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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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edelbrock power package!!!!! IS IT GOOD?

the otherday i was watching tv and i seen this add about the edelbrock power package top end kits. its guaranteed 430hp out of your small block for only 1700 bucks!!!!!!! I was wanderig if anyone else herd of this product, and if so should i buy it?
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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edelbrock rpm package, im running, its not gonna give you 430HP, prolly 375-400. im also running the rpm air gap not the performer rpm, and have added march pulleys so alittle more HP still. ahvent dyno'd it yet.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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It's just the Performer RPM components all in one package- heads, intake, cam. Probably a good package but 430HP does seem maybe a smidge optimistic. Good set of headers and good flowing exhaust are a must to go with it. Not sure if it includes a carb but Edelbrock has recommendations for these kits as well.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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The intake is good, the heads are not bad with a little porting, the cam is the weak point of that setup, imo...substitute in a newer design cam, like the Comp xe series or the Lunati Voodoo or whatever everyone calls their newer lobe design cams, and it will have a better chance of making over 400hp...
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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well at first i wasn't going to get headers, but everone i talk to says i need them if im going to put all of my performance upgrades on it, and make over 400 hp. The reason i need over 400 hp is my brother-inlaw wants to race me in his 2002 duramax diesle when i get my license.....yes you read right.... i'm only 15. i bought the car when i was 14 so i can start working on it. If any of you have any other suggestions what i should buy to make more horses, i would be glad to have them.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Get a 406 with the RPM heads and Air gap intake, XE274 cam, 750DP, full length Hedman hedders, and You will be happy.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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yeah it will make 430 hp if you have 10.5:1 compression ratio, and 1 3/4" headers and a 750 carb..on a "fresh" 350 the caption i read in a jegs catalog under "requirements"
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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http://carcraft.com/techarticles/81998/

442 hp for way cheaper and proven.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChevyRS-305
well at first i wasn't going to get headers, but everone i talk to says i need them if im going to put all of my performance upgrades on it, and make over 400 hp. The reason i need over 400 hp is my brother-inlaw wants to race me in his 2002 duramax diesle when i get my license.....yes you read right.... i'm only 15. i bought the car when i was 14 so i can start working on it. If any of you have any other suggestions what i should buy to make more horses, i would be glad to have them.
You better learn how to become a good driver first or else you will kill yourself with that much HP.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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You better learn how to become a good driver first or else you will kill yourself with that much HP.
sir, not to sound like a punk or rude or anything, but iv been racing things with four wheels since i was 4. From go karts to four-wheelers, to dune-buggys, even junior dirt track cars!
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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i've talked a couple people with this setup, and say its closer to 400HP , not 430. im hopin to get a little more with 1.6 roller rockers, RPM air gap, and march pulleys.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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I think the Holley or Brodix sbc setup would be better than the edelbrock one.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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749 ecm on 87 IROC w/ Vortech SC

This is my 2nd attempt to get this up and running. The 1st time I didn't pay attention to the AFR and was running really really lean. Well, Motor only lasted about 3 miles. Engine was rebuilt with everything forged and MAF system was removed to a 730 E.C.M. Now I have a 749 ecm in and have the supercharger working on the engine but did not plumb the air into the engine.

My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Are you sure your in the right thread? maybe you were looking to start a new thread???

Originally Posted by ibmtech
This is my 2nd attempt to get this up and running. The 1st time I didn't pay attention to the AFR and was running really really lean. Well, Motor only lasted about 3 miles. Engine was rebuilt with everything forged and MAF system was removed to a 730 E.C.M. Now I have a 749 ecm in and have the supercharger working on the engine but did not plumb the air into the engine.

My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ChevyRS-305
sir, not to sound like a punk or rude or anything, but iv been racing things with four wheels since i was 4. From go karts to four-wheelers, to dune-buggys, even junior dirt track cars!
not to sound like an old man, but you don't know how much trouble that kind of attitude will get you in when you get out on the road with the rest of the morons out there.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ibmtech
This is my 2nd attempt to get this up and running. The 1st time I didn't pay attention to the AFR and was running really really lean. Well, Motor only lasted about 3 miles. Engine was rebuilt with everything forged and MAF system was removed to a 730 E.C.M. Now I have a 749 ecm in and have the supercharger working on the engine but did not plumb the air into the engine.

My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
Truly a hi-jack. It doesn't really matter because this thread never belonged under the power adder forum. You will probably be about 20%-30% too rich at idle to start. You will probably have to reduce the crank pulsewidths. It is likely that it will be rich at WOT depending on your setup. As an example, a 350ci with TPI/LT1 intake, 216*@.050 cam showed a 10.0 AFR at 5200 RPM in the WBO2.
Anyway, a NBO2 with TT ALDL logging will get you drivable and safe. Keep an eye on the NBO2 reading and keep it rich in the 800mV to 1000mV range. If you really want to tune for peak torque/HP, then get a WBO2 later and/or dyno it at a shop with a GOOD WBO2.

To the original poster, not to sound rude, but if you have always been around stuff with engines then you wouldn't have to ask if that package is any good. You would know by simply reading the specs for it. Like most of here, you are here to learn. You may not always agree with what someone else says, but you did learn from it without realizing it. Funny, I started out on three wheels.....a green machine that was front wheel drive or something like that.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Wow, the bigwheel, yeah, that sure bring back memories...lol Wasn't it red and yellow though....?

As for the post, the edelbrock package isn't bad, it's only that you get more for less if you look around.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Yeah, she was a beauty. Black frame with green wheels. Later on in years the "crotch" busted on it from taking jumps and the wood 2x4 that I nailed to the plastic for strength wouldn't hold. It was a sad day when it went to the junkyard.
We must have had different models.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Yeah, I used up two of them myself.... How about a stroked briggs and stratton in one of these....
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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lmao not to get off topic.....
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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I noticed in your sig that your engine was a 305 if so the power package wont work anyways since there will be bad shrouding of the valves on that small of a bore. I have recently installed one of the complete holley systemax engine kits on a 383 with 9:5:1 compression and it runs great. strong power and a real flat torque curve.
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