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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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procharger setup pics....

im gonna put an f1R on my car, and i was wondering if anyone had one or even a smaller blower, and had pics of what they did with the inlet?

and does anyone have any experience with treadstone intercoolers? good? bad?
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Hey I can't think of his name I think it was blownbird that did the F1R setup but dont quote me on that.Best if you did a search to be sure.Hope this helps
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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You can see how my F1R is setup at Rhodescustomauto.com

Just go under Fab Shop and look for my car towards the bottom.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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For some reason when I try and post my pix it says they are too large.. I have a bunch of my p1sc install, you can kind of view it in my sig pic...

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any suggestions on saving pix so they can fit? Mine are all like 400kb's or so... I can post more if I figure it out...
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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Car: '91 Camaro RS
Engine: F1R Procharged 383
Transmission: Tremec 600
Axle/Gears: moser 12 bolt, 4.11's 33 spline axl
Originally posted by F1RBlownbird
You can see how my F1R is setup at Rhodescustomauto.com

Just go under Fab Shop and look for my car towards the bottom.
thats very nice dude......almost exactly what im doing here, only im going to use a front mount air to air IC....which is no doubt goign to be a pain in the A** to setup......

what are the specs on the motor?

how much boost etc.

im gonna go about 8:1 compression and run around 20psi on the street, and hopefully max out the blower on race fuel at the track.

did you have to modify the strut tower to fit the blower?

the f1r is a big compressor lol
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Are you still running A/C? If not, ProCharger has a carb Chevy bracket that would bring the blower in closer to the motor. You'd have to use some universal brackets to relocate the alt. to the pass. side, and ProCharger has a bracket that locates a Jayco style P/S pump down low out of the way. Plus the crank pulley they would have you use with the carb Chevy bracket wouldn't stick out as far, putting less load on the crank snout.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Car: '91 Camaro RS
Engine: F1R Procharged 383
Transmission: Tremec 600
Axle/Gears: moser 12 bolt, 4.11's 33 spline axl
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Are you still running A/C? If not, ProCharger has a carb Chevy bracket that would bring the blower in closer to the motor. You'd have to use some universal brackets to relocate the alt. to the pass. side, and ProCharger has a bracket that locates a Jayco style P/S pump down low out of the way. Plus the crank pulley they would have you use with the carb Chevy bracket wouldn't stick out as far, putting less load on the crank snout.
my alt is already on the pass side, theres no AC, i have an electric water pump too

the problem is i dont think you can get the blower closer to the motor than it is with a cog setup, because of how wide the belt is......and i need a cog setup.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
my alt is already on the pass side, theres no AC, i have an electric water pump too

the problem is i dont think you can get the blower closer to the motor than it is with a cog setup, because of how wide the belt is......and i need a cog setup.
Sounds like your way ahead of me then. Good info for anybody wanting to try this though.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by KS91Z28
Sounds like your way ahead of me then. Good info for anybody wanting to try this though.
oh ya, the f1r is ALOT bigger than like a p1sc too lol.....so its gotta be out further
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Specs on the motor are:

406 Little M
9.0:1
Comp Solid Roller
AFR 210 ported
Port matched Miniram 1207
F1R cogged at 63K (18lbs)
TH400
Moser 9" 3.70

I had to make an indent in the strut tower to make it fit. It wasnt that bad.

How fast do you plan on running?
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Car: '91 Camaro RS
Engine: F1R Procharged 383
Transmission: Tremec 600
Axle/Gears: moser 12 bolt, 4.11's 33 spline axl
Originally posted by F1RBlownbird
Specs on the motor are:

406 Little M
9.0:1
Comp Solid Roller
AFR 210 ported
Port matched Miniram 1207
F1R cogged at 63K (18lbs)
TH400
Moser 9" 3.70

I had to make an indent in the strut tower to make it fit. It wasnt that bad.

How fast do you plan on running?
haha nice you got a good block......

sounds like your motor is very similar only mine is carbed.....same heads.....im going to get a custom blower grind from comp, right now my cam is .620 lift and 244 deg at .050......i want to stay just as aggressive, only with a blower grind, and run in the area of 20psi on pump gas, and max the blower out with race gas........after some lengthy conversations with the ATI people and some serious thought.......i SHOULD be able to make 800hp on pump fuel with relative ease.....i'd say right now im shooting for low 10's.....but im playing with a manual here, so we'll see how that goes haha.

the strut tower is a load of my mind, i was pokin under the hood the other day and i was like "oh man, i know how big that blower is, this looks ugly......

any problems you ran into in the process??
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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383backinblack, are you, by chance, thinking about using a sheet metal 3 core race intercooler?
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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I dont recall any problems with the mounting. It's been 3 years but this is what I remember:

Make sure you Heli-coil the head that the bracket mounts to. I also used a high grade all thread instead of bolts for the bracket.

You should have NO problem making 800hp with this blower even on pump gas. I am making right around 1100hp with a mix of C16 and pump at 24 degrees of timing.

Good luck

Email me at THESS406@COMCAST.NET if you have any questions.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Car: 92 Z28 Camaro
Engine: Procharged 406.
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" 4.11 Gears
This is my motor.

http://www.stealthram.com/superchevyarticle.html

it made 780 at 6100 with 12.5lbs of boost. Using a D1-SC.
The compressor was pulleyd for 15lbs from procharger but it only made 12.5. I think cause the motor was a little efficient.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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thats nice man....is that an f1???

i was gonna do almost exactly that, but run the filter up by the back of my cowl under the hood.....kinda keep it out of the way and in a high pressure/cold air area.

is your intercooler mounted parallel to the ground?
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
thats nice man....is that an f1???

i was gonna do almost exactly that, but run the filter up by the back of my cowl under the hood.....kinda keep it out of the way and in a high pressure/cold air area.

is your intercooler mounted parallel to the ground?
its an F1 yes,

the intercooler is nearly parallel yes, but i have done an inlet in alum. that push air into it..

An F1r is bigger, and i dont think it will fit unless you cut in the whell fender or build a custom bracket of some kind..
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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its an F1 yes,

the intercooler is nearly parallel yes, but i have done an inlet in alum. that push air into it..

An F1r is bigger, and i dont think it will fit unless you cut in the whell fender or build a custom bracket of some kind..
ya apparently i have to dimple the strut tower a tiny bit.....i like that intercooler setup, doesn't interefere with your radiator at all like that?
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
ya apparently i have to dimple the strut tower a tiny bit.....i like that intercooler setup, doesn't interefere with your radiator at all like that?
no but i have to open the front of my car anyway(25-30deg less heat on the engine), i have a 1000+hp then a transam was too closed & lack airflow so i have made some mod ;




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