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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 05:19 AM
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Thinking of going super ram

i have a line on a accel super ram and am debating going for it. Is there going to be a lot of tuning involved to get it to run correctly from what I have now? I have Arizona speed and marine runners with an Edelbrock base and a mild port to the plenum.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 06:37 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

For just the manifold change, my guess is no tuning needed at all, even if its speed density.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 06:55 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

Go for it. Labor intensive to install but have at it.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

I already have a good amount of tuning done since nothing is stock in my motor. When it was broken in on the dyno it made peak hp at 5400 rpms. It was broken in with a carb however. With the tuned port it runs it if breath around 5k or a tad above. I’m just hoping to get a bit more top end and hopefully not lose any or much low end grunt.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 04:00 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

I've always been a fan of the SuperRam. Is that Eddy base ported or not? I think on a hot 355 ci motor, that's gonna be the question. The SR will probably shine if the base can support it. If not, well....not so much. As I mentioned, I've always been a fan of the SR, but it'd be hard for me NOT to go Stealthram. I'm running a heavily ported custom TPI, and as much as I'd love to go SR, I imagine I'll go HSR when the time comes.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 04:47 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

No as far as I know the Edelbrock base is stock. The superram does come with another base but it is probably not ported either and I really didn’t want to get into pulling the lower intake to do this. So basically it might not be worth me doing the swap is what your saying?
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:10 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

As to how it'll perform, I can't say. I would guess that with your set up now, it's not holding you back. With the superram, I'd guess it would. What I know, is that an aftermarket base is better than stock, but not by a huge margin. Porting goes a long way.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 09:05 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

I spent a lot of time reading about the SR before snagging the one...sitting in my basement. The common thread leaving aside all the other variables is it best preserved the down low torque of all the a-m intakes.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 09:18 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

I spent a lot of time reading about the SR before snagging the one...sitting in my basement. The common thread leaving aside all the other variables is it best preserved the down low torque of all the a-m intakes.
Agreed, and that's very important on a stock engine. Once you've built an engine though.....preserving that torque isn't really a big deal. Torque is fun, but most of us are losing traction long before we run out of torque. LOL...says the guy with a 383 TPI, lol!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 09:22 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

What the going price for a sr ?
I have seen a couple on eBay minus the base go for around $1,200.

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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 10:01 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

I have 4 superrams. But I have a bit of a sentimental attachment. Been working on letting a couple go when I get some time.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 10:03 PM
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Wow 4 I only have two and thought I might be a hoarder lol.
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Old Jul 25, 2018 | 06:23 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

Haha - the vintage gear is the next funnest thing to the car itself!

I also recall many complaints about spark plug access. I suppose that’s the price you pay for the cool look when you pop the hood. From a purely aesthetic POV the HSR and miniram replace the equally bad *** TPI stock look with those awesome runners with a rather boring LT1 look- just my opinion. That FIRST intake which they amazingly still make is also pretty cool too.
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Old Jul 25, 2018 | 07:40 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

Spark plug access has nothing to do with the superram. That’s the heads/exhaust.
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Old Jul 25, 2018 | 07:49 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

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Wow 4 I only have two and thought I might be a hoarder lol.
You're a hoarder. Better send one to me before you end up on TLC.
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Old Jul 25, 2018 | 08:15 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

It seems people are asking around 1000 for them. I found one complete with nos plate and wiring harness and an accel computer for 650 which is why I’m debating. I just don’t know if it will be a big noticeable gain from where I am now. I actually do like the big tube runners a lot and the car does pull hard just not over 5200
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

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I found one complete with nos plate and wiring harness and an accel computer for 650 which is why I’m debating. I just don’t know if it will be a big noticeable gain from where I am now.
It will be if you run the nitrous
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 12:31 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

I loved the superram with the 383 and the LPE 219 cam. I could roast the tires at 50mph when the trans kicked down all day long. I think my 383 ran out of breath around 5600-5800 with the superram with that cam from what i remember.

If you move to the stealthram or miniram or single plane you will make more top end power to 6500 but will loose bottom end and midrange.

If you ever read Lingenfelters book, he concentrated on avg hp and avg tq through the powerband and not on peak numbers. The superram will make more avg hp and tq than the other intakes.
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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 08:07 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

Originally Posted by subroc
i have a line on a accel super ram and am debating going for it. Is there going to be a lot of tuning involved to get it to run correctly from what I have now? I have Arizona speed and marine runners with an Edelbrock base and a mild port to the plenum.
I love my SuperRam intake, except installing it or removing it. Lol. Mine is well modified and will build power well into the 6,000 rpm and up. I shift around 6,300. However it doesn't breath as good as the MiniRam above 6000 rpm. I've had both on with the same engine set up. The SuperRam builds noticably more mid-range power. I believe has far at total HP the MiniRam will win but for overall drivability the SuperRam wins specially with an automatic. My e.t. is 11.68@115.7 with the SuperRam and 11.75@115 with the MiniRam. Both intakes drive nice but the SR just has a better mid-range feel. I'm using the Dynamic FI ebl to run both intakes and I'll say the MR was much easier to tune. If you're still using the MAF system it should run ok with a good performance chip.
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

Ive got a super ram thats been ported pretty far. Then the base was built up and ports ported out to match a 1206 gasket. That sits on top of a set of fastburn heads that were also port matched. I wasnt sure how it would work out. But it pulls good to 6300 on my 358. I have no dyno proof though. Im contemplating what 10-12 psi will do on thais setup.....
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 09:24 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

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Ive got a super ram thats been ported pretty far. Then the base was built up and ports ported out to match a 1206 gasket. That sits on top of a set of fastburn heads that were also port matched. I wasnt sure how it would work out. But it pulls good to 6300 on my 358. I have no dyno proof though. Im contemplating what 10-12 psi will do on thais setup.....
How do you like the setup with the fastburn heads? Did you have to use a Vortec base with those? Always wanted to build a similar setup. You looking at blower or turbo?
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 09:26 PM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

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I loved the superram with the 383 and the LPE 219 cam. I could roast the tires at 50mph when the trans kicked down all day long. I think my 383 ran out of breath around 5600-5800 with the superram with that cam from what i remember.

If you move to the stealthram or miniram or single plane you will make more top end power to 6500 but will loose bottom end and midrange.

If you ever read Lingenfelters book, he concentrated on avg hp and avg tq through the powerband and not on peak numbers. The superram will make more avg hp and tq than the other intakes.
Thats a good book, read through it many times.
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 07:35 AM
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Re: Thinking of going super ram

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How do you like the setup with the fastburn heads? Did you have to use a Vortec base with those? Always wanted to build a similar setup. You looking at blower or turbo?
I like it. I used the acce base, but it had been modified to fit a larger gasket. So the head ports were modified to match. I paid 400 bux for the heads with low time on em. Witch was good cause I wasnt sure how it was gonna be modifying the ports.Normally you would use a vortech base do to thr ports. The fastburns have bolt holes for new and old style manifolds at least though. Lookin at a blower.
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