headers $2000 GOING Big Block! - Page 3 - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

Organized Drag Racing and Autocross Drag racing and autocross discussions and questions. Techniques, tips, suggestions, and "what will I run?" questions.

headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

Reply

Old 07-04-2018, 03:20 AM
  #101  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

to keep the power brakes working right...

whats a nice street driven 615cid big block need for oiling easy on the plastic like dizzy gear they want you to use...lol.

[url=https://postimg.cc/image/454fq3taz/][/u
Small block Pan below//love the look of the fabbed aluminum pans!

Last edited by articwhiteZ; 07-05-2018 at 09:24 PM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2018, 08:47 PM
  #102  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Port Angeles, Wa
Posts: 777
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

pretty man! lol always like new parts!
izcain is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2018, 12:41 PM
  #103  
Supreme Member
 
FRMULA88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: IL
Posts: 1,413
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

Dan did my SBC stepped headers with the Brodix 18 degree head pattern, coated inside and out. about that price.

6 years later they still look great and get the job done !
FRMULA88 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2018, 12:48 PM
  #104  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

Originally Posted by FRMULA88 View Post
Dan did my SBC stepped headers with the Brodix 18 degree head pattern, coated inside and out. about that price.

6 years later they still look great and get the job done !
he's done a lot of headers..and all have good things to say.. the only pain in the butt part is having them shipped out to me for test fit..then sending them back to be Coated..then shipping them back to me...they will have more road time then My Camaro ...lol

still thinking on how I want the exhaust to exit the car..in front of rear wheels with modified nascar boomtubes (1 ea side). or?up over the rear. and into turn downs on ea side.ya cant see..(I don't like the look of pipes sticking out from the rear)

Last edited by articwhiteZ; 07-07-2018 at 12:57 PM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2018, 09:08 AM
  #105  
Supreme Member
 
FRMULA88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: IL
Posts: 1,413
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

The further back you run the pipes the quieter the cabin will be, if that is a concern at this stage for you.
My headers just dump under the car, for a track car I saved over 100# by not having an exhaust system!

To knock the dBs down a bit I installed car chemistry 4" collector inserts.
For a car I seldom drive on the street this works for me.

Loud pipes save lives, JAJAJAJ LOL !!!

Last edited by FRMULA88; 07-08-2018 at 09:12 AM.
FRMULA88 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2018, 03:58 PM
  #106  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

ya the car is only a weekend driver spring time summer time..loud its going to be...just don't want pipes seen..or seen little..
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2018, 01:37 AM
  #107  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

got most for the port work done..before..

After rough cut..then a nice 240 grit finish

gaskets made for the top...

Last edited by articwhiteZ; 07-21-2018 at 04:30 AM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2018, 04:03 AM
  #108  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

well got the eng paid for.($23,000+). and shipping the last few things off to Scott Shafiroff Racing.
cost over runs. as I wanted a belt drive. aluminum block. shaft rockers. and a few other things.. I supplied
Oil Pan aluminum
Oil pan studs
Oil pan gasket
Billet oil pump
Oil pump drive shaft
Arp pump stud
fuel pump block off plate
Oil filter adapter/bypass block off
MSD Distributor (locked out)
Comp Cams Composite dist Gear (comp cams)
intake modified to my needs with 2 sets of gaskets (just in case)
fitech duel TB power adder set
linkage for the fitech set up
was going to send canton racing Valve covers. but need to tig baffles in them so will hold on to them for fitting/set up.
gaskets ran $50..lol a lot of other small parts march pully kit..snow balling like always..

http://www.shafiroff.com/chevy-pump-...wg-twisted.php



still need the headers..(dan lemon headers$2000) (carbon fiber drive line $1200) and the (ATI th400 $4200)converter?

the last 3 items should be in by sep..

Last edited by articwhiteZ; 07-24-2018 at 04:57 AM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2018, 08:37 AM
  #109  
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 632
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

awesome progress!
IROCZman15 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2018, 08:48 AM
  #110  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Orr89RocZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 23,736
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

If they are building the motor, why do you have to supply anything?
Orr89RocZ is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2018, 08:20 PM
  #111  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

All the small parts I send in takes a few bucks off what they supply..and I get CLOSER to 100% no left over parts.

I don't Have to supply anything..BUT.

the steel oil pan they use I did not like.. take it off the list of parts used..saves me money..I then supply the pan I want to use... Did this with a few parts. as I was sending my intake set up to them to start with..even with shipping the parts to them I saved money..not much. but I got the parts I wanted to start with..right from the start.. the eng its self. with out the parts I sent in came to just a tad over $23,000 shipped. all I added was a few dress up parts and bolt on stuff..if I let them just do what they do/ use the bolt on parts..I would just be taking them off on this end and not using them.

this way Im only getting stuck with a set of valve covers I will not use..as I want the holes up front. not one in front ..and one in back..like all the ones on the after market..was looking at a set of GMPP covers..but at $700 (15LBS) I had to pass..as it is. the covers I am going to use (Canton racing) runs $270. but I get them. the way I want them...had to polish them (sorta) and have to add baffles..but I got what I think will look good..

like at the start of this. it was a cast iron Dart Block. but I added/upgraded to the Brodix Aluminum block. add $3500 to the build price. add a jesel belt drive. add another $900. TAKE OFF Oil pan removes $150.. by the time I was done..it cost a bit more. after all if Im going to spend the money on an Aluminum block. I don't want a steel oil pan.. or cast iron oil pump..and so on and so on... it all adds up.. how fast do you want to go with your street car.. as this is still a pump gas eng.. this same set up they make to run with E85 puts out close to 1115HP. I don't run E85.. but can buy 55gal drums of fuel..to help out with the Nitrous...

in the end its dyno tuned and sent to me.. I them plug it in..with less parts to take off..
keeping my fingers crossed to still be in the 900hp ball park on just eng. I could work with that..

Last edited by articwhiteZ; 07-24-2018 at 09:17 PM. Reason: A
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2018, 10:41 PM
  #112  
Moderator
 
AlkyIROC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: 51N 114W, 3500'
Posts: 16,626
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

And people don't understand that the engine in my car has a replacement value of a minimum of $20,000. It's doesn't take long to add up all the small stuff plus the labor to do a lot of stuff to the engine. My heads alone are worth around $5000 with custom valves and guides plus all the port work that's been done to them and they're still not the biggest and best heads available.

Now go look at places like Racing Junk and see turnkey superfast cars going for $60,000+ and you'll know why.
AlkyIROC is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2018, 12:51 AM
  #113  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

my intake set up
fitech $1900
intake itself with mods $900
linkage $50
2. 1" spacers $30
2 nos plates $200
polishing $450(bling bling)got to have the bling bling

this is a tad bit more the a single 1150 carb and a single plane intake (what shafirof uses)

Last edited by articwhiteZ; 07-25-2018 at 01:13 AM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2018, 01:30 PM
  #114  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

Took $156 (fedex acct) to ship all the parts off...to NY. at this point they will have them nexed week.. been sick...ER sick...kidney stone...ouch!!
dilaudid is your friend!!

Last edited by articwhiteZ; 07-28-2018 at 01:36 PM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2018, 07:53 PM
  #115  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

short block is done from what I was told today...all my parts are there as of today..Aug 1..
want to see how long till they ship..
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2018, 09:26 AM
  #116  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Orr89RocZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 23,736
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

I would have figured you just tell them what parts to put on it since its your motor and then they will get them, but i guess they dont do it that way. Sounds like they just stick with their crate motor package standard parts and make you supply

thats how i had my motor done back in 09. Granted it was only the short block but I specified parts
Orr89RocZ is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2018, 09:09 PM
  #117  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

..
Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ View Post
I would have figured you just tell them what parts to put on it since its your motor and then they will get them, but i guess they dont do it that way. Sounds like they just stick with their crate motor package standard parts and make you supply

thats how i had my motor done back in 09. Granted it was only the short block but I specified parts




















they can get any part ya want...to any eng style ya want.. I had a larg credit with summit..and I wanted to use it.. I also made my own intake..not them..so if I make my intake I have to send it to them..and at the same time I used my summit credit...and sent them my parts...
Sure I could of just told them what I want. and they would put it together.. but that's now how I roll...lol.. anybody could do that...but then you have what anybody could order...I wanted polished ss 12 point intake bolts..ss 12 point head bolts..I wanted the exact pan studs to go with the pan. the ATI super damper they supply...all I did was use a credit.with the shipping cost to send the stuff to them.. I saved $65 on everything...but I did save money.. as they do have a mark up on all the parts I sent..all the other parts are a better price then summit..expl..ATI damper BBC $295(machine to fit in that price).. summit wants almost $400you get to fit it..... (this is a upgrade over the base damper suppled with the base price 615cid bbc) base price $15.995. by the time I was done my eng was close to $24.000 shipped.. plus another $4800 in parts I sent.. if I went to 14.1 on the compression ratio I would be at close to 1200HP with a single carb.in the 1150 cfm ball park..lol not going to do that..its not a race car...right?
they do make and offer boosted eng packages for less money then I spent on my eng in a NA package..if I wanted 1500HP it was in the price rang..when you get past $24.000. you can make it easy to make lots of power...lol

at this time Im also sending back to summit a $500 intake I had them send out to try it out..and the ports are just to small...
Sniper intake.. would be a nice intake for a stockish 427 to 454bbc...not much more then that with runners the size of a small block...





Last edited by articwhiteZ; 08-04-2018 at 02:08 PM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2018, 09:51 PM
  #118  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

on a side note..my intake set up..came out to the same lay out as holleys did..right down to my rod linkage fit..and carb spacing to runner.. the thing they did. that I did not do. was tig the 1" spacer plates to the intake top.... I left my intake top flat.. I also left my inside intake base flat. sort of like the accel super ram. and like the tunnel rams..I hope I have enough plenum Volum.. I think I do..dyno will tell...lol

Last edited by articwhiteZ; 08-03-2018 at 10:07 PM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2018, 10:08 PM
  #119  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!


Last edited by articwhiteZ; 08-04-2018 at 02:13 PM.
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 08:13 PM
  #120  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

so the eng Dyno came in at 892HP 6700rpm.. not bad for a pump gas Normally Aspirated eng.. before Nitrous Oxide..(small 200 hit)..lets see if I can get in the 10s with it..lol bet I get the boot from the track after the first Bonzai pass..lol

I can see it now..Me..guys its just a 454 with a big cam...and that's aluminum paint on the block...
them...ya OK...
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2018, 07:25 AM
  #121  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Orr89RocZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 23,736
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

6700 rpm is a nice peak point for that many inches. Must have a pretty good cam and head package to support those rpms. Short intake runner helps too i am sure
Orr89RocZ is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2018, 04:18 PM
  #122  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (45)
 
articwhiteZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 3,199
Re: headers $2000 GOING Big Block!

A l ist of a few of the parts.. they did Not use the New MSD distributor I sent them something about the block being a tad bit taller but it still considered a short block.. or the composite gear I sent them.. this is a mechanical roller and a quote Vinny.. it sounds nasty.. brodix 380 heads..
​​​​​​​
articwhiteZ is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Advertising
Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory

Contact Us Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: