"Hello Phantom Champ it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks. Why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?"


Why not give us back a non-tech board so I will have a reason to engage in conversation with another member?

 

what about a IRC chat server? that would keep that stuff off of the board but allow people to talk to others from here in a community area. Plus ya dont need to keep Non tech stuff for later searching by people so it going away after a few minutes wont matter.

 

All the older members come to see if the board got any better under new management and they are all disappointed... as they were when they left. The 'newer' guys have no idea of the knowledge base lost from back then.

Phantom, go find Jimbo and complain.

 

well what this site needs is a general chat area where we can just chat and BS in general. that would bring more people to the site. and that in turn would help get more people to contribute to the tech board. as it is right now people come for help then leave but if it was more of a Community you would get lots more regular visitors and a much bigger bunch of people so you would have a better chance of finding that one person who has had the same problem that you have and how they fixed it.

 

A general chat section would be nice, but it would require alot of moderators because every second topic would get turned into a big **** storm...

 

Again why i think a IRC chat room would be best.

 

So let it turn into a **** storm or just have a 'Dump' to move those threads into it. All the other big sites that make their owner's money seem to be able to handle it.

 

even if it did get all full of crap Id rather have it there than in the Tech boards. just in the time i have been on this site from when i joined i have noticed a sharp reduction in participation. when i joined my fist question had 20+ posts in under an hour and none were the stupid SEARCH that ya get now. i can understand telling someone to do a search for say the swap mauals but if there just asking a simple little thing just answer them. most of the time the answers they are looking for are buried under tons on nonsense crap. Now i see new member post a simple question and they get only 2 or 3 responses in 1 or 2 days and they are all SEARCH. thats why i always answer if i can. I even answer the VACUME caused problems.

 

But then it spills over onto the tech boards.

I don't see why all these people who want a lounge don't just join another site to BS on.

 

But don't you want to keep people here???

Shouldn't even fight it and give folks what they want. If they just go somewhere else to chat like you suggest, why come back?

Long as you set up the right sections so there is a place for everything.......
Nothing spills over.

But when you share a common intrest you want to share more.
You wanna BS with the guys you hang out with. And keeping folk on the site as long as possiable should be a key goal.

here is an example
BuickThunder.com "Think Outside The Bowtie" :: View Forum - Chit Chat
Chit Chat
Subforums: The Park Bench, The Club House, Current Events, Marty's Movie Reviews, Name That Tune, Toonsville, Scale Model / RC / Hot Wheels, Politics & Government, International Affairs, Securities, Ask Mr. Science, All Things Motorized, Sports, Guns and Ammo, Polls, Off Topic, Uncategorized, Motorcycle, Car / Truck


That or maybe let someone else start an official TGO chat board. Cause telling folks to go else where is not good for the board. If ya don't want it here, set it up else where.

 

Ya theres not much activity on any of the tech boards i use so why hang around?

 

It does spill over.

Bob starts a post on the Non-Tech board that people don't agree with. It turns into a flame war. Everyone bashes Bob, yada yada yada..

Then, Bob has a question about his car. He posts it on the tech board. The people who were bashing him on the Non-Tech board come over and bash him in his tech post.

It already happens with redraif and it happened with FLYINLOW92RS and iroc2nv. For those who are not familiar with them, they had or have cars that were not the traditional thirdgens, to say the least. They would ask a question or post something and eventually some idiot would say "Oh, by the way, ur car is gay LOLZ. U should go die and burn ur car! OMG!" and ruin the thread.

The board has been fine without a non-tech board. It has grown quite a bit. A lot of people like it where they can look up something they are having a problem with and not have to sift through a bunch of garbage.

 

so that's why flyinlow92rs left. I saw him on ls1tech about a month ago though. I liked his car

Check out ls1tech.com, seriously, stuff does NOT spill over into flame wars in the tech sections. There's some gentle chiding, but really all it does is add to the community. Christ just give the members what they want...

 

I didn't mean to say thats why he left, I don't know why exactly he left.

Some members want it, some don't. I know there are people who want no part of it and will probably leave if TGO goes non-tech.

We've been doing fine without it, now all of a sudden everyone is crying about it. I don't get it.

 

Because this is hands down the best site for thirdgens. 100% dedicated to thirdgens. Thats what keeps people coming back.

 

I'm new to this board and had previously only come here to do the AIR elimination. I am a member ona couple other boards and most of them dont even deal with our cars or are strictly 4th gen based. The few people who have 3rd gens have worked on maybe 3 cars in their life and hack their car and then share that wisdom with the others.

I'm not sure what the board used to be, but is still pretty informative in a relatively short amount of time. Im used to having to wait like 3 days for a relavant response on most other tech boards.

Lets face it, most seasoned techs don't sit behind their computer all night typing responses to other peoples questions who live across the country just to have to get up the next morning and do it all day at their job. There are some technical questions that I have had trouble getting a response to but then again, this is an online site and it is pretty difficult to accurately diagnose a cars problem without even looking at it relying on someones description and data hoping they are telling all that is going on or even know what they are looking at.

Just my 2 cents. I like this forum and if it was better before Im only sorry I wasn't here then.

 

I hear that guy,,

I hav noticed since all the changes all of sections are like ghost town.
1/3 or less activity.....

 

You so easily forget its the members that make this site great.
Each person has their own parts. Don't give the people what they want......

And all someone has to do is start a copy cat site but open up some chat boards and they will be the new #1 3rd gen site.

cause #1 of all forum is people like to ask question and talk it out. All the content in the world means nothing when 99% of new active users will not search. They want to talk it out.

Though there is a small majority that just searches and never talks.

But it is your site. But id be checking over server logs and how long folks visit the forum, before after and during.

general chat already spills over into tech , cause there is no off tech section. Just most of the mods ignore it.

 

like i said since i joined it went from craploads of new posts to like 2 a day. i can remember logging on and every day there would be atleast one whole PAGE of new topics or active ones. now ya cant find more than 2 on a normal day and mabe 5 or 6 of a busy day.

 

I never said the members didn't make the site. Of course without members, it wouldn't exist. Don't give the people what they want? Do you know how many members we have? I've seen maybe 20 people arguing about an OT section.

It's not that easy. Believe me, I've been around enough.

There is nothing wrong with that once in a while.

When you joined there was no OT, and there is no OT now. Why would you think it's because we don't have an OT section?

 

the whole atmosphere of the site has changed i dont know why but it has and i think that having an open chat would help bring back the way it was. that and if people would answer posts rather than the SEARCH thing. Every other site i have ever joined has had a open chat or lounge area and they have no problems. I havent had a real question to ask for 6+ months and i used to comeback so i could help people out but i find that it is getting so dead around here i dont even check the site but mabe 2 times a week. i just watch my email. I guess i have come to like hanging out here but there is no longer nuch of a reason to so, cause even tho i dont have much experiance on some things i do know how i fixed my cars problems so if someone asks i could help them. which i do but not if im not around to see the post asking for help. There is just less and less to bring me back.

 

Not sure you were around for the non-tech stuff, I can’t remember when we lost that exactly but you were probably in on the tail end of that. But I’ll tell you the main reason we should have it and not have to go to another site for it:

Main Entry: com•mu•ni•ty
Pronunciation: k&-'myü-n&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English comunete, from Middle French comuneté, from Latin communitat-, communitas, from communis
1 : a unified body of individuals: as a : STATE, COMMONWEALTH b : the people with common interests living in a particular area; broadly : the area itself <the problems of a large community> c : an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location d : a group of people with a common characteristic or interest living together within a larger society <a community of retired persons> e : a group linked by a common policy f : a body of persons or nations having a common history or common social, economic, and political interests <the international community> g : a body of persons of common and especially professional interests scattered through a larger society <the academic community>

And I’ll tell you the reason the new owners should add it:

Main Entry: 1mon•ey
Pronunciation: 'm&-nE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural moneys or mon•ies /'m&-nEz/
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English moneye, from Middle French moneie, from Latin moneta mint, money -- more at MINT
1 : something generally accepted as a medium of exchange, a measure of value, or a means of payment: as a : officially coined or stamped metal currency b : MONEY OF ACCOUNT c : PAPER MONEY

As for spilling over into the tech board, that’s why moderators exist.

That is crap. Poor choice for an example. She is so wholly protected on this site it’s bogus at this point. Most just can’t stand her ‘better than thou’ attitude considering how bogus her car is and the crap she slings about it. It's like listening to a rice expound on how fast and powerful his car is and all the McDonald's parking lot monkey-spank associated with that mindset.

Go look in on a thread that was removed a while back. I was going at it with her mainly about technical issues and the thread was removed because she was getting her *** handed to her. Three wings that work my ***. Great tech there I tell ya!

The main problem the mods have is that they think it’s going to be oh-so-difficult to handle.

And some members would come back and there is a better chance that new ones would stay or stay longer, etc.

As for why the current outcry? Simple. Dirk sold so now people see the opportunity to actually get it re-done. There is no baggage to it with the new owners.

Riiiiight… so what’s the actual member activity relationally to the registered member base? Simply put, your statement is fallacious and unbased.

Yea, too bad that practice isn't universally enforced, nor is it enforced with any degree of uniformity.

The bottom line is that you guys are pushing against it to the new owners when in reality they should just have put it up to further their own agenda of purchasing this site. Maybe they should put up a universal poll… and probably not let the mods vote.

The sad truth is I know about six right off the top of my head that don't come here anymore. This site is but a shadow of what it once was and if it doesn't get some quality people making open minded decisions it's going to stay that way.

Bah. The new owners will get it when they either need to pull this into the black or get tired of making it just get by. Or they'll turn and sell or just let the site go to hell. Should have been sold to a thirdgen enthusiast.

 

 

A properly administered site will not have problems with lounge material spilling over to the tech boards.

Mature members and level headed moderators help too.

We've had no such problems over at LS1LT1.com - Powered by vBulletin since we started last August. 1,300 members and counting....

BTW, 3rd gens are welcome there, we even have a forum for ya...

 

I don't know where you get your info, but it is 100% incorrect.

Last week (3/31-4/6) saw 1505 new threads, 11626 new posts, and 352 new members. All three numbers are a huge increase over weeks earlier this year, especially the new members stat. For the rest of 2006, the highest number of new members was 234. This week is looking to be another record breaker.

 

Ummm, ok?

Wow, and that was in the technical section too huh?

So these members "left". So apparently they are not a fan of the technical section. So we open a offtopic, and they come back and talk in offtopic. How is that going to help? They come for strictly offtopic, but are going to click on car ad's?

Okkkkkkay, look at the active users then, then look in this thread.

There is nothing wrong with it, it's harmless as long as the whole thread dosent go offtopic.

Just like we are pushing against it, you are pushing for it. But when it comes down to it, it is their decision.


Yea, there is a lot of that going around.

 

It's also worth mentioning that the number of active users/week (to be defined as someone who posts at least once during the measured period) last week is about 10% higher than when compared to the numbers from earlier this year, the week before was the same.

 

Apparently you missed the point entirely.

Whole site is supposed to be 'technical'. You still overlook the main point of that.

They came back for the sense of community, that point you obviously are having problems with. Most had a good amount of knowledge with regard to these cars. Many started some private boards and those are chugging along well. You have to remember though that they ALL were here at one point or another. They will click on ads, but right now they are clicking on those ads at other sites. Not here. Get your personal feelings out of it and start thinking of this as a business.

How does that relate to a business measure? I think you are missing my points entirely and may have me confused with some of the younger members of the board.

Same can be said for off-topic. Additionally you guys are acting like people wil stop coming here for tech info if there is an off-topic section. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm not exactly pushing for it, but more pushing the opposing view point. From a business perspective it is inevitable. The sooner it's done the better for the business end of the sight.

Again, you assume profit without looking at the whole picture. As I said, it will happen, sooner or later, if they want to maximize profit, they have to maximize active users.

 

I'm not arguing anymore. Not worth typing 6 pages trying to get you to understand. Obviously we are not on the same page.

 

Red Devil - The mods dont own the site or think they own the site so you need to get that out of ur head that all the BS you ramble off about profits and keeping the site going is not there concern. Its the new owners concern, Go bitch to them.

Seriously get over it, if its gonna get made in the future no matter what then let it. If its not then its not. Like said there has not been prolly 20 real people arguing FOR an OT board. There are a lot more members then TWENTY. You havent been here forever just like i havent you dont get the call if the site will change or not. Just drop the topic...damn.

Also for ur reference, i too would enjoy a lounge but i dont care either way. Its not my site, and its not gonna come to rescue to change just for me or you or the 20 others so just deal with the way it is and appreciate it for what it is.

 

I never got why people are so against searching. A little effort can save you time. If you make a post, then you have to wait however long to get a reply. If you play with the search for a little bit, chances are you can find what you needed in less time than you would have waited to get a reply.


And Red Devil-
No, I was not here when the non-tech boards were around. I believe I came shortly after the site came back up, but I'm not sure. As for redraif- I am not protecting her car at all. In fact, I did see the thread you are talking about (or I believe it is what you are talking about) and I actually enjoyed it. I do not remember how it all started or the details, but its the sort of thing I can see happening. I've seen threads she's posted where out of no where, some makes a comment about her car (even when her car is not the subject of the thread). Then she reacts, people jump in and it gets out of hand. As for the "Off-topic" stuff not being enforced by all the moderators all the time, thats because different boards are more tech than others. Detailing and Appearance isn't very technical (I know you agree ) and there are a lot of things I was told to let slide because some members bitched and moaned when I would lock things that were off-topic. Regional boards are supposed to be more relaxed. And on top of that, some of us are more strict than others. Thats just how its going to be unless we have only one moderator.

Either way, I wish the owners would make a statement about this issue because its not mine or anyone else's choice. If they do it, we'll see what happens. If not, I hope people will give it up already and go back to using the boards like they have been for years.

 

Because there's no instant gratification of having someone do the work for you. I'll save the tangent but, I've watched people ask common questions that can be found in roughly 15 seconds on GOOGLE. People are lazy and want to be spoonfed.

You mean it can survive like it has the past 6+ years w/o OT ?? No way!
(yes, I was here when it went down, under a different screen name,... yes it was a pathetic display of group idealogy or mentality.. pick your poison).

 

I was meaning that the boards are geting so swamped with those topics that the answer they get is to search that it is getting harder to find the ones that do have good info. I agree that some things are perty stupid to ask before searching like say a rough idle problem that is 90% of the time a vac leak. but if the last 50 times that people have asked that question all they have gotten is the search thing your gonna have a long and hard time finding the one that actually answers it. Google sucks for finding anything about our cars.

 

While I certainly agree saying 'search' alone is pointless but, just with the laziness.. it's easier to say search alone than post a helpful link along with.

We all know Google is most useful for irrelevant links to sites not even remotely related to the search query or... ****. G-- help you if you ever press the 'I'm feeling lucky' button.
The Google comment was meant as that though. I have found answers to some peoples questions within 15 seconds using Google... that's pure laziness to make the effort yourself. (eg: 'Where can I find a 3/8 standard thread bolt?')

People to lazy to do some research themselves is an entire different issue and not related to this topic though.
Sometimes even simple punctuation is too tough....

 

The section I visit are a good 1/3 down on post. I use to need to log in twice a day to keep up with new post but since the changes. Only every few days do I need to check.

think the big problem is you guys should not have shut down the board for the upgrade. You make a general annoucement that from this date forward all messages may be lost during the up grade. You then copy the fourm and upgrade the copy, then rename n switch things around when it works right.

Instead of having the board down for so long.

I think your just to comfy with the member count here and don't realize what your losing out on. And there is no way to explain it, you wont get it unless you have started a forum from nothing but the drive to provide a quality service and hel your fellow riders. I would not have the #1 Virago forum if I ran things like around here. My lowly 1500+ member count wont impress you unless you experiance the kind of work it takes to get there.


Right now you can afford to do anything you want cause this is the best 3rd gen site. But being #1 out a bunch of crappy sites isn't that great. Not that this site is crappy, its good [not great] but the other ones around now are all craptastic.

But all I can say again is I would open a chat forum off site.
Set it up so its not really even part of the forum software.
Let someone else patrol it. Have a disclaimer that TGO is not resp for crap said there. But make it the official OT forum. That way people have no reason to leave the TGO network. Why you keep wanting to tell folks to go else where is dumb. Because you have no idea what you got here and are blinded by what you think are great member or post numbers.
They cuold be much much better.

 

I don't disagree with any of you, but I will say that when I want to know something, sell something or buy something for my car I come hear first. A chat room? I think that would be nice, but is it necessary?

All I can say is to everyone out there thats helped

Rich

 

Our pleasure... really!

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...en-2005-a.html

Do we really need a bunch of threads like this on here? A whole board for them? I don't think so.

A chat room wouldn't be a bad idea. We had one before and it never hurt anything.

And Gumby- just for the record, I don't believe the new owners told people to go elsewhere (unless I missed it in another post). I think it was only me and maybe a couple other moderators. The mods don't have anything to do with owning the site. So anything we say is not coming from the owners. It was just my own personal opinion that if people want to BS on an off-topic board, the can go somewhere else to do it. I didn't mean they should leave this board and never come back. But of course, thats their decision.

I do wish the new owners would comment on it so these kind of threads can stop, though.

 

Nicely said. That post and posts like it are the exact reason non-tech is not wanted here.

 

Well, as a moderator for another car site and an owner of a couple non-car sites, I can easily see both sides of the argument of "for" and "against" an off-topic section.

Basically, the OT section requires a LOT of extra moderation. And that means RESPONSIBLE, RESPECTFUL moderation. If you have a GOOD group of moderators, an OT section is a valuable asset to a site, and does NOT lead to "spill-off" in other sections (because it is quickly edited out by the moderators right off the bat, so people learn it isn't even worth doing later 'cause the Mod's will just kill it later anyway, so why bother). It's no secret that most of the biggest, most successful car sites on the web all have OT sections AND a large number of moderators.

Personally, I feel that your boy Guido was way out of line in that "example" thread. MetalliCamaroRS, you DO have a point that moderators are people with opinions too, however by accepting the JOB of moderator there is an inherent responsibility to "keep the peace" regardless of your own feelings. I know plenty of cops who are very much against seat belts and seat belt laws, but when they are on the job they have to enforce the rules whether they agree with them or not - their personal opinion becomes irrelevant. Writing disparaging comments and calling another member's car a "r,i,c,e,r" is NOT being a responsible moderator, in my opinion. It is THAT kind of behavior from one of your own moderators why you should not have an OT section; Moderators have to lead by example, and if they aren't mature enough to do so, then you DEFINITELY are going to have problems. Guido was just as guilty in the degeneration of that thread as anyone else was. When a moderator starts dishing out insults, it tells everyone else involved that it is "acceptable" to do so as well (not to mention it causes negative feelings that just plain tick people off and make them disregard rules anyway - that's just human nature.)

Also, if it was my site and one of my moderators was telling people to "go elsewhere," they would NOT be a moderator for very long! As Gumby stated, "growing" a site from scratch is a monumental task that makes you appreciate each and every member. When you start driving them off due to personal opinions, just be prepared to reap what you sow....... there are plenty of "big" sites who became ghost towns too. Hopefully this site will not turn into the latest member of THAT statistic. Just because this site has lots of members and plenty of new members coming in does NOT mean you should start pushing people away. Think about it for a second: There will NEVER be increase in the number of 3rd gen f-body owners, simply because they don't make them anymore! And there are plenty of people getting rid of their f-bodies for something newer that won't NEED this site anymore. So while the membership may be increasing now, it stands to reason that it is a TEMPORARY situation at best. How many people will still own a 3rd gen f-body in another 5 years? 10 years? Just my opinion, but you should set your sights on what is down the road just as much as the here and now. 10 years from now, this site is going to need every single member it can get, 'cause there just simply won't be that many 25-30 year old cars still operational enough for people to give a damn about.

In summary, I think an OT section is a great idea....... when the new Administration (including and especially the moderators) are ready to handle it. That day may or may not ever come, based on the number of moderators available and the behavior/leadership standards to which they are held.

The new site looks great overall! Good job with the upgrade, and I hope to continue to be able to use it as a valuable resource of tech info, regardless of whether there is non-tech sections or not.

 

A sad fact in itself.


What you're forgetting is the moderator can only edit/control in the forum they control.
They can't control the 'spill-off' in other forums nor the group mentality that follows the initiator.

It only takes one person to ruin a good thing for everyone.

 

I disagree. Good moderators act as a TEAM. Even when they have individual sections that they have access to, there should be an extra section that is viewable only by them and the admins, where they can point out troublemakers, discuss deleted threads, account for what and why certain threads/posts got edited, etc. When the Team concept is used, everything works pretty smoothly in that regard. BUT - you have to have the "right" moderators, as I said before.

And again, even withOUT the OT section, there are going to be flame wars and such that moderators are going to have to deal with, and SHOULD NOT be a part of (as in instigating). "Spill-off" only happens for a short time until the troublemakers get sick of their usernames getting banned and their posts edited/deleted. Once policy is made and the Admins/moderators STRICTLY enforce it as a TEAM, people do fall in line. Sometimes it takes a little while (along with the obvious growing pains while certain people test their boundaries like the adolescents they are), but eventually sites DO become easily managable. LS1tech is a prime example, as are many others.

Having said all that, it has already been stated on another thread that there will NOT be on off-topic section on this site, period. And I'm not trying to argue that their should be. However, even a tech-only site IS going to have the same problems with the same individuals. I simply don't think it is right that moderators are insulting members or telling them to go elsewhere. It is NOT good for the site. Period.

 

Steve, I never said they owned it, I was debating a topic that has been discussed much more than in just this thread. You obviously don't read too well because I don't see any 'BS' that I rambled off. The profit side is of concern when the board is a for profit board. At least it is on other boards I'm on. Can't see why it should be different here.

What's wrong with discussing it? If you don't like it, don't click the thread or don't type a damn response. I have nothing to 'get over'. My personal position is not the same as my argued position. Many of the mods and some admins know that. Since you don't, and are not this board’s ‘mod’, you are in no position to attempt to reprimand me or to force me to tow onto your line of thought.

89formula has mentioned many of the points I have. Only time will tell if the site can sustain a profit while excluding OT. I will guarantee if the site spends a good amount in or near the red, you will see changes, that's just good business.

 

Hope I'm not double posting this..

History lesson 101:

This site DID have a non-tech board, with a thirdgen. address. It has ALSO had non-tech boards hosted elsewhere linked directly, not to mention that most members (including myself) traveled to NE3G to talk non-tech when the 'big crash' happened. Now they've had problems, more than once I might add. That happened on the non-tech board that wasnt directly hosted here as well. Maybe its not so much the actual use of tech and non-tech, whether its on this site or not and directly or indirectly linked, but rather the PEOPLE posting are the problem. I wont mention any names (cant, I'm not innocent) but you put a few people from here in the same room and bring up some subjects that should be banned forever and next thing you know you have a war.

Good luck moderating it. I have said it before but you have to make a set of rules and STICK TO IT. Once you allow some things by or bend here and there, make special exceptions, etc. you're going to have a problem on your hands. Not to mention inevitably you are going to **** people off no matter what you do. Making changes in the background in secret and undoing all that was done in the past doesnt help things either, everyone from the top down needs to be on the same page (and that page should be known to all) or you may as well start pissing in the wind.

Recently I have been at another site that has had problems with their non-tech that was never a problem before and IMO was quite clean and problem free. Just came up out of the blue. Now its like a war zone. Probably the worst part is there are rules that are not being followed by the admins and moderators (Problem #1), and there are different rules for certain people (Problem #2), certain people read:vendors. Avoid those and you'll avoid a whole bunch of issues.

 

Oh Gawd I just got back since the post-management changover whatever. WHAT THE F*CK HAPPEND AROUND HERE? I used to love this site, but this new format is crap. I tried to use the new and improved search engine to search for "jacksonville" 'cuz I'm moving there and thought I might see if there are a few members who also live there.

AND THE SEARCH ENGINE FOUND 0 POSTS WITH THAT WORD??

So I searched it again on advanced, and the server told me I had done something bad and had to wait a few minutes to try again????

THIS SITE WILL DIE A MISERABLE DEATH, WHICH IS SO SAD BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL BOARD SITES ON THE WEB.

 

This is the second time you've gone off on a rant in the past 20 minutes. If you keep bypassing the swear filter, typing in all caps, and insulting this board, the members, the staff, and the new owners then you're going to be banned.

 

I am pretty sure the "search" feature searches threads/thread titles. Not member profiles, where locations are present.

 

Amen. We have that happen now without the non-tech dontchaknow.

Bah. Like I said before, only time will tell. The board will change as it's main purpose has. How depends on what the future brings.
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You'd be better off visiting the regional board and actually posting. I don't understand searching for members that way. Were you going to just PM them out of the blue???
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Though I still hate the automerge. Just confuses posts.

 

No, just threads is fine. I've seen a lot where people are talking about how much they paid for service, or asking where they can get some type of work done, and people start mentioning the city/area where they live. I've seen it a lot in the emissions discussions too. I'm just surprised with the tens o thousands of posts, the word jacksonville has never appeared in all these years. I'll check the regional forums instead.

So how many posts are required now for senior member status? Something else that was lost along the way...

 

It appears there may be a legitimate search engine problem. If you go here:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/sout...thirdgens.html

You will see the word Jacksonville listed at least three times (although I admit it's misspelled once). But if you do a search on Jacksonville, it lists no results.

Now I think that's an error?