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Old 09-18-2015, 12:22 AM   #301
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On the header question, I still only know of one place to get a set of headers, Dyno Dons. I found out that to have a set made just for my application would be way too much$$$$. I should be able to order the headers next month (Oct). It's always something.
I am still messing with mine, been too busy with work to play with car. I have made 2 custom y pipes to work with my 68460 hedman long tubes. I think my recent pipe works but I give it a 7/10 for my happiness with it. I used 2.5" pipe all around and crushed it down where I needed extra clearance. The pipe and the lowering kit do not go hand in hand. Once I get my new wheels on I will gain another .5", so that will help although I am mostly,satisfied with my ground clearance now (given the circumstance). I will do a full write up on my thread one day. I did post you tube video of exhaust with stock manifolds and y and one of long tubes and homemade y. I know I hear a difference in person, I wonder if people do online? Just search project zzzzzz.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:32 AM   #302
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Yes, I'm still here working on our swap. We will be installing the rear end next.
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:42 PM   #303
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:13 AM   #304
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Lets talk about the torque arm. I'm looking at the tunnel mounted torque arm option. I'm having trouble finding one that can be used with the T56 in my 83 Camaro. I remember seeing a different style that mounts directly to the floorboard tunnel and could be used for any transmission type in our 3rd gens. Any ideas where I might find these ? Thanks guys
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Lets talk about the torque arm. I'm looking at the tunnel mounted torque arm option. I'm having trouble finding one that can be used with the T56 in my 83 Camaro. I remember seeing a different style that mounts directly to the floorboard tunnel and could be used for any transmission type in our 3rd gens. Any ideas where I might find these ? Thanks guys
I think you are talking about the jegster torque arm. I bought one for my swap but decided against putting it on right now. Might stay stock for a while. Possibly have mine for sale.
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Old 03-06-2016, 08:32 AM   #306
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After some research and most of the write ups came from the early 2000's, I found a BMR torque arm tunnel mount cross member and torque arm. Part # TCC016H and TA001H According to the specs, these should work with the T56 and my 83 Camaro. Has anyone used this combo? Is BMR a good company? I'm still open to suggestions or recommendations.
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Old 03-17-2016, 09:11 AM   #307
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I've decided on BMR's suspension torque arm relocation crossmember. Then I'll couple that with BMR's torque arm. I also found sub frame connectors that should be fine for our application from UMI. I'll be taking some pix today of the car with the rear end installed.
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Old 10-06-2016, 05:56 PM   #308
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Sorry about the delays. Today we worked on fitting the 4th gen clutch and brake assembly into the firewall. We had to do a little fabricating to allow the clutch master cylinder to pass thru the firewall. Next is the gas pedal. We are still trying to decide on headers. We have a set of SLPs that came off the 305 that was in the Camaro. The ports are not exactly matching, but at least they don't block anything. Which type of filler or fiber glass is best to use to smooth out the strut towers and other rough areas in the engine compartment?

Anybody still watching?

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From what I've read on headers as long as they are 1 5/8 primaries or bigger you should be fine running them with d-port gaskets. I'm finishing up an LT1 swap out of a caprice right now as well. I'm running cheap headman 1 5/8 and they seem to be good, but have only been through a couple heat cycles so far.

I'm not too experienced with body work, but unless you're planning to add a lot of material then most basic body fillers should probably be fine.

Keep up the good work.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:29 AM   #310
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Thanks for the comeback. I'd love to see your exhaust set up. Any clearance problems?
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Thanks for the comeback. I'd love to see your exhaust set up. Any clearance problems?
No problem. . .I understand how things get drawn out and take longer than you plan with these kinds of project. . although you've done a lot more than me.

I don't have any pics of the exhaust with me, but I don't seem to have any clearance issues. I'm using Hedman 68470 Shorties, with 17478 Y-Pipe. So far the only issue I've had is that I bolted down the headers before connecting the Y-pipe so Pass side was about 1/4" off and took some persuasion for the ball and socket to seat. I also just ended up using an exhaust band clamp to made the y-pipe to the mid pipe. Also I don't remember now if you were keeping AC but the pass side header only has about 1/2" of clearance from the AC heater box so I used some stick on reflective heat shield to hopefully keep from melting the box.

I can take some more pictures when I get home but here is a link to my build thread https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...s-am-4bbl.html

Post #19 and #27 have a couple pictures of the exhaust.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:59 AM   #312
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About the A/C, I went with the 92-96 Corvette style accessory set up. So the exhaust won't be a problem there. We bought a high torque starter that is smaller than the OEM. I hope that helps.
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About the A/C, I went with the 92-96 Corvette style accessory set up. So the exhaust won't be a problem there. We bought a high torque starter that is smaller than the OEM. I hope that helps.
Compressor clearance is definitely tight on the b-body set up. . .the stock b-body ac lines do interfere with the headers, but I was mostly referring to how close pass header is to the evaporator box on the firewall. Since it's plastic I'm very worried about melting it.

If you're keeping AC and use the Hedman headers then that clearance should be the same whether corvette, or b body acc setup. I think I may end up wrapping the headers because I don't trust that the reflective heat shield is going to hold up long term.

Also, for the starter I didn't have any issues with the stock LT1 unit. It's smaller than the stock starter was on my 305.
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Okay, I understand. It's the plastic housing covering the heater core etc. I haven't looked into that clearance. We have a pair of SLP shorties that came off the 305. After we finish off the engine compartment (painting) we'll slide the engine and tranny underneath and see how it fits.
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Okay, I understand. It's the plastic housing covering the heater core etc. I haven't looked into that clearance. We have a pair of SLP shorties that came off the 305. After we finish off the engine compartment (painting) we'll slide the engine and tranny underneath and see how it fits.
Yep. . Here are a couple pictures I just took of the clearance on both sides. I'm guessing you really shouldn't have any fitment issues though. If I remember correctly the SLP's fit much better than these Hedman's. . Lol I think I've read that just about all others are better, but they were cheap.

One thing I have noticed on my swap is that to me it seems like the engine sits forward like 1"+ from what the 305 did . Could be my imagination because everything lines up fine.



You can kind of make out the foil heat shield on the evap box. . . #6 & 8 primaries are the only tight spots, other than the ac lines on the back of compressor with the b-body setup.

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Thank you so much for the pix.

My LT1 had 2 places to mount the motor mounts. In the Caprice, the aft mounts were used. In the Camaro, the forward mounting holes have to be used. Which mounts did you use?
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I just read through this thread to remind myself what we have done so far. It helped as we can plan on where we need to go next on this ordeal. We kept putting things off for so many reasons, but it's time to really get back to business. So, next we are going to finish the firewall and engine compartment. We bought some high strength fiberglass to smooth out all the rough edges around the shock towers. Then it will be scuffing the surfaces of the engine bay for priming and painting. Then we're going to roll the drive train under the car and see how it fits. These are big plans, but they have to get done.
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Thank you so much for the pix.

My LT1 had 2 places to mount the motor mounts. In the Caprice, the aft mounts were used. In the Camaro, the forward mounting holes have to be used. Which mounts did you use?
I did move the mount forward to the correct location before I dropped it in the car. Like I said could be my imagination about sitting further forward. . .or the 30 years worth of crud back of the 305 heads being gone lol.



Awesome that you're getting more focused on the project again. Good luck on the body work and assembly.
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Old 11-25-2016, 04:56 PM   #319
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Put some fiberglass around the shock towers. It needs to cure before we sand it smooth.



This is the stronger glass with small fibers in it.





It will probably use another application. We'll see.
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Hi, I'm back. Here is what we have completed recently. We finished painting the engine compartment and we are very pleased with it. The painting process and preparation was extensive. Pix to follow.

Now we're going to start putting things back on the firewall. This is where all those pictures we took when taking everything off pays off. We are also going to test fit the engine and K member from under the car. This is going to be interesting.
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All primed and ready for color.

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And now the color. This is the color we're painting the car when we get there.







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Nice color. Love me some blue.
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Today was a great day. We put the engine in the Camaro. We used the Raise the car and slide the engine and tranny under and lowered the car onto the K member, engine and tranny. Worked like a charm. Here are a few of the photos:




To be honest, this is just a test fit, but it went in so nicely. Even the cross member lined up.





Had to remove the compressor when lowering the car.



Shows the shifter coming through the original hole.





Motor mounts worked great.



Both sides



this shows that the accessaries from a 95 Vette fit very nicely.
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I know we have been working on this for some time now, but things are picking up now. If anyone is interested, I can show you the "jig" I built to hold the engine and tranny.

After we check a few details and fitments, we'll pull it back out and install the hvac, hydraulic clutch, brakes, wiper motor, and other things on the firewall. Then we'll start with the wiring.
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nice work. I installed one in 86 Camaro like 10 years ago. I eventually swapped the Lt1 in my 81 C-10. Still in there and drives great. Good luck..
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While the engine was in, even the drive shaft from the 95 Camaro fit between the differential and the tranny.

We took the engine back out and now we're installing the HVAC and other firewall items. We put in a new heat exchanger so we won't have to worry about replacing it later. We bought some foam and we're replacing all of the HVAC foam gaskets. I, also, am installing the rest of the engine components like the water pump and ignition wires. I'm having a little problem finding the "steam pipe" gasket washers.

I know there might not be very many guys following this project as we are installing an LT1 (not the more popular LS series motors). But this thread helps us keep track of what we are doing as this project has been going on for several years. I will say we are still having fun working on it. My wife thinks we're nuts.
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If your wife thinks you're nuts then you are doing the project correctly.

Nice build. LT1s don't get enough love.
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Today was a big step. We installed the clutch and brake pedal assembly with the hydraulic clutch system and brake booster and brake master cylinder. Going from a third gen pedal assembly to the fourth gen was not without adjustments and fabrication. If anyone is having problems trying to figure out where to install the hydraulic master cylinder in the fire wall, we did too. After lots of trying to measure and test fit we found that the 4th gen pedal assembly has a bracket that has the holes for the U-bolt that holds the clutch master cylinder to the firewall. Once you put the pedal assembly in place you can simply mark the 2 holes and cut out for the cylinder to come through the firewall. The pictures that follow should help explain what I'm talking about.






This shows the booster and master cylinder which is for the four wheel disc brakes.



This is the clutch master cylinder under the booster.



I tried to get a shot of the pedal assembly. Notice the notch in the steering column bracket. the 4th gen clutch pedal hit the bracket and we had to clearance it. No biggie. I will say this pedal assembly is much stronger than the 3rd gen set up.



more from under the dash



shows the location of the clutch master cylinder.





Better view of the U-bolt that holds the master cylinder to the firewall.
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I'm working on the engine now. Just installing the water pump, spark plug wires and then I was going to put in the injectors and fuel rail, but I CAN'T FIND MY FUEL RAIL ASSEMBLY.
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Found my fuel rail assembly.

Today we welded the holes in the headers that were for the AIR system. Just a small step but it's something. Now we can have them ceramic coated.
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