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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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We have all seen the air pumps on the smog year cars designed to pump fresh air into the exhaust. This was to cheat on emissions testing. Why this was legal is beyond me. The question I have is how many cfm's do these things pump? And couldn't someone run the output into the intake , rather than the exhaust to help the engine breath a little? It would have to increase flow.
Old Dec 20, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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I've seen your question asked a few times on the forums. I understand your line of reasoning but I don't see it being worthwhile. That being said I have never actually seen anyone try this and I'd be curious to know how much air that pump could move. Short answer: kind of pointless just buy a turbo
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Smog pump superchargers.... hellz yeah!

Old Dec 20, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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If it would work, dont you think you'd need alot of them to notice any difference?
Old Dec 20, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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Re: smog pump

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We have all seen the air pumps on the smog year cars designed to pump fresh air into the exhaust. This was to cheat on emissions testing. Why this was legal is beyond me. The question I have is how many cfm's do these things pump? And couldn't someone run the output into the intake , rather than the exhaust to help the engine breath a little? It would have to increase flow.
It doesn't cheat on emissions testing, it reduces emissions.

It doesn't move a significant enough amount of air to do anything noticeable if you fed it into the intake.
Old Dec 20, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I was just curious. I haven't really found one that isn't messed up anyway. And how is adding fresh air into the exhaust to dilute the exhaust not cheating? If I take a drug test I am not allowed to add water. And even if it isn't much air flow , rerouting a hose into your your air breather would have to add more air and help breathing. maby not much. And I will buy a turbo as soon as you give me the money for it. Thanks for the offer.lol
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And how is adding fresh air into the exhaust to dilute the exhaust not cheating?
Dilute the exhaust? Is that what the additional air is doing? Diluting? Hmm, and here I thought all this time the smog pump was pumping air to allow for a more fuller exhaust combustion when it reached the palladin in the cat converter...
Old Dec 20, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Well then why arent the air pumps used anymore then if they work like that? I would think it would be illegal to have a car without one in that case. I have heard that (what I said about diluting) from a reliable source. A popular magazine explained them at one time. It may have been mopar magazine , or hot rod or car craft. I did read it just like that though. Maby they were lieing or just wrong. But in any case they are not on new cars , and the internal combustion engine has not really advanced enough to somehow burn cleaner. In fact with the junk gasoline these days I would think they are dirtyer. Maby the fuel and air get mixed better now? I don't really know , just speculating. But our engines are pretty old technology. way outdated. Even fuel injection is pretty old. Even chevy had fuel injection on the 57 chevy making 283 hp. 1 ph per cubic inch. Before that I think Tucker may have had it. I think Hitler's scientists designed some efficient fuel injected engines. Just because the big three didn't use it until the 80's doesn't mean anything. And you have to understand how underhanded big business can be about cheating laws and regulations , even having laws suspended.
I do love the internal combustion engine and hot rods and any motorized toy. I even have a few 2 stroke dirtbikes. (talk about dirty). But it is the truth that technology has been stifled and held back to keep the oil industry able to blackmail us into buying their illegally price fixed product. I'm not tryin to argue or make waves , just sayin.
And if a cat can burn the fuel moving through it at that speed so quickly , we are far off from how we get power. So I guess them add ons that people made fun of that claimed to boost mpg to around 60 mpg on a v8 had to have had some truth to them? A truth just can't change to suit someones claim to how something works.

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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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But it is the truth that technology has been stifled and held back to keep the oil industry able to blackmail us into buying their illegally price fixed product.
you must think the world is ending tomorrow too

there are many ways to reduce emissions other than an air pump (many better ways too!) so you don't see them on many new cars. honda s2000's had AIR pumps... they were made until 2008ish
Old Dec 21, 2012 | 01:39 AM
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the world ending has nothing to do with price fixing. When the big oil companies agree on fixed pricing and it is common knowledge , it is just that , price fixing. Have you heard of opec? And honda was allowed to cheat on smog until 2008? Also Iraq wanted to sell oil cheaper than the rest back in 1990. Remember the first gulf war? Remember that the USA at first pledged to remain neutral when Iraq invaded Kuwait because of Kuwait angle drilling to steal oil from Iraq? Then suddenly it wasn't OK? Hugo Chavez of Venezuela was in the crosshairs for a while because of cheeper pricing. I think he must have fell in line because you don't hear much propaganda on him anymore. By the way Hugo has donated or made cheep a lot of heating oil to the USA to help the poor with heating costs. Am I spelling cheep wrong? Citgo belongs to Venezuela btw.
"The simple believeth every word; but the prudent man looketh well to his going" (Proverbs, chapter 14 verse 15)
Like I said I'm not tryin to be internet smart *** tough guy. just puttin a few facts out. And I love powersports , but truthfully internal combustion engines are old , old outdated technology. In fact I think a hemp diesel was made before the gasoline engine. Oil , chemical , and lumber idustries campaigned for over 30 years of lies, often using racism , to get cannibas made illegal. Marajuana was not even a real word. It was mexican slang for crazy weed. It was made so legislature did not know what they were voting on. When legislature found out what they had actually voted for they tried to overturn it. Didn't happen. Hemp and cannibas are closely related. Like I said I'm not tryin to be internet smart *** tough guy , just puttin a few facts out. sorry for posting this on a camaro site ,just adding bullets to my facts. I'll stop doin it.

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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Re: smog pump

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Well then why arent the air pumps used anymore then if they work like that?
Control systems improved and catalytic converter technology advanced, and they're not needed anymore.
Old Dec 21, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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A silly question about making air pumps into superchargers turned into an augument over gas prices and marijuana?

Why do air pumps always attract these types?
Old Dec 21, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Now this has some merit!
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