Eighty5TransAm

Im having a big wheel spin problem with my 85 Trans Am. When racing the tires will spin through 1st and 2nd gear, and im not at full throttle. My tires are Eagle f1's 255 50 r16. Is this because of the tires, or do i need to do somthing to the suspension? Heres my setup: 305 tpi, 700r4 limited slipp diff with stock gears (i want to go to a 3.73 but it wont helf if i cant hook up), CAI, AFPR, Crane compucam 210-216 .440 .454, ported plenum and base, airfoil, 9.5:1 compression, flowmaster muffler, and i have boxed the control arms. Would SFC's help? how bout drag radials?

All comments, opinons welcome
Curtis

firebird305

I'm haveing the same problem with my setup too.My advice would be to go to some type of d.o.t. approved slick. i've already purchased a pair of t/a rims,Hopefully next week i will be able to get a set of d.o.t. slicks.

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jbenge

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Drag radials or slicks will help your traction problem the most. Also and adjustable torque arm and LCA relocation brackets would help.

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MouseCamaro305

if you dont want to have to get slicks or radials, which would be the best thing to do, theres always traction bars, check out jeg's theyve got some traction bars in there for 3rd gen F bodies, theyre under 500, I'm not sure how well they work, but traction bars sure did fix my brother's monte's traction problems, good luck

NJ SPEEDER

there are a number of things you can do depending on how you treat your car. i use mine for street strip, so i dropped the front sway bar and i will be installing some lakewood shocks and struts in about 15mins(50/50 for the rear and 90/10 for the front)
the lca relocaters are also a good idea. and any of the rear rig stuff that is tubuylar is always a help. check out spohn at the top of the page, i use his stuff and have been very happy with it.

lata
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REVLIMIT

One thing you can do that will really help with e/ts is. To disconnect both endlinks of the front sway bar. This will help with traction. I really want to go back ot the tracks to try it again. Cause I only used it once. And that was when it was bone stock. So I want to return to the tracks and use it. Definite 14's.

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Ray87Z

I would think other than tires doing the lower control arm relocating thing would help alot. Might want to spring for an adjustable torque arm and dial that in as well. Both will help plant the rear. If you have any wheel hop currently then the relocated LCA thing will clear that right up...

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[This message has been edited by Ray87Z (edited March 26, 2001).]

Eighty5TransAm

I dont have any wheelhop right now, ive never heard of a LCA relocation kit, what does this involve, could i do this myself? Slicks would be good, but this is more for the street, so drag radials are an option. Ive heard of disconnecting the front swaybar, but havent tried it. Thanks for the help guys

Curtis

Ray87Z

Spohn sells them, click the add up at the top of the page.

Basically what it does is lower the rear of the LCAs, increasing the angle. Makes it lift the body and plant the wheels a little harder. You have to weld these in place, but I thought someone used to sell a bolt in set though...

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superz

are u guys talkin about traction bars, or lift bars(or are they the same thing?) i heard that lift bars suck on the street. when you get on it while turning at all it makes the car act real wierd.

vortecfcar

how do all of you guys have these major traction problems? I have a totally stock suspension and I only get a slight bark out of the drag radials when I mat it. I also have never ever experienced wheel hop with this car. I think the stock torque arm setup works pretty damn well compared to some other setups on muscle cars and such that Ive seen......but thats just my 2 cents.

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89V6toV8

I agree. I think most you guys have wheel hop. Just because you can't feel it doesn't mean you don't have it. That can be the only explanation for why it takes removal of the front sway bar to hit 14 seconds. A tight road suspension car should be able to run 13s and be fully hooked on street tires by 2nd gear... if set up properly.

All it takes is a good set of control arms, LCA brackets or a strong torque arm (take your pick), and good suspension bushings. Also, do the gear swap. 3.73 gears allow for much better throttle control and you will have much less trouble hooking up. One common misconception is that if 2.73 gears will roast the tires, then 3.73 gears will make them go flat. Not so. Once you break loose with freeway gears its a lost cause. You have to let off the throttle and start over. Break loose with 3.73 gears and you just play with the throttle a bit. Plus you get through 1st gear quicker and you will tend to plant down in 2nd anyway.

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It think it's your tires because we just put them on my cousin mustang and he got way better traction with his smaller all seasion tires then he does with the F1's.

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