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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 10:44 PM
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Anyone else do dumb stuff like putting the paint marks back on parts after a cleanup?
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Old Jul 7, 2019 | 10:28 AM
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Anyone else do dumb stuff like putting the paint marks back on parts after a cleanup?
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yes only if the part is replaced, otherwise I try to leave existing in place when possible. love that book setup!
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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 09:02 AM
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Where else would you keep your parts catalogs?



Yes on the marks for sure, where and when I can.
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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 10:10 AM
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That's awesome (and clean lol) I need a much bigger one, Maybe 2 of those for all my dang books!
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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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Geeze, I'm embarrassed now. I think I spot some Mopars in there. Whaaaaattt?????
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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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The PDF is a lifesaver. I have a ton of books on the shelves, but most of the time I'll go to a digital copy first since it's easier to deal with. Not to mention when it's looking up something for the forum, it's easier to screenshot than to move whatever books or parts are stacked on top of the scanner... I do wish I had the time and dedication to scan all the hard copy materials into PDFs so I could get rid of the clutter. And that the 3-ring binders were easier on the P&I catalogs. A proper manual stand like that would be nice, but if I had the counter space, I'd have room for a blasting cabinet I'd use a lot more. Hmm...

I almost forgot the obligatory... Nice Racks!
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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 05:51 PM
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That's awesome (and clean lol) I need a much bigger one, Maybe 2 of those for all my dang books!
Well, there's one set of catalogs that can go away...I sold the car a couple of years ago. With that, and the empty space left, I have room for growth! Built that little shelf off the wall just to hold it.

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I think I spot some Mopars in there. Whaaaaattt?????
LOL...yes, Mopars were my first love. I still have a '70 Plymouth Duster slant 6 (first car), a '72 Dodge Charger Rallye with 340, and a '77 Chrysler Cordoba, triple black with 400 (been in the family since new). All are projects, which at the pace I'm moving, will be retirement projects.

The GM diehards here won't like to hear me say it, but I find a similar spirit between Pontiac and Mopar...always had to be creative, get by with less, be it engineering resources, development budgets, advertising...wild colors, Road Runner Vs. Judge, that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by Drew
...I'll go to a digital copy first since it's easier to deal with. Not to mention when it's looking up something for the forum, it's easier to screenshot than to move whatever books or parts are stacked on top of the scanner.

I almost forgot the obligatory... Nice Racks!
See, I find the paper easier to use. Just out of the photo to the right is a microfiche reader, if that makes me slightly less old-timey?

Electronic IS easier for posting...can't argue with that.

There used to be a place north of me...old guy, pole building full of "stuff". I'd been in a few times to have my LP gas bottles filled by him, but didn't know any of his history. Turns out after the riots in Detroit in '67, he sold his auto parts store, and got the heck outta Dodge. Moved 50+ miles north, and built this building. It was loaded with everything he pulled out of his old parts store. After he passed, I bought a few odds and ends items at the estate auction, and that parts book rack was among the items. Cleaned it up, repainted it, added new lighting, and put it back to work. Even have a pad of carbonized business rcpts. from his old place. Ahhh, memories.
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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 10:49 PM
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Re: "it" has begun....

Originally Posted by DynoDave43
There used to be a place north of me...old guy, pole building full of "stuff". I'd been in a few times to have my LP gas bottles filled by him, but didn't know any of his history. Turns out after the riots in Detroit in '67, he sold his auto parts store, and got the heck outta Dodge. Moved 50+ miles north, and built this building. It was loaded with everything he pulled out of his old parts store. After he passed, I bought a few odds and ends items at the estate auction, and that parts book rack was among the items. Cleaned it up, repainted it, added new lighting, and put it back to work. Even have a pad of carbonized business rcpts. from his old place. Ahhh, memories.
That's the kind of thing a person aspires to, leaving behind a treasure trove of goodies. Unfortunately I think I fall more into the hoarder category. I've started bagging and labeling my garbage, both to make things easier for me to remember, and to aid whoever should have to deal with it, if I'm not around to explain what something is, or why I held onto it.
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Old Jul 10, 2019 | 08:29 AM
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if I'm not around to explain what something is, or why I held onto it.
I started putting prices on stuff too, lol. I had my cousin over one day (he's my beneficiary) and he was like "I would just throw all this stuff away". I pointed to the box with the internals for my 8.5" 10 bolt and said that box alone was like $1,000
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 04:20 PM
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Anyone have a good spare N10 cat to transmission exhaust hanger they want to sell ? Auto or manual will work
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 11:04 PM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Center link and endlinks aren't detailed yet.


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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 10:22 PM
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Only one word works here Tony.... amazing. If you love these cars, this is where it's at.
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 11:00 PM
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In the garage with a (can of) stripper. Got it mostly down to factory Ecoating. It had some previous paint work. Bet I took off one lb of paint./primer Hope it'll be yellow by weekend or early next week.
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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 05:48 AM
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I can't wait to see it all together in person.
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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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Hey Tone, its looking great so far! what will, you tell us about "IT" or the car itself? I know it's really about the FH "option" your adding but the underside of that car looks like a grandma 10,000 mile car wish I could see it in person - Awesome baby
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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 08:53 PM
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Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Looking for a SLP intermediate pipe like in the picture. It's specific for 91.5 to 92 N10 cars.
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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 08:58 PM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Originally Posted by zman1969
Hey Tone, its looking great so far! what will, you tell us about "IT" or the car itself? I know it's really about the FH "option" your adding but the underside of that car looks like a grandma 10,000 mile car wish I could see it in person - Awesome baby
The car came from a dealer down in Louisiana, it was ordered as a demonstrator to showcase the SLP package from what I understand. Then it spent some time in OK where it was stolen at some point, seats robbed out of it, broke rear wing and a few other small things but no real major damage. I honestly haven't even looked at the miles on the car since I got it 9-10? yrs ago but I'm sure it's over 100k .
I'll try and spruce this up later.. have a car to get finished! lol
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 06:46 AM
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Have the AC on in garage so the bare aluminum won't rust ;-)
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 07:46 AM
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 08:51 AM
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down here in Texas heat/humidity you would have brought it into the house. maybe even snuggled up with it at night
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 03:23 PM
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down here in Texas heat/humidity you would have brought it into the house. maybe even snuggled up with it at night
AC in my shop! momma wont let me work on cars in the house and Illinois is getting same heat as we are this week - alot of the country is

so how light is the alum hood?
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 07:36 PM
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Have the AC on in garage so the bare aluminum won't rust ;-)
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Really...that's the story you are going with?

Don't blame you a bit...too damn hot and humid for a lot of shop time, at least to me.
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 09:35 PM
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It's 65 degs in my garage, which is cooler than our house lol Also have a dehumidifier running too.

The hood weighs ballpark 20lbs. Maybe less now with paint stripped, that's with no hinges on it.

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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 09:44 PM
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Can you show the aluminum stamp?
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Old Jul 20, 2019 | 08:11 AM
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Can you show the aluminum stamp?
I can show a picture of one but for some oddball reason, this hood doesn't have the "A" on the bottom side. I've even asked Jim Mattison and a few others about it. We can only guess as to why it doesn't. The other 2 aluminum hoods I had did have an A on the bottom.
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Old Jul 20, 2019 | 07:40 PM
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That's interesting
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Old Jul 22, 2019 | 05:10 PM
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Getting better, couple more tweaks and I'll be happy with the shape. Won't be perfect but pretty close..
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Old Jul 23, 2019 | 10:25 AM
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Fuel system details coming together.
Several different ways certain parts were made here but I'm going off how the last several cars were built.


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Originally Posted by TTOP350

Getting better, couple more tweaks and I'll be happy with the shape. Won't be perfect but pretty close..
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Excellent work as always.

So the extra width...what goes in the space to the right of the shifter? Change tray? Cup holders? A cast plaque celebrating your Gold status in the Society of Automotive Perfectionists?
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Old Jul 23, 2019 | 10:06 PM
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Excellent work as always.

So the extra width...what goes in the space to the right of the shifter? Change tray? Cup holders? A cast plaque celebrating your Gold status in the Society of Automotive Perfectionists?
Thanks, lol May set up a mini beer pong table or maybe a place to hang my long hair...…
But seriously the E-brake handle takes up some of the space on the right side.

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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 10:39 AM
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Fuel system details coming together
Can you please make more of those fuel lines and sell them? Asking for a friend 😂😂😂
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 01:52 PM
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Can you please make more of those fuel lines and sell them? Asking for a friend 😂😂😂
On the list...
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 11:06 PM
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Amazing work!

Just a question out of curiosity, and sorry if i missed it on another page in the thread...but why with all the NOS and other original parts going on this car, did you opt for a custom made center console? Not that I think there is anything wrong or bad about it, just curious as to the thought behind it over buying an original one.
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Amazing work!

Just a question out of curiosity, and sorry if i missed it on another page in the thread...but why with all the NOS and other original parts going on this car, did you opt for a custom made center console? Not that I think there is anything wrong or bad about it, just curious as to the thought behind it over buying an original one.
I’ll throw my two cents in and venture to say that there’s no way you would ever find this part? Not sure if the was any over stock on consoles for these year Firehawks but I’d guess there are about 27 or so of these out there, and all are still where they left the factory

Is this a factory console that’s been cut and modified I take it? I was always curious how they pulled this off considering the rest of the console looks almost like standard ones. This is going to be one cool car when done!
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 06:36 AM
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Thanks for the compliments !
Doing the same thing with the fuel lines and adapters, can't find the parts, build em.
After the factory console was murdered, SLP then installed their "insert" for the ZF swap on top of what was left of the factory console. There are a couple of FH console designs SLP used that are way different in materials and fit/finish. This is the most common one used..
It's pretty basic really and I've built this one from several pictures I've taken over the years so it'll be close to the shape SLP had but not 100% spot on. I could even use the factory 5speed console like the press car if I wanted but where's the fun in that?
Going at it this way because I have only found 1 SLP center console since i've been searching. Missed out on the deal by a little bit, still hoping I wind up with it some day so until/if that ever happens, i'll have this one.

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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 07:51 AM
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Ahhh that makes sense now. So your essentially trying to build your own factory SLP console due to lack of availability. I just thought it was a custom whatever you wanted job, not a custom replica of factory.

That actually makes it a lot cooler. Cant find the part, build the part!
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Shock, strut, swaybar centercap decals


SLP supplied gaskets and bolts


Battery box parts coming together

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In case anyone was wondering
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Dug out a few NOS SLP decals I've had forever.
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Is that the O2 sensor on the driver’s lower header collector?
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Is that the O2 sensor on the driver’s lower header collector?
Yes it is.
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Dug out a few NOS SLP decals I've had forever.
Toe-knee, do you know if they repro the SLP equipped stickers? It'd be nice if you could scan before install I'd like one and I have good friend that could repro them at his print shop?? loving the build!
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Toe-knee, do you know if they repro the SLP equipped stickers? It'd be nice if you could scan before install I'd like one and I have good friend that could repro them at his print shop?? loving the build!
That would be awesome! I'd love to have a repro of that sticker.
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Fuel lines bent up! Only broke 1 tubing bender.. edit, make that 2.

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Looks real nice, now bend me a set lmao
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In case anyone was wondering
Great pic, Tony!
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Fuel lines bent up! Only broke 1 tubing bender.. edit, make that 2.
You using one of those short handle, 3 tube size, benders on stainless?
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