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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Car: 1982 Z28
Engine: 355
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First time back at track in five years!!!!

So I ran the z saturday down at E town.Overall I am pretty content for the first time back..man am I rusty!!Second pass went like this..

60Ft:1.968
330:5.879
1/8:8.916
MPH:81.18
1000:11.513
1/4:13.675
MPH:104.82

I had to come off the line around 3000 rolling out and then mash it right past the lights because if I dumped the clutch the car would lock into first gear like the first pass resulting in a 17.1!!!Shifting was done at 5200rpm or so as I was beyond nervous and never let it run to 6k to bring the shift light on...DUH!!!!

Let the car cool down again..the temp was around 90 degress with 66% humidity..hot as all hell.Second pass went as follows..

60Ft:1.850
330:5.635
1/8:8.622
MPH:83.19
1000:11.210
1/4:13.371
MPH:104.77

Did nothing between the passes besides letting it cool and driving it a lil better on the third and last pass..it dropped 3/10ths which made me happy to see it pick up that well in 90 degree heat!!

The 60ft is lame because of the whole rollin out and mashing launch due to this beat 4 speed.Car pulled very well once under WOT.No bogs,flat spots,just a nice clean pull.I ran a borrowed set of 26x8.5x15 M/T Drags.Thanks Jamsgirl!

Overall I am happy with the MPH and the first time back.Car needs serious tuning as the carb is way off.Rebuilt it and threw it back on friday night due to a leaking accelerator pump diaphragm..didn't even set the mixture besides setting them at 1.25 turns out for a baseline.I need to get back for a day of tuning and teaching myself how to race this damn 4 speed again!!!I forgot how much I love to race this car..LOL
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Car: 1982 Z28
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Here's a pic.....


I also got a chance to weigh the car..3390 with me (190lbs) and 3/4 tank of gas.Full weight Z28.Only thing removed is the blower motor itself (factory non A/C car),heater controls from center console and the radio.Still have the JBL 6x9's in the back..lol.Can't complain with that.

Can you say no weight transfer.Hotchkis 1" sport springs make for a great launch.

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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 406
Transmission: TH350, 4200
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3.89
What are the details on your setup?
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Car: 1982 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt
Flat top 10:1 355,AFR 195's (out of the box) 64cc,Weiand Stealth dual plane intake,Speed Demon 750 DP,Comp Extreme Energy 274 Hydraulic flat tappet cam,1.5 Comp Pro Magnum roller rockers,Borg Warner Super T10 4 speed, and 3.73's.Only race prep done was skinnies on the front and slicks on 15" Z28 wheels for the rear.

Car has subframes,DS loop,Wonderbar,Moser 12 bolt,3" Extreme Duty DS,Lakewood scattershield w/ CF dual friction clutch,Random Tech lower control arms and adjustable torque arm set to -2 degrees,Spohn panhard and relocation brackets set to lowest hole.

Car is set up to handle more than a drag only car.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Sounds like a decent setup. I think you should be able to find a few more MPH in it pretty easy and get into the 12s. What are you running for exhaust?
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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I getta some more time at the track for jetting and timing tuning.Hopefully find some more MPH there!

Exhaust consists of SLP 1.75" headers with no cat and Flowmaster 3" Force II cat back (single 3").
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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get rid of that stealth intake get a rpm air-gap. should be in the 12's easy.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by rokn91rs
get rid of that stealth intake get a rpm air-gap. should be in the 12's easy.

Why do you say that?Is the RPM Air Gap that more superior compared to the Stealth?I do want to do the swap ironically..just need hard proof that it's worth removing one dual plane to swap on another ya know.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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if u look at the two side by side u will notice that the rpm has much bigger ports. a friend of mine switched from a stealth to a victor jr and picked up .9 in the 1/4.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by rokn91rs
if u look at the two side by side u will notice that the rpm has much bigger ports. a friend of mine switched from a stealth to a victor jr and picked up .9 in the 1/4.

A Vic Jr. is a quite different intake than an RPM Airgap.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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my point was the stealth intake sucks!
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by onebad82z
I getta some more time at the track for jetting and timing tuning.Hopefully find some more MPH there!
Come out on a better day and that alone will get ya some more mph. Everybody was down on mph Sat cause of the weather(90+ and low barometer). I was down 4mph from 118 and my friend with the blue Malibu was down 6mph from 128

BTW nice meeting you, hope to see ya out there again

Steve
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Decent start. I think a motor like yours shouldnt have too much trouble hitting 11's in not-so-hot weather.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by TTA850
Come out on a better day and that alone will get ya some more mph. Everybody was down on mph Sat cause of the weather(90+ and low barometer). I was down 4mph from 118 and my friend with the blue Malibu was down 6mph from 128

BTW nice meeting you, hope to see ya out there again

Steve
As soon as my wedding is done and over with I wanna get down to Island on a cooler night and see what that nets me as far as MPH.The car has alot more potential in it I have to beleive..I just gotta drive it way way better!

It was cool to finally meet ya man..Drew is gonna give you a ring.I think we are heading to Bear Mt tomorrow night.That show gets pretty packed.

And Steve..if you do move ahead on your planned engine combo..let me know if ya wanna part with the current if you so choose to sell

Originally posted by 88IROC350TPI
Decent start. I think a motor like yours shouldnt have too much trouble hitting 11's in not-so-hot weather.
I want to hope so just for the money and time invested...lol.I really expected better but ran better than I knew it would the first time out in 5 years.The main thing that is killing me is the 4 speed hanging up on a hard launch and the fact I have the car set up to handle more than launch hence the Hotchkis drop springs.I drive the car alot on the street so I try to keep it well balanced all around...speed...handling...braking.I would be happy with a mid 12..ecstatic with any 11..lol.

That car of yours is a mover...very nice times you posted the first time out!!!

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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So no one can give hard factual proof that a RPM air gap is better than a Stealth?
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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I just got a new set of 27x10.5x15 Et Streets for the next outing since the slicks were borrowed.Besides the timing and jetting tuning..anyone have any suggestions on how to get this thing to go a lil faster???I really wanna see some 12's!
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Get yourself an air gap or victor jr. and do some tuning to the timing and fuel. You will see the 12's easily. The reason the air gap and victor are better then the stealth is the port size and design plus the raised runners. This allows alot of heat to dissipate from the intake and heat kills horsepower. Also a set of 1.6 roller rockers and maybe some 4.10 out back would help alot. This only my opinion though. If you are having trouble hooking with the 3.73 you will have to practice with the 4.10. I think these mods will get you deep into the 12's if not high 11's. Good luck and keep me updated.
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