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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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very nce man, thats good for a 305. i dropped my car off last night to get the roll bar welded in. Drove it an hour or so to get there and the car i think got decent mileage Not sure how much i used tho, but it was 42 miles or so.

Should have the car back by monday night or tuesday night depending. Trying to race next weekend here

My dad said we couldn't go this weekend anyways because he's trying his hand at bodywork (followed by working on the camaro for a few hours). However, he said we're going up next weekend for sure. Are yo going saturday or sunday? Whatever day you go, I'll be there. We're also going to switch seat time if we can (is that allowed) so we get a baseline with me (crappy driver.. so i guess it's guaging my skill also) and with a very experienced driver (my dad, who swears he has driven over 2 million miles in his life. Can only prove alittle over 1mill though )



So, in short, I'll be there next weekend. Whatever day you (you all) are going up. Shooting for 15.5 @ about 90 personally, and my dad said he thinks he could nail a low 15. We'll see. I really don't know what has been done to the car because the engine and tranny are out of an 87, but he thinks it may be running alittle healthier than stock. We'll see!!
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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I would like to be there next weekend as well. Not sure if i'll bring my bird after the way it acted at the flashlight drags. We'll see. Maybe i'll play with the timing a little and see what happens.
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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i didnt realize they are doing both days, i may go both. one day for nitrous and one day for n/a to see how low i can get on motor.

I'll have a cage by then so i can let it rip and be legal

I would like to be there next weekend as well. Not sure if i'll bring my bird after the way it acted at the flashlight drags. We'll see. Maybe i'll play with the timing a little and see what happens.
bring it out and i'll bring my laptop with scanner cable to see whats goin on. If you could, try to order a moates G1 chip adapter with chips for 55 bucks and i'll set you up with some tunes to see if that helps
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Re: PIttsburgh

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very nce man, thats good for a 305. i dropped my car off last night to get the roll bar welded in. Drove it an hour or so to get there and the car i think got decent mileage Not sure how much i used tho, but it was 42 miles or so.

Should have the car back by monday night or tuesday night depending. Trying to race next weekend here
Just out of curiousity, who is doing your roll bar?
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Jeff down at 1st Try Engineering. Its a competition engineering 8 pt kit that he's gonna install for me. May be done monday night
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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I'll be there one day next week. Like i said, both me and my dad going to be running a pass or 2 at least. he wants to bring some basic tools to see if we can get anything out of it before the swap! I'll see at least one of you there..


I'm shooting for saturday but if Orr's cage isnt done till sunday ill try sunday.
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Cool. How many chips would you recommend and are these the ones?
http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...products_id=39
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I didn't see the kit at first. Those are the chips it comes with. That would be cool. I might be able to get them but not sure it they would be here by the end of the week. All i can do is try. If not then i can still play later. It would be nice to know whats up with the cam thats in the car.

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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...products_id=41

thats the chip socket adapter that comes with two of those chips. thats what i have and it works great
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Ok, adapter kit ordered. Will be shipped ups ground to the shop. I figure it should be here before friday.

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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Anyone going tomorrow to Irwin? I might go but if I do the car won't be there.

Just got hired today so she'll be cool now.
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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tomorrow is sunday, do theyhave a show tomorrow?
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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I don't see anything on carcruises.com. I'm up in new wilmington this weekend anyway so I probably wont be headed that way.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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yeah I'm not making it to any meets with the car. Maybe without... but somethings ****ed up. I think I lost an injector... or I dont know. Stupid car is getting fuel up to the rail, but she will not start.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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My bad. I thought today was saturday lol.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Re: PIttsburgh

Originally Posted by Z2EIGHT
My bad. I thought today was saturday lol.
lol its ok.


So, all in all, who's up for PRP next weekend (Saturday or Sunday). It'd be nice to see all your guys cars racing down the strip instead of sitting in the parking lots. Maybe we can even get a few drivers races in.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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i know its a week away but calling 60% chance of rain sunday thats not too good but its still early to tell

I'm shooting for saturday. I got alot of good work done today on the interior panels, but still have a few more things to do. I should have the interior in by saturday but if not i'll leave out what i cant get done
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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i know its a week away but calling 60% chance of rain sunday thats not too good but its still early to tell

I'm shooting for saturday. I got alot of good work done today on the interior panels, but still have a few more things to do. I should have the interior in by saturday but if not i'll leave out what i cant get done
OK i'll be there saturday. I'll probably try and stay the whole 11-4. I just earned some money to fill the camaro up and we'll head out. Though i may put half the fuel in cans instead of the tank so i can save some weight at the track
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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now 70% chance saturday and some rain chance on sunday... uh oh!!
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
now 70% chance saturday and some rain chance on sunday... uh oh!!
Thats not good. How much is it to run anyway? I couldnt find any info on their site. Adapter and chips should be here thursday.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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25 bucks now...it sucks. used to be 15 then 20 and now 25
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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!!!


It's ok, i got time sunday too. We'll play it by year/ear i guess. My gas isn't going to evaporate away in an extra 24 hrs


You should come down hotrod. I know $25 seems like alot just to go down the track, but it's for 5 hours, so its $5 an hour, and that seems like pretty cheap to be in good company with good cars having fun! (plus it'll probably cost more for food for 2-3 ppl than for the entry!) lol



quick question Orr, it's $25 per car correct? So say, if my dad wants to race he can just hope in and line up??
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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yes

25 to race a car, doesnt matter who drives. But one of you has to pay spectator fee of 7 bucks
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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yes

25 to race a car, doesnt matter who drives. But one of you has to pay spectator fee of 7 bucks


soo. He has to pay $7 for either or (either me or him) to watch while the other drives?? If he is driving do i have to go all the way up to the stands and all the way back or can i kinda hand around the line up area??? I have only been to PRP once and I have never raced before.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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I plan on being there. I planned for saturday but, if it rains, sunday is still open. I've done the 1/8th but haven't run the 1/4 yet so i'm anxious to see what it will do. I predict 13.90 if I can figure out the strange pinging when going into 3rd. I'm waiting for a friend to bring over his timing light so I can double check the timing.

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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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yeah when you pull in, they will charge the passenger 7 bucks for spectating and you 25 for racing. But he can race as well or even BOTH of you can go down the track at the same time. BUT one of you drives and the other is just watching either way so they charge spectator fee.

your free to go where ever you please once you get in. check out the place. go in the drag pits, or just hang out in the street section

hotrod, definately check timing and let me know. I'll bring my scan stuff and burner and we'll go from there.

I'll pop in my old L98 tune to see if that helps. If there is a cam in there it may be off alittle but that tune did run abit rich with stock injectors so it may lean out nicely with a mild cam
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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yeah when you pull in, they will charge the passenger 7 bucks for spectating and you 25 for racing. But he can race as well or even BOTH of you can go down the track at the same time. BUT one of you drives and the other is just watching either way so they charge spectator fee.

your free to go where ever you please once you get in. check out the place. go in the drag pits, or just hang out in the street section

hotrod, definately check timing and let me know. I'll bring my scan stuff and burner and we'll go from there.

I'll pop in my old L98 tune to see if that helps. If there is a cam in there it may be off alittle but that tune did run abit rich with stock injectors so it may lean out nicely with a mild cam
Interesting. I may take the video camera down on the first run with dad inside (filming) just as a memory kinda thing. My first race yanno?
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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if my dad comes out and videos i'll tell him to get all the thirdgens he sees so we'll have a video either way

This is the last weekend so i'm shooting for best times. I may try to go full launch on spray to see if my 10 bolt is as lucky as 87 TA's and cut some low 1.4 60's and shoot for low mid 10's IF it hooks. I havent really lately but i got new ET streets so the rubber is good
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if my dad comes out and videos i'll tell him to get all the thirdgens he sees so we'll have a video either way

This is the last weekend so i'm shooting for best times. I may try to go full launch on spray to see if my 10 bolt is as lucky as 87 TA's and cut some low 1.4 60's and shoot for low mid 10's IF it hooks. I havent really lately but i got new ET streets so the rubber is good
I'd be happy to get you a second angle on that run. If you blow, you got 2 angles of amusing (if not expensive) rear-end scattering, and if you set a new record you have 2 views.

You going to run like a 10th tank of gas for your record runs? Every bit counts!
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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nope but i dont think i'm gonna have my carpet and interior in the car. thats gonna almost offset the cage weight

I'm rethinking my plans on my interior. I get the car back tmorrow so i'll quickly lay things out tomorrow and thurs to see how its gonna look. If i dont agree lol i'll not have the interior in and just see how it goes
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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does anyone live in bellevue?, i have been seeing quite a few thirdgens in the area lately, almost every day i see a red rs on my way to school, and i seen a white bird on a side street.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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does anyone live in bellevue?, i have been seeing quite a few thirdgens in the area lately, almost every day i see a red rs on my way to school, and i seen a white bird on a side street.
I live on Duff rd above the Dixmont site. My bird is blue/silver. One of the guys I work with has a green 92 bird and lives in Avalon. Not sure who the others are. Nobody I know anyway.

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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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nope but i dont think i'm gonna have my carpet and interior in the car. thats gonna almost offset the cage weight

I'm rethinking my plans on my interior. I get the car back tmorrow so i'll quickly lay things out tomorrow and thurs to see how its gonna look. If i dont agree lol i'll not have the interior in and just see how it goes

are you staying with the red interior or changing it?
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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some red in the interior but not 100% finalized. i'll decide tomorrow, but alot has become black
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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I think the official call is to head up sunday. tomorrow is a wash because of 100% chance of rain. Sunday only has 10% though, and conditions look really good. Should be a great day for racing.


Also, Orr, i heard sunday is "windy" with 20 MPH wind from the SW, so lets pray the track point NE (no clue really).
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Yeah, looks like sunday is the day. Damn rain.
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Re: PIttsburgh

Originally Posted by hotrod16105
Yeah, looks like sunday is the day. Damn rain.
It's ok in my book. I'll do some preliminary tuning tomorrow. Plus when i got back just now i noticed my left front is going soft on me! i don't know if i ran something over or not but i don't have a spare on hand. Maybe the extra day is a blessing.
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Sunday will be the day, i WILL be there

And no, the track i believe is more south. 22 goes east/west and the track points south unfortunately
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
Sunday will be the day, i WILL be there

And no, the track i believe is more south. 22 goes east/west and the track points south unfortunately
I was thinking it was SE, but either way no tailwind for us!!


Oh well.. How many passes you think we'll get in tomorrow?
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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now that everyone is going that would have went saturday, i think it will be pretty busy and maybe 4 passes if no one breaks down.

they will be open NOV 1 next weekend so thats good
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Re: PIttsburgh

Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
now that everyone is going that would have went saturday, i think it will be pretty busy and maybe 4 passes if no one breaks down.

they will be open NOV 1 next weekend so thats good

That sucks lol.. i wanted to get at least 5 in!

and i have a feeling at least one car will be breaking.. Imma call a shattered rear-end sometime tomorrow.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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sure enough ppl broke. whole hour gone

oh well here your vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFw0qDubjw4
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Re: PIttsburgh

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sure enough ppl broke. whole hour gone

oh well here your vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFw0qDubjw4
I'm almost too embarrassed to watch my crappy passes. I'm freaking turning the end of my street into a launch pad. I refuse to be embarrassed like that again.


but on the other side, imma go watch! I hope i can see what you 3 ran on your last runs!
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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what was everyones best times? wish i could have been there.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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what was everyones best times? wish i could have been there.
see siggy for mine, although i let my dad drive for that run because i was missing shifts like a b****. I've never had that problem before, but then again i was never slamming em as fast as possible..

btw orr, my dad thinks the car had maybe a half second left in it with a good launch and driving it harder. I was shifting at maybe 4750 on that second run where i picked up a second in the last 1/8th, but he was shifting at 5500 and picked up another little bit in that second 1/8th, plus the 6 MPH. I think i may try next weekend too and shift at like 5100, along with being careful off the start. I think it's doable.


I think orrs best was a 10.72 at like 126 when i left, but as you can see in his next post, he bested that! and i think hotrod ran 14.1 or 14.2 at whatever.

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10.63 for me

hmm 5100+ rpm seems overkill but give it what it likes
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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10.63 for me

hmm 5100+ rpm seems overkill but give it what it likes
Well we still don't know exactly if its a factory cam. Plus the tachs off 250 so 5100 is actually 4850.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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oh ok, i know a Lb9 with the L98 cam should be good to 4500-4600 rpm peak power and would like 5000 rpm shift to start. My L98 did 5000 shifts and ran ok.

best bet would be to go to pittsburgh and dyno it for 50 bucks 3 pulls. get a good idea but if your doing a build this winter, dont worry
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Re: PIttsburgh

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see siggy for mine, although i let my dad drive for that run because i was missing shifts like a b****. I've never had that problem before, but then again i was never slamming em as fast as possible..

well it seems we are close... i ran a best time of 15.46 @88.70 but also ran 15.53 @89.13 and a horrible 88.29@15.59........... ive learned alittle about technique and weight loss so i think i can do better .
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Re: PIttsburgh

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10.63 for me

hmm 5100+ rpm seems overkill but give it what it likes
Does seem like alot, but if it performs better than do it I guess. I liked watching the Vid, alot of nice passes by everyone. If I didnt work I would have tried to get out for ***** and giggles.

Hey Justin, are you running a 3" exhaust? I cant remember lol and want to know what kind of clearance issues you have. I pulled the 3" off of that Notchback for my car. I got from the Headers (Which I wont be using because of my 7 Qt Oil Pan) all the way to the tips for $25. The Cat is hollowed out so Ill reuse it and the piping is all good, but Ill prolly replace the Muffler and Tips with something I like. The spray paint on the ends are so I rememer how it goes back together lol. Also, not pictured is the Crossover Pipe which I may or may not be able to use with different Headers.

When it was on the car it was actually tucked up pretty nicely, and looking at the piping it looks like it only scraped in one little section maybe a few times.

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I also got:

Gold 16" GTA Wheels - $90
Center Caps (Sat in the hatch new since 92') - $10
SBC Power Steering Pump, Cooling Lines, & Misc Brackets - $25
TH350/400 Driveshaft - Free
Single Electric Fan (Might not use) - Free
225/60/16 Tires for the 16" GTA Rims (Bought to use for fun in Spring) - $40
Black Trans Am Map Pocket - Free

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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I got a 3inch ypipe into single 4inch

depending on your power and rpm, 3" with good muffler will work but i'ld get atleast 3.5 for most 400 builds. Again depends on power
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