11ellswray

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Sorry guys I have tried searching around for hours now, and I still can’t find my assssssanswer.

Anyway a member is trying to sell what seems to be a low mileage, complete (give or take) P600B supercharger kit. I know the unit is outdated but if I could get it for the right price (what is the right price?) how hard would it be to modify my 86's belt system to run the supercharger? If I am right, these were designed for an 88 and later car, which has a serpentine belt. My 86 has the multiple belt system. I just need to get a handle on this, really would love to get a supercharger on this thing, (boost in general) but I only have like 2-3k+/- to get it done. So the price on the kit, and the parts to get it done need to be right. I work quite a bit so if I need more cash later on that diffidently won’t be that big of a deal.

11ellswray

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need a price?

red rock

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Found this on ebay, seems like the same one.http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROCHARGER-S..._Parts&vxp=mtr

11ellswray

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yea thats the right model, doesnt include the rest of the kit though. He is asking 2500, and could take 2200 possibly... seems a little high right?

red rock

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I don't know enough about superchargers to say anything, but if you can get one for $500 on ebay, I wouldn't think the pipes and accessories would be $1800-$2000. BTW, I'm about 30 miles from you.

11ellswray

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Hey red rock where are you located in wisc? There is a red IROC that i seen by menomonie with that same hood.... and it is also red.......

Twin_Turbo

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The kit is meant to fit the serpentine system. To get it workig on your car requieres a whole revamp of the system and won't work with the flat belts. I did it on my 87, it's a lot more work than converting to a serp. drive from a later car and then bolting the SC on, that's what I did for my truck

Here's what I built for my camaro:







And this is for my truck, converted to serp. drive before installing SC



pan with return welded to it



mockup

11ellswray

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How much did it take to do the setup on the 87? which would be better, easier, converting to the serp. or do like the 87? I am a little limited on the cost, tryin to save for the downpayment on a house.................

Twin_Turbo

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Not that much since I built most of it myself. The most expensive are the CV products pulleys for the WP and alt (gold colord stock pully replacd by a smaller CV products one) the crank pulley (not visible) is a 88 up serpentine pulley, underdrive type that I machined in half, removed a section and welded back together, Machined it so there's a step in both sides and they press together like a register and then tig welded inside and out. The details are in my camaro build thread somewhere

red rock

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That would be me. Here's an interesting read;http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/turb...-up-29060.html TWIN_TURBO, what a nice clean set up.

11ellswray

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id love to do all of that but..... i do not own nearly as much equiptment as you do

11ellswray

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TWIN TURBO, do you know any other sites or keywords, I can try to get this figured out? I have a couple welders and grinders, cutting tools. I really have no way of making that precise of parts. Any help is greatly appreciated.

11ellswray

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I read the whole thing, it was pretty good,they never mentioned anything about how much work it takes to instal the two types of kits, and with a centripetal type blower you can install somthing like a wastegate to limit the amount of booost your getting. Yes i believe turbos would be the way to go, but I dont think that I will go that route... Never say never...

alex91z28

who makes that intake?

Twin_Turbo

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Which one?

alex91z28

the one on page 7. it looks like a hsr but with a diferent top.

Twin_Turbo

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The one on the red car? It's a McFarland short ram

11ellswray

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where can a guy get that mcfarland intake? How tall is it? Stock height?

Twin_Turbo

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nowhere, not for sale, only a couple ever made. There are 5 confirmed to exist. I have 1, jerrywho has 1, there were 2 more on ebay some time ago and recently there was a corvette owner here who found 1 and is installing it on his callaway TT

11ellswray

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dang, I thought that could be the answer to a highflo intake for a car with an aftermarket strut tower brace. The mini ram might fit but its all about the money. How is it for flow? or is it like the dual plug heads on my bike, not really a huge performance piece but still wayy cool.

Twin_Turbo

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The miniram is a lot lower than this manifold, it just fits with a STB but I have solid motor mounts.



From the little running I have done with it, it runs a LOT better than stock tpi, it's a tad smaller than the HSR but throttle response is great. I ran it with a stock tune and 32# injectors on my SBc, w/ 180cc TFS G1 heads, 1-5/8 primary headers/3" coll. full 3 to 2.75 dual exhaust, zz409 cam. Should give an idea of the increased flow in that it ran excellet AFRs with no tuning at all, even leaned out idle and all. That was with the SC not hooked up. This is it, running on bone stock tune, stock maf hooked up, 32lbs injectors.


it's low on power there because the SC is not hooked up and robbing hp from driving it.

BTW, heres a vid of my pulleys and stuff


There's a thread about the manifold, look for prototype manifold or the word mcfarland, you will find the threads. There are pics comparing it to a HSR in there.

Kingtal0n

I love power adders... all of them... but if you are going to spend upwards of $2000 on any kind of power adder... it should be a proper turbo setup IMHO. I know they seem like more work, but the ability to adjust the wastegate with a button from inside the vehicle plus the fact there is no gigantic bracket/pulley/belt makes a world of difference.

11ellswray

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That is where I am right now, after i finish this wiring nighmare im in right now I just really want boost, after all these years of never even considering it I finally figured out that "power adders" are the only way to go. Take a slightly nasty N/A motor, add forged pistons and a little PSI and it will take a common "hot rod" to that next level.