pick tool to remove the colored covers from each PCM plug. On the narrow side of each colored cover, you will see a slot on each side with a white locking tab protruding out from it just a little ways. Press the white tab inwards and pull up on the colored cover to release one side, and repeat on the other side to remove the colored cap completely. Be sure to label the plug body before you remove the covers so you can out the correct colored cap back onto the PCM plug it originally came from!!!
Now, on the back of the plug, you can again use a small pick or screwdriver to gently pry the hinged halves apart to open up the rear of the PCM plug. You will see the locking tabs on the back that will need to released to allow you to do this.
Once the front caps are removed and the rear of the PCM plugs are opened up, you can now removed the pins from the plug. To do this, I like to insert a small pick tool I to the hollow end of the pin, and gently pull it toward the outer edge of the PCM plug. This will pull the locking tab outward as well. Hold the locking tab outward, and push the pin back to its original position, and then push it down and out through the rear of the PCM plug.
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How do I get this gray cover off?
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Thanks to you guys, I understand how to remove the cap that goes directly into the PCM. Now I need to remove the gray cover that protects the back side of the plug wires.
How do I get this gray cover off?
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Thanks to you guys, I understand how to remove the cap that goes directly into the PCM. Now I need to remove the gray cover that protects the back side of the plug wires.
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The grey portion of the connector cannot be removed. The rear where the wires go inside the connector, will split and hinge open though allowing you access to the backside of the connector.
The front colored plastic portion of each connector must be removed as well to completely remove a wire from the connector as well. I'll post pics up when I get home of one dis-assembled, and then my previous post will make sense on how thy come apart.
The front colored plastic portion of each connector must be removed as well to completely remove a wire from the connector as well. I'll post pics up when I get home of one dis-assembled, and then my previous post will make sense on how thy come apart.
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I appreciate your inputs. I'll be waiting anxiously for those pictures.
Next, I'll be asking what some of the leads do and where I should attach them. Thanks again 25th 327RS.
Next, I'll be asking what some of the leads do and where I should attach them. Thanks again 25th 327RS.
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I'll apologize in advance, I can only upload one photo at a time from my phone.
First, press the white locking tab with a screwdriver or pick tool, while pulling upward on the colored cap. Repeat for other side to remove the cap completely
First, press the white locking tab with a screwdriver or pick tool, while pulling upward on the colored cap. Repeat for other side to remove the cap completely
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Wow! Thank you so much for the photos and instructions. The only thing I'm worried about is breaking those little locking tabs. Wish me luck.
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25th327RS….. it worked just like you instructed.
Now I have the wires ID'd. My PCM was running a 4L60E auto tranny and I will be using a manual 6 speed tranny. Will the PCM understand that it is not controlling the auto tranny? Will it set off the check engine soon light?
Now I have the wires ID'd. My PCM was running a 4L60E auto tranny and I will be using a manual 6 speed tranny. Will the PCM understand that it is not controlling the auto tranny? Will it set off the check engine soon light?
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Anybody here reprogram PCMs?
Never mind, I found someone to do it.
Never mind, I found someone to do it.
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UPDATE: We started on the engine. It's in the shop. So far it has been line bored and honed. Next is the boring the cylinders. The shop is waiting for a new honing machine which should be in later this week. The block sure looked better after the washing. After that, we're squaring the block and heads. Then a nice valve job and new springs. I can't wait to get it in the clean room for building.
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Last night I got a great opportunity to watch and help with the boring of the cylinders and squaring the decks. Ken, the machinist, showed us all the measurements required to achieve the (as close as possible) "perfect block." We have pictures to follow. It's one thing to see it on You Tube and quite another to see it for real. I didn't realize that most small block motors are not square due to production line procedures. This is why some cars of identical construction are faster. Very educational night.
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Well it's back to the engine harness. I finally labeled each wire coming out of the PCM. Now I'm tracing each wire back to its plug. I removed all the transmission wires and plan on removing several other systems from the PCM. The grounds and pink wire leads are very easy to follow. I'm hoping that I can run the A/C separate from the PCM as the 83 Camaro didn't have a PCM to run the A/C. This coming week we should be able to get the heads squared and valve seats done along with balancing the springs.
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Did you fix it? If so how? I plan on sending the PCM out for tuning. I hope he can tune the 4l60e stuff out of it.
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After trying to figure out how to get the A/C to work through the 95 PCM, we decided to run the A/C separate from the 95 PCM. I have a bird's nest of wires, but it's slowly slimming down. So far, we plan on using the 95 PCM to run the engine and maybe a few instruments, i.e., tach, check engine light, and the data link. I have the injectors, distributor (opti), coil, O2 sensors, MAP, and knock sensors figured out. This is the hardest part of the engine swap so far.
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Thanks. I didn't think the dealerships would do that. Good to know.
Just thought about this, my PCM is a 95, the last year before OBDII.
Just thought about this, my PCM is a 95, the last year before OBDII.
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Small update. The block is bored and honed to match the pistons. Another wash and it's off to the engine builder to install the cam bearings cam and crank. Before all that we have to put in the crank, connecting rods and pistons to check for clearances. When we get the bottom end done, we'll work the heads and head gaskets to get the desired 10.5 to 1 compression ratio (for pump gas). Once the long block is done, we'll take it home and install all of the accessories on the front end just to make sure everything fits and bolts up correctly. Remember, we're using the Corvette style accessories, i.e., A/C, Alt, power steering, etc. Oh yeah, we have to paint it, too.
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Got the block back. We're smoothing out the sharp edges on the block and we're in line for the builder. We're hoping for this week to finish up the long block. More later.
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Delays, delays, and more delays. The rotating assembly is at the balancing shop. I had to buy a new pressure plate for the balancing to be right on. Some how, I lost my bolt that holds the damper to the crank. Nobody locally had that bolt (not that many LT1s) so I'm waiting for one from Summit. The crank we got for the stroke had a keyway so we had a machine shop cut a keyway in our crank snout. I hope the snout fits. More later.
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We got the rotating assembly balanced. Now it's time to gather all the engine parts and put it together. I need an opti, fuel pump, TB, springs for the heads, and push rods. This project has turned into a life long deal. There are times that I wonder if it will get done. I just keep telling myself one step at a time.
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Man it's like our builds are going the same way! Little bit different route, but progressing roughly at the same rate.
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Now that I'm finished with my kitchen remodel, higher priority ;-{, I'm getting the heads done. We did a 3 angle valve job on the intake valves and 2 angle on the exhaust. Ken, the machinist, taught me how to grind the valves and I did most of them. We're installing bee hive springs which required new locating seats, shims, etc. We went with 137lbs springs as we don't plan on going over 6500 rpm. Next is machining the surface so it is true. I plan on taking a trip up to Mooresville, NC, to PCM4Less and talk to them about my tune. We have a ton of pictures to load up.
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Oh, btw, the balancing went great.
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Getting up to date. We have the bottom end of the engine all together and the heads on. We went excessive on the head gaskets as we decided on the mls s/s gaskets. These should help us achieve the 10.5 to 1 CR. We had to get new pushrods (5/16 x 7.000) to put the roller rocker right in the middle of the valve heads. My engine builder is very particular about these things. He has let my son and I watch everything he's doing. I've learned a lot. When we're done with this project, I'm doing my Vette just like this one. I can see why the dirt track guys here go to him.
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Sorry for the delays. We have the engine all done and it's sitting in the garage all covered up. We also just brought home the rear end which we had new bearings and ring and pinion re adjusted. Now we can add the disc brakes to the assembly. Back to the fuel issues. We're still trying to decide on how to set up a fuel pump. We have the tank out and we have questions. Will a 85-86 TPI fuel pump assembly fit into our 83 fuel tank? If not, we thought about Areomotive's fuel pump set up. Then there is the inline fuel pumps. But you can't forget the 02 plastic tank with a stock innate pump. Any ideas on which way to go?
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I would go with the 02 plastic tank, put a good pump in it and be done. Tank fits right up in the stock location,easy change over to get the lines worked out and to get it to work with the stock fuel gauge. Wont have to worry about a rusty tank ever. For my own reasons have never been a fan of inline pumps.
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I would go with the 02 plastic tank, put a good pump in it and be done. Tank fits right up in the stock location,easy change over to get the lines worked out and to get it to work with the stock fuel gauge. Wont have to worry about a rusty tank ever. For my own reasons have never been a fan of inline pumps.
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Thanks for the link. I sent him a PM.
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Now that I have a good lead on the fuel tank, I'm trying to pick out a sub frame connector set up. These Camaros sit fairly low and I wonder how the connectors affect ground clearance. I guess I'm looking for suggestions on which sub frame connector works the best on these Gen 3s. Looks like the exhaust might be a problem.
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Well I bought drduster's fuel tank. It's a 2002 with the evap on it. Now, does anybody know how or where to hook everything up, except the pressure and return lines? A good diagram would help if anyone has a FSM for a 2002 Camaro or Firebird. I hope delivery will be this week. Also, any ideas or tips on installing it would be appreciated.
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That motor looks really nice. Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like the power steering pump has the smooth side of the belt going on the ridges of the pulley. I don't know if the original way it was set up was like that or anything. Just mentioning it.
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In 92, the LT1 corvettes had a double sided belt. In 93 and newer, they changed the configuration so that a single sided belt would work. GM put out a Tech change to configure the 92 Vettes to a single sided belt. The power steering pulley I have has a smooth side, but looks like it has ridges. It's just the way they made them.
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Now lets talk about motor mounts. I'm using the 83 Camaro K-member and want to know what most guys are using. Do I use the Camaro mounts or the Caprice mounts? Is there a better mount than the OEM mounts?
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Here is the 02 fuel tank:
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Now I need to identify all the lines and wiring. Any help out there? The lines coming out of the fuel pump are easy as they are marked. The middle line out of the fuel pump just goes to a line that connects to the black circular thing that attaches to the tank then goes to the canister. The white circular thing next to the black thing must be a vent as it just goes to an open end hose. One more line, comes out of the canister assembly and has a quick disconnect end on it. Is this going to vacuum? I'll ask about the wiring later. Thanks guys.
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Now I need to identify all the lines and wiring. Any help out there? The lines coming out of the fuel pump are easy as they are marked. The middle line out of the fuel pump just goes to a line that connects to the black circular thing that attaches to the tank then goes to the canister. The white circular thing next to the black thing must be a vent as it just goes to an open end hose. One more line, comes out of the canister assembly and has a quick disconnect end on it. Is this going to vacuum? I'll ask about the wiring later. Thanks guys.
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Good move on the tank! Here is the thread should cover all ya want to know on it.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...k-plastic.html
to get the fuel gauge to read correct you have to install this on the fuel pump hanger , I think its page 2 where they give the part #
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...s1-fuel-2.html
Or you can modify the gauge to work with whats in the tank now
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...auge-40-a.html
Or just leave it as is and always make sure you have gas lol
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...k-plastic.html
to get the fuel gauge to read correct you have to install this on the fuel pump hanger , I think its page 2 where they give the part #
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...s1-fuel-2.html
Or you can modify the gauge to work with whats in the tank now
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...auge-40-a.html
Or just leave it as is and always make sure you have gas lol
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sorry for my complete stupidity but are those the 95 accessory brackets and tensioner? I have no idea. If the 92 lt1 had a double sided belt there would prolly be no smooth pullys on it anywhere?
If the fuel pump is of the same years it should just plug into the ecm and as long as it has power and the right wire it should work right? Fittings and such for the lines and a good seal certainly helps right?
If the fuel pump is of the same years it should just plug into the ecm and as long as it has power and the right wire it should work right? Fittings and such for the lines and a good seal certainly helps right?
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The accessory bracket is the same for 92-96 Corvettes. The only real difference from the 92 to later Vettes is the power steering pump pulley being smooth instead of groved. My accessory package came from a newer C4, not the 92.
The 83 Camaro had a carb and a manual fuel pump on the engine. The 95 LT1 needs an electric fuel pump and pressurized fuel line to the fuel rails. The tank we're using is a 2002 plastic tank with the canister and it's system on the tank. The fuel pump is in the tank. All I need to know is will the 95 LT1 PCM drive the canister purge valve solenoid. If so, I'm set.
The 83 Camaro had a carb and a manual fuel pump on the engine. The 95 LT1 needs an electric fuel pump and pressurized fuel line to the fuel rails. The tank we're using is a 2002 plastic tank with the canister and it's system on the tank. The fuel pump is in the tank. All I need to know is will the 95 LT1 PCM drive the canister purge valve solenoid. If so, I'm set.
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Re: 83 Camaro\95 Caprice LT1\transplant
Well here it is March 2015. This is an update. Today was nice enough to do some cleaning. We cleaned and painted the motor mount towers and clam shells. We picked up a set of poly motor mount inserts. We had to drill out the rivets holding the clam shells together so we could replace the motor mounts. We painted the K-member and put the mounts on the K-member. I made a jig to hold the drive train, (engine and tranny). The purpose of the jig is to be able to move the drive train under the Camaro and let the body down onto the K-member which is holding the engine and tranny. Before we do that, we will be installing the fuel tank and rear end assembly. Yes, we're cutting a hole in the floor board to be able to service the fuel pump if necessary. After that we'll be able to get the rear off the jack stands. Having that beautiful motor sitting in the garage is our motivation to keep at it. More later.
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Car: 92 Vette, 83 Camaro
Engine: 305 going to 95 LT1
Transmission: 5 speed going to T56 6 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi with disc brakes
Re: 83 Camaro\95 Caprice LT1\transplant
Today, I took out the fuel tank in the Caprice to see how it was set up. The other reason I took it out was to see how the fuel lines were connected and run. To my surprise, I saw that the fuel lines were plastic, both pressure and return. The FSM mentioned that if any part of the line is kinked or damaged that the entire fuel line needs to be replaced. Now comes the question. What is the best way to connect fuel lines to my 2002 Trans Am fuel tank/fuel pump assembly and the fuel rail connections? It doesn't appear that you can modify these plastic fuel lines to fit an 83 Camaro. Any ideas as to my options?
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Car: 92 Vette, 83 Camaro
Engine: 305 going to 95 LT1
Transmission: 5 speed going to T56 6 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi with disc brakes
Re: 83 Camaro\95 Caprice LT1\transplant
We took the entire fuel line system out of the Caprice. We can snap the pressure line right to the fuel filter and that connects right to the fuel rail. The problem is the connectors to the fuel pump assembly for the return line. The tank is the plastic quick connects and the return line is the metal connect that you have to use a tool to disconnect. I wish there was a way to remove one connector and replace it with the correct one. I guess it's on to Pure Choice
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