I have 2 turbos for sale out of my 3000gt. They produce 265cfm each at 15psi. These turbos are Mitsubishi TD04-9B-6cm2. There is little to no lag at all with these turbos and on a V8 they would be ideal. I am thinking of puting them on my Trans Am but if I can sell them I will. I am asking $300 or best offer. These turbos new cost $1300 apeice so your savings is $2300. The turbos are in perfect condition and are not loosing oil. The turbos also come with acuators. If nobody wants them you guys will have to explain how to make them work on my T/A.

Thanks

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1988 Trans AM
62,000 miles

1993 3000gt VR4
Engine blown to pieces

 

Hmm, do you have any pics?

Anyone else know if these would be adequate for a built 350? If so, I'll probably buy em from you man..

 

I am pulling the turbos next week I will post pics when I am done. These turbos are still in use so you dont have to worry about bad seals or all the other problems that junkyard turbos have. I would think they would be adiquit for a 350. I know the stock 3.0 litre V6 with out turbos puts out 225hp which is similar to an older 350 or my TPI 305. I am sure they would spool up alot faster on a V8 though. I have a friend with a Rustang who thinks he needs them but I would rather see them put on a F body. Price is still $300.

Thanks

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1988 Trans AM
62,000 miles

1993 3000gt VR4
Engine blown to pieces

 

WHOA! TD04-9B turbos are wussies for a 3.0L V6, why the f*ck would you put them on a V8?!?! I sell 13B and 15G upgrades for the 3000/Stealth, and those people are only "satisfied". When choosing a set of turbos for a V8, consult a specialist. Do NOT buy those turbos!! A proper pair of Mitsu turbos to work on a V8 would be TD05-16G-10cm2 units. I am running twin TD06-20G-10cm2 turbos, personally...

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1989 Formula, 383", DFI, Mini-Ram, S-Trim Vortech, blah, blah...
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

TURBO 406 PROJECT STARTED!!!

Other expensive hobby: assault weapons/shooting sports

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
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Not to get rude or anything but I am only asking $300 dollars for a set. Where can you find any 13g or 15g for $300. If so I will buy a set. I know the 9bs arnt the best turbo so if you want over 15psi you can go spend at least a grand. I spent $2600 on my new turbos but they are for a not so stock motor. I was just thinking for some one who doesnt want to rebuild the bottom end these would work fine. And like I said if nobody wants them they go on my T/A. I only want to run 5-6 lbs of boost anyways. I cant spend the money to rebuild both of my cars.

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1988 Trans AM
62,000 miles

1993 3000gt VR4
Engine blown to pieces

 

GMI FAST: Well, I only want like 6-8 pounds of boost, maybe 10 pounds, MAX..

They might be "wussy", but would the be sufficient for the low amount of boost that I want? I have a 350 with all forged internals and a 218/228 @.050 .525/.525 112LSA cam that I think I'm going to be using.

Main reason I ask is because I'm on a low budget and these seem like a pretty good deal...

 

The problem with using turbos that are not matched to your application is that they will be inefficient! The further away from a good match you go, the more the turbo heats up the air in proportion to boost. Those turbos are going to be way too small for your v8. I believe you can also ruin them if they are spun too fast. If you are going to do a SBC turbo setup, the actual turbo is only part of the cost. To mount those turbos, you're gonna also drop at least $1000 on some custom manifolds. Then, you have to get your tubing custom done. Performance Techniques quoted me $600 on a rebuilt warranteed T4 60, which is a good match to a healthy 383 or so.

Rob

 

No kidding they are only $300. That's not my point. You are completely mismatching componetry. Boost is a measure of pressure. 5-6 psi on those turbos is like 1-2 psi on a proper setup. A similar comparison would be having a 540" big-block and throwing on a single 2-barrel carburetor because it was cheap, and you only want to flow 300-cfm anyway. Just my professional opinion, though. You are free to do anything you like. Get down with your bad self...

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1989 Formula, 383", DFI, Mini-Ram, S-Trim Vortech, blah, blah...
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

TURBO 406 PROJECT STARTED!!!

Other expensive hobby: assault weapons/shooting sports

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association
www.mfba.org

 

Well, I have access to a shop to do pipe bending and welding, so that's not a problem at all. $600 for a new turbo is pretty good, I thought they went for a lot more than that? Maybe I will end up going the single turbo route, although I will have to get really creative with the pipe routing Thanks for the help, guys.

 

As a general rule (I've recently learned) for doing a junkyard/used turbo setup is that you wanna match the original displacment of the motor the turbos were attached to. Therefore, using 2 turbos that used to feed 3 liters an a chevy 350 thats almost double that, is not ideal. Myself I am using one turbo of a 2.5L, and one off a 3L for a total of 5.5L...it's alot closer.

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"American made baby. 100% American iron. The muscle among the masses. My hero. Yep, you can take your ergonomically designed, space age, computer controlled, 4 door, cup holding map lighted split double wishbone split fold down retractable cargo covered moon roof piece of transportation and keep it. For I have felt the thunder. And I know the difference!"
JSP Motorsports
ICON Motorsports

 

Very good price on the turbos but they're just not adequately sized. 530 CFM is not gonna feed even a small V8.

Rob_O

 

Jester, I am afraid to ask this, but I will. Can you please explain to us what the heck you are doing? Did you say you are running 2 turbos from 2 different sized engines?!?! Are you doing some kind of sequential-turbo thing, or are you really going to have a smaller turbo on one side of the car than the other? Please tell me you aren't. I can't believe that you guys...oh...forget it, I give up...

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1989 Formula, 383", DFI, Mini-Ram, S-Trim Vortech, blah, blah...
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

TURBO 406 PROJECT STARTED!!!

Other expensive hobby: assault weapons/shooting sports

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association
www.mfba.org

 

OMG!!!
You've got to be sh!tting me!
LOL LOL LOL



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

heh. heh. heh.

What Jester just said is almost as bad as the weed-wacker supercharger. BWAHAHAHAHAH!

 

Cmon guys this forum isnt for heckling people. If jester genuinly doesnt know its the wrong thing to do then people who KNOW should be directing him in the right direction.

We dont all work at Hahn Race ccraft and live and breath turbos. Some people are not as educated as others.

 

First of all..I still think they'll work just fine. They're not THAT different, both Garrett T3's...I just don't know the AR on the larger one. If I use a good 2into1 pipe I don't believe I'll get ANY reversion problems.

Second of all, I've posted about them on here 3 times I think, including before I bought them, and no one said a damn word.

Third, I've heard of mismatched turbos on a few applications, I'm not the first to try it.

Fourth, I'm gonna stick with the ones I have. If they don't work, I can always go find one to match one or the other and bolt it right in to the same pipes.

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"American made baby. 100% American iron. The muscle among the masses. My hero. Yep, you can take your ergonomically designed, space age, computer controlled, 4 door, cup holding map lighted split double wishbone split fold down retractable cargo covered moon roof piece of transportation and keep it. For I have felt the thunder. And I know the difference!"
JSP Motorsports
ICON Motorsports

 

You know, there are plenty of people on this board that realize mismatched turbochargers would not be a wise choice. There were recently some photos submitted of a couple members that are running proper twin units. I even gave some advice concerning oil feed line routing in an effort to help the person not make a vital mistake. An uneducated individual is about to make a poor decision, and after comments from some other members decides to STILL go ahead with the project! This is frustrating to me, as I can't believe somone is actually going to attempt this. Just because I am frustrated, Mr. Moderator, doesn't give you any reason to single out my response to his decision or use my place of employment in your reply. And you are right, not everyone can work for a turbocharging/fuel injection company...

Anyway, on to the INTELLIGENT topic. As far as Jester (how fitting) is concerned, different-sized turbos can be used in applications where they are configured sequentially. Using them in a one-per-bank of cylinders situation can cause problems with turbulence, boost control, wastegate operation, and oil lubrication, which can all lead to turbo failure. I would suggest doing some reading on basic turbosystem design and operation before starting your project. Be aware there are many T3 variations available, and they are not just dependant on A/R ratios...

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1989 Formula, 383", DFI, Mini-Ram, S-Trim Vortech, blah, blah...
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

TURBO 406 PROJECT STARTED!!!

Other expensive hobby: assault weapons/shooting sports

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association www.mfba.org

[This message has been edited by GMI FAST (edited December 29, 2000).]

 

Listen to what GMI says. He's right.
To add to that, I've heard of a lot of cars using a single large Turbo, and getting better results than twin turbos.
Plus single turbo is much easier to work with as far as the exhaust tube plumbing goes.
Check out this site.
http://www.turbotechnologyinc.com/

There are some LS1 cars running 10's with their Turbo with only 7psi of boost.

 

If anyone really, really must run twin "junkyard" turbos, I would suggest nothing smaller than 2 same-sized Grand National units. Even then, pay for some outfit such as mine to inspect them for proper operating condition before using them. Turbos sitting in a salvage yard are bound to need new seals, gaskets, or bearings. Spending $150 per turbo for a freshening is cheaper than what you would spend on an engine that ate a compressor wheel!

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1989 Formula, 383", DFI, Mini-Ram, S-Trim Vortech, blah, blah...
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

TURBO 406 PROJECT STARTED!!!

Other expensive hobby: assault weapons/shooting sports

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association
www.mfba.org

 

How about those turbos 3.4 or 3.1 newer v-6 ?(like an newer RS motor or vortec)