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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Im looking to add a power adder to my 350 TPI. Im not looking for the "use the search" threads common here. If you've some solid information or a place that I should start, please help.

Simple question... Turbo, or Supercharged.

The car is not stock....

350 bored over .40
24lb injectors
Holley hi-flo fuel pump,
Edelbrock hi flo manifold
lingenfelter runners..
SLP CAI..

What else may be relevant to the setup of either ? (let me know as I may have it already)

Also, what am I looking in price for either setup... im on a tight budget.. Thanks for any help you can provide.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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I don't mean to be the smart *** here, but why do you think you're too good for the search? I've found a lot of information that way. But to show my words mean no harm, check out www.procharger.com. That seems to be the most popular supercharger vendor. Procharger will even send you a free packet filled with all the information you'll need. I'd recommend that since you're on a tight budget, also if time is a concern.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Perhaps im not asking the right question then. I don't think I am too good to use the search.... perhaps I should ask, what are the more popular setups for Turbo's and chargers that everyone is using? I promise once I have a place to start, my questions will become more focused.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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I use a Procharger
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Well, I'd still suggest the procharger. You'd might wanna go with nothing less than a P-1SC unit (self contained). I'm sure others will chime in and suggest the D-1SC unit b/c it's an upgrade and boost is addictive. I'm thinking the P-1SC with an intercooler will give you the results you want on a budget (but you still haven't said what exactly your budget is). I haven't done the research, but I think a turbo setup will cost you more, unless you know how to weld or can score a set of turbo manifolds. I think the turbo setup will also require more time for the install.

If I had the money (and a TPI) I'd go Procharger
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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From what I have seen a turbo kit will run you around the same as a procharger after you add on an intercooler. BBS has some wicked turbo kits now for our cars. Here's their current ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2472091932
But note that is before an intercooler.

I would also say Procharger is a good bet when looking into superchargers. Especially because they offer intercooler kits (now even twin intercooler kits) for our cars.

Either way turbo or supercharger you are looking at some install time and time spent modifiying but I think a turbo would take a little longer if you wanted to intercool it due to the fact you would have to buy a seperate intercooler then make your tubing for it.

As for which units you should look at it well that's kind of a guess right at this time. Mainly because you didn't include your compression. If you want low boost I would say a P-1SC unless you wanted the regular oil pan feed kind then it would be a P-1. D-1SC are nice they offer more low end boost than the P-1s due to the different impeller and will offer more boost towards the top end with less effort according to Tenacious Performance. Basically over than that the two are identical.

On a stock 350 (yours isn't) a D-1SC will put out around 10 lbs at the lowest according to the ATI Techs. Course since you have better flowing intake you should see a little less.

For now I would say just start researching. There's tons of articles on the net to keep you busy for years (I've been researching a Procharger for over 2 years now).

You can also check out www.tenperf.com They offer decent prices on Prochargers (that's shipping included).
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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must resist...overloading...too many cuts...can't hold out much longer.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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What should one consider a "reasonable budget". This seems as though it may be out of my range at the moment. I don't want to half *** it, but im not looking to make a trailer queen either.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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hey your engine is .040" over, doe it have forged pistons?

I have said this before, but here it goes.


opt 1: If you want something very different, and are willing to resolve alot of speedbumps and problems you might run into (read extra time and money). I would definitely suggest you look into some of the few turbo kits or variety of home built setups floating around.

opt 2:If you hate agony, frustration, and would like something a bit more "turn-key"; one of the supercharger kits from vortech or procharger would be in order. I suggest a 3 core intercooled, D1sc (because the P1sc is weaker). It comes with everything but great instructions. The instructions are a little out dated.

opt 3:switch to carb and go roots. if you dont have emissions to be worried about this is an option. It is incredibly powerful, on par with the centrifugal setup with efi and almost half the price.

opt 4: nitorius nitrous oxide which is no big deal either.
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