edelbrock power package!!!!! IS IT GOOD?
edelbrock power package!!!!! IS IT GOOD?
the otherday i was watching tv and i seen this add about the edelbrock power package top end kits. its guaranteed 430hp out of your small block for only 1700 bucks!!!!!!!
I was wanderig if anyone else herd of this product, and if so should i buy it?
I was wanderig if anyone else herd of this product, and if so should i buy it? Supreme Member
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From: Miramichi, NB
Car: 86 Monte Carlo
Engine: Blown 489
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: 9" 370s
edelbrock rpm package, im running, its not gonna give you 430HP, prolly 375-400. im also running the rpm air gap not the performer rpm, and have added march pulleys so alittle more HP still. ahvent dyno'd it yet.
It's just the Performer RPM components all in one package- heads, intake, cam. Probably a good package but 430HP does seem maybe a smidge optimistic. Good set of headers and good flowing exhaust are a must to go with it. Not sure if it includes a carb but Edelbrock has recommendations for these kits as well.
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From: Hungary
Car: 87 T/A
Engine: built NOS 350
Transmission: manual 700r4
The intake is good, the heads are not bad with a little porting, the cam is the weak point of that setup, imo...substitute in a newer design cam, like the Comp xe series or the Lunati Voodoo or whatever everyone calls their newer lobe design cams, and it will have a better chance of making over 400hp...
well at first i wasn't going to get headers, but everone i talk to says i need them if im going to put all of my performance upgrades on it, and make over 400 hp. The reason i need over 400 hp is my brother-inlaw wants to race me in his 2002 duramax diesle when i get my license.....yes you read right.... i'm only 15. i bought the car when i was 14 so i can start working on it. If any of you have any other suggestions what i should buy to make more horses, i would be glad to have them.
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From: currently Jacksonville NC
Car: 91 z28
Engine: 383 sbc, 88mm turbo a2w IC, CSU 750
Transmission: th-400 PTC 4000 stall
Axle/Gears: ford 9" 3.55 gear
yeah it will make 430 hp if you have 10.5:1 compression ratio, and 1 3/4" headers and a 750 carb..on a "fresh" 350 the caption i read in a jegs catalog under "requirements"
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From: St. Augustine, FL
Car: 89 GTA
Engine: 383
Transmission: 4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12 bolt-3.73
Originally Posted by ChevyRS-305
well at first i wasn't going to get headers, but everone i talk to says i need them if im going to put all of my performance upgrades on it, and make over 400 hp. The reason i need over 400 hp is my brother-inlaw wants to race me in his 2002 duramax diesle when i get my license.....yes you read right.... i'm only 15. i bought the car when i was 14 so i can start working on it. If any of you have any other suggestions what i should buy to make more horses, i would be glad to have them.
Originally Posted by MKnight
You better learn how to become a good driver first or else you will kill yourself with that much HP.
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From: Miramichi, NB
Car: 86 Monte Carlo
Engine: Blown 489
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: 9" 370s
i've talked a couple people with this setup, and say its closer to 400HP , not 430. im hopin to get a little more with 1.6 roller rockers, RPM air gap, and march pulleys.
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From: Rockford, MI
Car: 1983 Pontiac Trans AM
Engine: 355 chevy
Transmission: 700R4 Built
Axle/Gears: Built 10 bolt 3.73 gears
I think the Holley or Brodix sbc setup would be better than the edelbrock one.
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From: Glen Park, NY
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
Engine: TPIS II Supercharged w/Nitrous
Transmission: 700R4 Probuilt
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Richmond 12 Bolt
749 ecm on 87 IROC w/ Vortech SC
This is my 2nd attempt to get this up and running. The 1st time I didn't pay attention to the AFR and was running really really lean. Well, Motor only lasted about 3 miles. Engine was rebuilt with everything forged and MAF system was removed to a 730 E.C.M. Now I have a 749 ecm in and have the supercharger working on the engine but did not plumb the air into the engine.
My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
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Car: 1983 Pontiac Trans AM
Engine: 355 chevy
Transmission: 700R4 Built
Axle/Gears: Built 10 bolt 3.73 gears
Are you sure your in the right thread? maybe you were looking to start a new thread???
Originally Posted by ibmtech
This is my 2nd attempt to get this up and running. The 1st time I didn't pay attention to the AFR and was running really really lean. Well, Motor only lasted about 3 miles. Engine was rebuilt with everything forged and MAF system was removed to a 730 E.C.M. Now I have a 749 ecm in and have the supercharger working on the engine but did not plumb the air into the engine.
My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
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Originally Posted by ChevyRS-305
sir, not to sound like a punk or rude or anything, but iv been racing things with four wheels since i was 4. From go karts to four-wheelers, to dune-buggys, even junior dirt track cars!
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Engine: 3xx ci tubo
Transmission: 4L60E & 4L80E
Originally Posted by ibmtech
This is my 2nd attempt to get this up and running. The 1st time I didn't pay attention to the AFR and was running really really lean. Well, Motor only lasted about 3 miles. Engine was rebuilt with everything forged and MAF system was removed to a 730 E.C.M. Now I have a 749 ecm in and have the supercharger working on the engine but did not plumb the air into the engine.
My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
My question is using the 749 what would be the easiest way to set the AFR since I don't have a Wide Band O2. I think I am right by saying that I would rather have it run rich rather than lean. But, not too rich. Can I use the data master TT to datalog this info and see how rich or lean I am running and adjust the tables to get the proper mixture and spark?
Anyway, a NBO2 with TT ALDL logging will get you drivable and safe. Keep an eye on the NBO2 reading and keep it rich in the 800mV to 1000mV range. If you really want to tune for peak torque/HP, then get a WBO2 later and/or dyno it at a shop with a GOOD WBO2.
To the original poster, not to sound rude, but if you have always been around stuff with engines then you wouldn't have to ask if that package is any good. You would know by simply reading the specs for it. Like most of here, you are here to learn. You may not always agree with what someone else says, but you did learn from it without realizing it. Funny, I started out on three wheels.....a green machine that was front wheel drive or something like that.
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From: New Jersey
Car: 87 Black Formula
Engine: Rollercammed Lg4
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 Bolt Locker
Wow, the bigwheel, yeah, that sure bring back memories...lol
Wasn't it red and yellow though....?
As for the post, the edelbrock package isn't bad, it's only that you get more for less if you look around.
Wasn't it red and yellow though....?As for the post, the edelbrock package isn't bad, it's only that you get more for less if you look around.
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Engine: 3xx ci tubo
Transmission: 4L60E & 4L80E
Yeah, she was a beauty. Black frame with green wheels. Later on in years the "crotch" busted on it from taking jumps and the wood 2x4 that I nailed to the plastic for strength wouldn't hold. It was a sad day when it went to the junkyard.
We must have had different models.
We must have had different models.
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From: New Jersey
Car: 87 Black Formula
Engine: Rollercammed Lg4
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10 Bolt Locker
Yeah, I used up two of them myself.... How about a stroked briggs and stratton in one of these....
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From: Port Angeles, Wa
Car: 1983 Camaro Z28
Engine: 584
Transmission: TSI Glide
Axle/Gears: Quick performance 9 inch
I noticed in your sig that your engine was a 305 if so the power package wont work anyways since there will be bad shrouding of the valves on that small of a bore. I have recently installed one of the complete holley systemax engine kits on a 383 with 9:5:1 compression and it runs great. strong power and a real flat torque curve.
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