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Old Oct 26, 2020 | 02:53 PM
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Round 2 ?

Need to get a tune bad !

Found a lower boot that'll work better than the nothing that wasn't there.
what boot?
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 06:22 AM
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what boot?
It's a cheap china piece I found in a local speed shop. Didn't have a part number on it.
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 11:35 AM
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It's a cheap china piece I found in a local speed shop. Didn't have a part number on it.
got ya. Did the firehawks have a boot there?
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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Just the corvette ZF boot parts that bolt to the top of the shifter. From what I remember
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 01:47 PM
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Just the corvette ZF boot parts that bolt to the top of the shifter. From what I remember
that’s what I figured.
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 01:49 PM
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It didn't seal very well and let a lot of heat through which is why I added this one
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 02:42 PM
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It didn't seal very well and let a lot of heat through which is why I added this one
wonder if the actual firehawks have this issue too
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by firebirddude142
wonder if the actual firehawks have this issue too
The ones I've driven and ridden in, yes.
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 08:45 PM
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The ones I've driven and ridden in, yes.
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Old Mar 8, 2021 | 08:08 PM
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Had some time on sunday and opened up the diff because the cover silicone/cover had a slight drip.
Confirmed 3.54 posi and diff lube was starting to jell up. Glad I opened it up and cleaned it out.
Also took pictures of all the random casting numbers and stampings














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I have been using teflon paste and a gasket for a long time. For me, it has proved to work better than just silicone.





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It’s really looking like a junkyard over there. Let me take some of that worthless scrap from you. 😆
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Old Mar 8, 2021 | 08:31 PM
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3.54s? Man I didn't find anything that made sense on mine just ring gear thoughts? Mine was 3.54s too


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2.73s ?
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Originally Posted by zman1969
3.54s? Man I didn't find anything that made sense on mine just ring gear thoughts? Mine was 3.54s too

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, heck it could be stampings from the tube suppliers.
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Old Mar 9, 2021 | 07:49 AM
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How much fluid did yours take to fill it back up, including the bottle of friction modifier?
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Old Mar 9, 2021 | 09:46 AM
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How much fluid did yours take to fill it back up, including the bottle of friction modifier?

Honestly not sure, I have a pump on a 5 gallon bucket of lube. I just fill the diff till it dribbles out.
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How much fluid did yours take to fill it back up, including the bottle of friction modifier?
Depends where fill plug is usually 2 quarts a lot of dana 44 have high fill plugs when they are pointed up on a lifted vehicle - I put 1 quart in then modifier, then topped it off was almost 2 quarts
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IT is still taking too long....
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 11:27 PM
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A very boring update
Stumbled on a NOS GM day 2 serp belt so now I can save the old crusty assembly line one for whatever..

Original assembly line belt


GM replacement, stll old but much better than the original belt.




For those crazy enough to want a old semi correct belt.

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Re: "it" has begun....

Originally Posted by TTOP350
A very boring update
Stumbled on a NOS GM day 2 serp belt so now I can save the old crusty assembly line one for whatever..

Original assembly line belt


GM replacement, stll old but much better than the original belt.




For those crazy enough to want a old semi correct belt.
What’s the difference between the two?
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 01:19 PM
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The font used on the belt lettering and numbers. Other than that, it's a bit newer. And yeah, I'm a bit weird. I just like finding these oddball things.
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Spent some time in garage sat working on ttop, a bunch of friends came over and we had a killer time. Hope to be getting back on this soon
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when I look at the subjects of that picture I realize that we store rear ends the same way pretty much I even have few mounted on the wall too you have build thread on blue car or is it another 2OTL car with dual air intake, Tri-Y's ?
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when I look at the subjects of that picture I realize that we store rear ends the same way pretty much I even have few mounted on the wall too you have build thread on blue car or is it another 2OTL car with dual air intake, Tri-Y's ?
That's my friend Joe's 91 formula 350. Has the wheels, cold air and catback on the car. Has a few more things to put on it yet.
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so.... what's status of "IT"? You ever get it running right or just replacing belts on it, your such a tease...I mean, ahh, I'm ready to make the trip and get co-pilot status
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so.... what's status of "IT"? You ever get it running right or just replacing belts on it, your such a tease...I mean, ahh, I'm ready to make the trip and get co-pilot status
Just a few small things here and there (latest is "correct" simpson belts for the seats). Have had a little distraction and summer family time soooo the cars are on back burner a bit.
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Just a few small things here and there (latest is "correct" simpson belts for the seats). Have had a little distraction and summer family time soooo the cars are on back burner a bit.
your welcome for the harnesses!
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your welcome for the harnesses!
thanks B-man, they made it safe and sound. A good cleaning with a slight mod to one set and will be good to go!
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thanks B-man, they made it safe and sound. A good cleaning with a slight mod to one set and will be good to go!
glad I could help!
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A few quick pictures from the 2021 T/A Nats. Will post a few more later. I haven't really done anything to it since before the last show in 19' . crazy how time flies.

Easy way to move the TTA pedal car to the trailer!




Jim Mattison Pontiac historical services (PHS)






Reg Harris, Pontiac, PAS and SLP marketing


Yes, I clean my plate before I go out and play every time.


And the kiddo photo

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Some slight bad news though, the factory heater core decided it has had enough and started leaking. Noticed it when I was putting car away tonight. Good thing I have a NOS one ready to go.
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would sure love to take that one in one of these days......
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Didn't know you were going this year Tony. Cool autographs!

I follow the Nats facebook page. 494 for turnout this year...event record is 525, set back in 2001. Doesn't seem like this event is going away any time soon! If the border was open, this might have been a record year.

I already spoke with my wife about going next year.
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Re: "it" has begun....

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A few quick pictures from the 2021 T/A Nats. Will post a few more later. I haven't really done anything to it since before the last show in 19' . crazy how time flies.

Easy way to move the TTA pedal car to the trailer!







Reg Harris, Pontiac, PAS and SLP marketing
Saw your car there, but no you, wanted to say hello. Hope all is well, great show, fantastic 3rd Gen turn out this year!
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Finally getting around to resealing the old R4 compressor. To my surprise it still had a very very very little bit of psi in it but it was leaking oil like it has the clap.




Sometimes it's not pretty to get things apart but need to make it happen. Just need a slight bit of psi to get the shell to move and then it just slides off. (It's not pressing on the clutch coil)



Apart and getting cleaned up for the new seals. The outer shell O ring is what was leaking oil.

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HMM never saw inside if damn R4 before, yuk!! never liked them once it took 3 Delco's till got one that didnt leak on wifey's suburban but some were OK orig on my 87 impressed me - lasted 100+K and blew ice cubes out the vents your braver than I am resealing one! woulda gave the beers logo but thats not option - (note to Mods- can we get some better Emoji's? )
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Glad you are doing this Tony. Despite this compressor being unpopular, I planned to reseal mine too.

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Originally Posted by DynoDave43
Glad you are doing this Tony. Despite this compressor being unpopular, I planned to reseal mine too.
For the record, I'm not sure if this one is "good" or not, all the bearings look good and no scuffing in the 4cyls so going to take a shot with it.
Most everyone says if you have a good fairly quiet stock unit, keep and use it. The parts store rebuilds are hit/miss. Not a huge fan of the look of most other options either.

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Old Sep 21, 2021 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TTOP350
For the record, I'm not sure if this one is "good" or not, all the bearings look good and no scuffing in the 4cyls so going to take a shot with it.
Most everyone says if you have a good fairly quiet stock unit, keep and use it. The rebuilds are hit/miss. Not a huge fan of the look of most other options either.
Why are the rebuilds hit and miss?
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Why are the rebuilds hit and miss?
High failure rates for one reason or another. From what I've seen and read (very small sample of the world though soooo).
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Had to dig out a NOS pulley and clutch. The original was shot from oil on it and being old



Going back together with new seals. Didn't even have to remove the coil on the snout


NOS, bearing/pulley. Cleaned up that rust a bit b4 it went together.


New clutch has 3 holes for a spanner wrench to grab on to. Old one doesn't, there goes a few more points at the pebble beach show.



Back together with all new seals. Even put a bunch more throughout the system, think I got them all. Will vac it down soon. Hope to get to the heater core this week.

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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 10:22 PM
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Can’t go wrong with nos parts!
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Old Sep 27, 2021 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TTOP350

New clutch has 3 holes for a spanner wrench to grab on to. Old one doesn't, there goes a few more points at the pebble beach show.
Pebble Beach - Giggle
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Old Sep 28, 2021 | 07:23 PM
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As soon as the front seal starts leaking again, those 3 holes will be filled with filth in no time. Problem solved.

Juts kidding. Nice work!
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 02:32 PM
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Heater core swapped out in 1hr, 50mins. Took my time and cleaned a few things up while in there too. Not sure why people dread them so much.
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Started at 11:38 finished at 1:30pm


​​​​​​Core out in 20 mins


91F Date code ?





NOS core is from 89


Tubes are the same, picture angle makes them look off a bit. Judging by how small the corrosion is, we caught this leaky guy fairly early.


Side by side, again, tubes are the same.

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Made a quick 13hr rocket run yesterday for a nice (but dirty) set of original Ronal R15s with maybe 50 miles and newish set of Mickey Thompson rubber.
Was looking for a nice set to do in yellow so I wouldn't have to paint the red ones, even though SLP painted over the red for the color cars.
Hoping to have the center caps, wheels, hood and front bumper painted for some shows and burnouts this year.



The Ronal center caps have a SLP decal on them put on by the owner. The Goodyear F1s were from a crashed low mile 99SS. Owner put the tires/wheels on the car, drove around the block and it has sat ever since. He was guessing at least 15 years.

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Old Jan 18, 2022 | 08:45 PM
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Nice score! Sucks burning time to do it, but that's the part of the price when you find a deal on rare parts.
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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 09:20 PM
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I am still looking for another set for my son's car.
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Originally Posted by Chris 84TA
I am still looking for another set for my son's car.
I'm on a waiting list for my first set - almost 3 years now and that's for Repops!
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