The DIY PROM board does an excellent job of spelling out that it is not a place to beg, refer, etc. It does not tell where to go to beg. Tell us where to go on this site to do that.

I need a place to beg and I am sure there are those that would really enjoy me on my knees pleading for their help.

 

www.corvetteforum.com

 

 

My point is, rather than just hammering away at the problem so boldly, identify the problem and offer a solution to alleviate the problem. Otherwise it is just bitching.

 

not unless you're a girl

 

Honestly your best bet is to find someone in your area to program your chip. Its very hard to just mail a chip out and have it be correct the first time. Then you have to send it back, wait for the new one to arrive and hope it works better, ect. Then there is the whole issue of liability. Do your best to locate someone who does this as a business IE tuning/speed/motor rebuilding shops. If they do not do it chances are they know someone who does right near you. I have burned up to 12 chips in one day just working on tuning my new cam/heads/injectors. If I was asked to burn a chip for someone when I can't get any data on the tune of their engine I would be lost. Then all you could do was guess and go from there. It becomes frustrating for you and the person who is doing the programming. Hope this helps!

 

Yeah, there are options like that. My thing was the board just says "no, no." People must get desperate from time to time and don't know where to turn so they must post on that board.

So in other words what you are saying is this website offers no solution for the problem. It has a tech article on how to get started and when it does not work out for someone they can't ask for help from those who are really good at it. You can ask on there what you are doing wrong, waste lots of time trying to get it right, and wished you could have never started to begin with. I am just assuming.

It looks like there is a void between those who get it to work and paying the high prices for "businesses" that do this for people. The option you mention, I am guessing, must be impractical for many.

Personally, I have never touched this or other computer programming. I am in the studing stage. Most of the info I find on this is really stuff must have been written by people who have some formal education in programming and they assume others do to. Every time I find something it seems like I am starting the reading in the middle of a book. I can understand how others must be getting frustrated especially when they want to get going on it.

That is all I had to say about it. Just saying stop looks like it is not cutting it and people are getting grief for their situation.

 

By the way, I am wondering where the tech article Part II is on programming. So far it has been a broken promise.

 

I really want to state before I respond that I have no ties to this website so I do not feel comfortable commenting for it. What I will do is answer your questions from my perspective of being a user here.

Yes, this is not a business its a message board. How would one regulate who gets to advertise business. Then what happens if a customer is unsatisfied? Do they in turn start to hassle TGO to make the situation correct when TGO had nothing to do with the programming in the first place. There have been numerous names mentioned on this forum of businesses that do this.

There are some very knowledgable people on this board when it comes to programming. Certian times they may have an assinine response but for the most part they help because they want to. Remember they are only trying to share knowledge, its not their responsibility to program your prom.



There will always be people with more or less of an advantage in any situation. Heck I am from a small city in Saskatchewn, Canada. Can you imagine how many people program eproms here??? I can tell you I know of only 4 that play with GM OBD1. I remember feeling overwhelmed when I rebuilt my motor with my mods only to find out that my car would not even run on the stock BIN. I went and found someone locally by asking around. I listened to everything they told me and I used and still rely on the boards for all kinds of problems I come across. You really need to find someone near you and talk to them. Ask them for help and do not be afriad to try things yourself. If you choose to do neither then you really need to contact someone like Ed Wright for instance.

And most of all remember you have to start somewhere. Who really cares if you ask the odd question that some may think is stupid? Does it matter to you and your ability to program the car?? NO. Just don't be afraid to keep at it and ask for help. The best thing you can do is get involved in it. Then things stop seeming so overwhelming.

 

Hmm, I don't think we are totally connected here.

My one point all along. If someone wants someone else to burn a chip for them, and someone would like to burn one for that person, they should be told where the can get together on this board so they can give it a go and not bother posting on the wrong board. All we know from the urgent warning is where these people are NOT allowed to get together and discuss that.

The DIY PROM should also have a message to these people to get together on their regional board for instance. That is why I put this on the suggestion board.

So far it has been all disagreeing with that idea. Fine by me, the big bold lettering says it all. It must be the biggest problem with this whole board. I just was offering an idea to fix a problem. That is all I really have on it.

 

It's not the biggest problem, never was. TGO is not gonna be responsible for peoples PROM chips and we don't want that stuff on our boards, we'll show you how but we won't do it for you. If you find some1 that will do a PROM for you it's best to do it away from TGO through E-Mail. The whole purpose of that board is to show people how to do it themselves.

 

 

Now I am lost. Who said anything about TGO burning chips? Who officially is TGO then? 1 person, 2 or more? I did not say someone that is officially associated with TGO is the one to do the chip. ??

 

Like I said, if you find some1 that will do it from TGO, do it through PM or E-Mail, not on our boards. The boards aren't a chip service and we don't want to deal with peoples problems and arguements when something goes wrong, and when that does happen, people go crazy when it comes to PROMs for some reason. Not much more else to say, it's not gonna take place on the boards.

 

Exactly, PM or e-mail, but who? Someone would like to see if another user of the TGO boards would burn a chip for them or maybe just mod. a bin and send it to them. How do they find each other so they can communicate directly with each other? The DIY PROM says not there and it should say how these people can find each other so whatever you don't want to happen there doesn't.

Two people getting together on something doesn't have a damn thing to do with TGO because that is where they found each other.

I put an ad in the local 'free ads weekly' to have someone willing to help come out and work on my car with me. Someone answers the ad, comes out, gets my car just a zingin' and then pop, its all over, locked up. Am I to take it out on the paper because it is the guys fault? I hope that is not what you are saying.

Maybe I will have what you have said so far add up. But for now, no more needs to be said. This issue is as stale as what this site has become.

 

Stop complaining, look for knowledgable PROM guys and ask them, chances are they won't do it anyway. And with that, we have a lock.