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Old May 30, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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fast twin turbo question

im new with turbos and building a 355 with all forged parts and a built th400, now i have the turbo headers just wondering if the t3 turbos off of the ford turbo coups would work fine to use , i really need to no fast due to im going to look at the turbos tomorrow, and im getin a hell of a deal both for only 75 and they were just rebuilt. i got a friend that works rebuilding them
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Old May 30, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Re: fast twin turbo question

Having used t3's from a Chrysler (nearly the same as ford) on my camaro, I wouldn't do it again. They choke the motor really bad at only 5000rpm. The price sounds ok, though.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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is there not any thing i can do for it not to choke up, and how bad is the choke ,
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Old May 30, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Make sure they are the 60/63 turbos. That is to say that the exaust housings are an ar 63, not the ar 48s that ford and mercury put in the auto trans cars. They used the 48s for faster spool up in the autos. The 63s will give you much less "choke" and you will make power to 5500 or so, wich is all you really need to get to the 500-600 hp MAX range. Oh and this is a much bigger turbo than the chrysler t/3s. At this hp i would say a good set of forged pisons and rods would be plenty to support that power goal. Hope this helps.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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I wouldn't say "much bigger", its 50 trim versus 60 trim, but a little bit bigger none the less. I agree, if they have the .63AR turbine housing they will be worth getting.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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Re: fast twin turbo question

well im gona buy them reguardless and if there to small ill sell them to the first civic i see at the strip that slow, witch shouldent b hard to find at all, but i do no they r off of the mustang svo 5 speed turbo cars, just dident think about it being different from auto to manual,
lots of help guys thanks
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Old May 30, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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o and 5.0eater was the first name i tryed when i joined no i no y it wouldent let me have it lol
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Re: fast twin turbo question

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o and 5.0eater was the first name i tryed when i joined no i no y it wouldent let me have it lol
Yeah I accually got some crap for using that name from the 5.0 tpi guys. like a 5.0 tpi should even be worth eating. lol
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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ha yeah i was talkin about the 5.0 rustangs,
but i went and looked ta the turbo and holy **** they were small , they were the a\r .48. they looked as if they wouls choke the lawn mower, the intake was like maybe 1.5 in in diamator
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I take it you didn't buy them?
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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o no i mean thet wewe so little my friend looked and said "well these are cute". i c where you got the choke, but i was also reading and is it true that none of the twim turbo headers will b a bolt on?

if this is true would it b better to build a single turbo set up wuth one holset turbo i can get the turbo for 100 to 125 rebuilt, no w\g, but how would i run the pipeing to the turbo with the stearing linkage and the the down pipe with the fire wall and headers in the way on both sides, but lookin to cut away the fire wall and run a 3in down pipe
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Re: fast twin turbo question

Originally Posted by 5.0slayer
im new with turbos and building a 355 with all forged parts and a built th400, now i have the turbo headers just wondering if the t3 turbos off of the ford turbo coups would work fine to use , i really need to no fast due to im going to look at the turbos tomorrow, and im getin a hell of a deal both for only 75 and they were just rebuilt. i got a friend that works rebuilding them
Since they were not as advertised I would be wary of any person that supposedly works rebuilding them. I wouldn't buy any advertised turbo(s) from them unless you know yourself what you are looking at.

As for your setup a pair of T3 60 trim, .63 A.R turbines would work good.
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Re: fast twin turbo question

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if this is true would it b better to build a single turbo set up wuth one holset turbo i can get the turbo for 100 to 125 rebuilt, no w\g, but how would i run the pipeing to the turbo with the stearing linkage and the the down pipe with the fire wall and headers in the way on both sides, but lookin to cut away the fire wall and run a 3in down pipe
What size/series holset turbocharger? The piping will fit, but things get tight.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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its a holset hx 50 i believe but he also has a hx30-35? not sure but its off of a dodge its a 3in intake and exhaust, i can also build my own cross over i woek at a shop that does exhaust and can get a 13 ft pipe for like $23 any size i want and bend and weld, its just where to run the pipes every one has great pics of the single turbo but there all out of the car, i need good pics of singles that show how to do the pipe under it
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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Re: fast twin turbo question

BBS designs still makes bolt-on turbo headers last I heard.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Re: fast twin turbo question

Originally Posted by ttypecamaro
BBS designs still makes bolt-on turbo headers last I heard.
could any one post a link for me?
and also with me workin at a shop is it possible to use the shorty headers and make a coustom y to the turbo
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Re: fast twin turbo question

i found it on another post on here
http://www.xs-power.com/gm-turbo-manifolds-3.htm
am i the only one who thinks it will hit the ac even with the bypass pully on it?
and here is a pic of the space between my passenger header and fire wall, there ante nothing goin in there without something being cut.
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