my plans for a lo3
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From: Freindswood
Car: 1989 rs camaro
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: auto
my plans for a lo3
This is what I am going to do over the next 6 months to a year to my LO3 5.0 305 is it possible with a good tune to get in to the low 11s high 10s. I am committed to being a odd ball so I will stay with the 305 and not go with a 350 and stroke it. But let me know what all think and a supper charger or nitrous will be after this what do yall think will work better. I will do a DYI artical on the parts with pics as it all slowly comes in
thanks in advance yall
327 double hump camel cylinder heads $180
3.42 Positive traction by true track $357
COMP Cams Magnum Steel Roller Tip Rockers 1.6 $192
COMP Cams Magnum Hydraulic Roller Cam and Lifter Kits $781.39
COMP Cams Hydraulic Roller Lifter 1.6 Installation Kits $90
Wiseco Pro Tru Forged Piston Kits $525
Holley Street Dominator Intake Manifolds $128
Holley Carburetor and Throttle Body Adapters $52
Hooker Super Competition Cat-Back Exhaust Systems $280
Hooker Super Competition Headers $390
Dynomax Super Converters $90
Melling Performance Oil Pumps $60
BBK High-Volume Performance Electric Fuel Pump $130
Fel-Pro Gasket Kit Sets $104
Federal Mogul CH-Series Rod Bearings $53
Edelbrock Accu-Drive Gear Drives $160
Cam info
Cam Style:
Hydraulic roller tappet
Basic Operating RPM Range:
3,000-6,500 RPM
Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift:
244
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift:
244
Duration at 050 inch Lift:
244 int./244 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration:
304
Advertised Exhaust Duration:
304
Advertised Duration:
304 int./304 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:
0.600 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:
0.600 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:
0.600 int./0.600 exh. lift
Lobe Separation (degrees):
110
Intake Valve Lash:
0.000 in.
Exhaust Valve Lash:
0.000 in.
Grind Number:
CS 304H-R10
Computer Controlled Compatible:
No
Lifters Included:
Yes
Lifter Style:
Hydraulic roller
Valve Springs Included:
Yes
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in):
1.430 in.
Retainers Included:
Yes
Locks Included:
Yes
Valve Stem Seals Included:
Yes
Timing Chain and Gears Included:
Yes
Timing Chain Style:
Double non-roller
Assembly Lubricant Included:
Yes
Pushrods Included:
No
Rocker Arms Included:
No
Gaskets Included:
No
Intake info
Engine Block Style:
Stock/OEM standard deck
Carburetor Quantity:
Single
Intake Style:
Dual plane
Basic Operating RPM Range:
Idle-7,200 RPM
Intake Finish:
Natural
Intake Material:
Aluminum
EGR:
No
header info
Header Material:
Steel
Header Finish:
Painted
Header Style:
Shorty
Primary Tube Diameter (in):
1 5/8 in.
Collector Diameter (in):
3.000 in.
Tuned:
Yes
Primary Tube Gauge:
18-gauge
Collector Attachment:
Stock flange
Cylinder Head Port Shape:
Oval
Flange Style:
Standard
Flange Thickness (in):
5/16 in.
Bolts/Studs Included:
Yes
Gaskets Included:
Yes
Reducers Included:
No
Y-Pipe Included:
Yes
Quantity:
Sold as a pair.
Exhaust info
Exit Quantity:
Dual
Exit Location:
Split rear
System Material:
Steel
System Finish:
Aluminized
System Style:
Cat-back
Muffler Included:
Yes
Intermediate Pipe Diameter (in):
3.000 in.
Tailpipe Diameter (in):
2.500 in.
Cat info
Inlet Quantity:
Single
Inlet Diameter (in):
3.000 in.
Converter Inlet Attachment:
Stock flange
Outlet Quantity:
Single
Outlet Diameter (in):
3.000 in.
Converter Outlet Attachment:
Stock flange
AIR Tube:
No
Converter Case Material:
Stainless steel
Converter Substrate Material:
Ceramic honeycomb
Heat Shield:
Yes
Converter Style:
2-way/3-way
thanks in advance yall
327 double hump camel cylinder heads $180
3.42 Positive traction by true track $357
COMP Cams Magnum Steel Roller Tip Rockers 1.6 $192
COMP Cams Magnum Hydraulic Roller Cam and Lifter Kits $781.39
COMP Cams Hydraulic Roller Lifter 1.6 Installation Kits $90
Wiseco Pro Tru Forged Piston Kits $525
Holley Street Dominator Intake Manifolds $128
Holley Carburetor and Throttle Body Adapters $52
Hooker Super Competition Cat-Back Exhaust Systems $280
Hooker Super Competition Headers $390
Dynomax Super Converters $90
Melling Performance Oil Pumps $60
BBK High-Volume Performance Electric Fuel Pump $130
Fel-Pro Gasket Kit Sets $104
Federal Mogul CH-Series Rod Bearings $53
Edelbrock Accu-Drive Gear Drives $160
Cam info
Cam Style:
Hydraulic roller tappet
Basic Operating RPM Range:
3,000-6,500 RPM
Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift:
244
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift:
244
Duration at 050 inch Lift:
244 int./244 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration:
304
Advertised Exhaust Duration:
304
Advertised Duration:
304 int./304 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:
0.600 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:
0.600 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:
0.600 int./0.600 exh. lift
Lobe Separation (degrees):
110
Intake Valve Lash:
0.000 in.
Exhaust Valve Lash:
0.000 in.
Grind Number:
CS 304H-R10
Computer Controlled Compatible:
No
Lifters Included:
Yes
Lifter Style:
Hydraulic roller
Valve Springs Included:
Yes
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in):
1.430 in.
Retainers Included:
Yes
Locks Included:
Yes
Valve Stem Seals Included:
Yes
Timing Chain and Gears Included:
Yes
Timing Chain Style:
Double non-roller
Assembly Lubricant Included:
Yes
Pushrods Included:
No
Rocker Arms Included:
No
Gaskets Included:
No
Intake info
Engine Block Style:
Stock/OEM standard deck
Carburetor Quantity:
Single
Intake Style:
Dual plane
Basic Operating RPM Range:
Idle-7,200 RPM
Intake Finish:
Natural
Intake Material:
Aluminum
EGR:
No
header info
Header Material:
Steel
Header Finish:
Painted
Header Style:
Shorty
Primary Tube Diameter (in):
1 5/8 in.
Collector Diameter (in):
3.000 in.
Tuned:
Yes
Primary Tube Gauge:
18-gauge
Collector Attachment:
Stock flange
Cylinder Head Port Shape:
Oval
Flange Style:
Standard
Flange Thickness (in):
5/16 in.
Bolts/Studs Included:
Yes
Gaskets Included:
Yes
Reducers Included:
No
Y-Pipe Included:
Yes
Quantity:
Sold as a pair.
Exhaust info
Exit Quantity:
Dual
Exit Location:
Split rear
System Material:
Steel
System Finish:
Aluminized
System Style:
Cat-back
Muffler Included:
Yes
Intermediate Pipe Diameter (in):
3.000 in.
Tailpipe Diameter (in):
2.500 in.
Cat info
Inlet Quantity:
Single
Inlet Diameter (in):
3.000 in.
Converter Inlet Attachment:
Stock flange
Outlet Quantity:
Single
Outlet Diameter (in):
3.000 in.
Converter Outlet Attachment:
Stock flange
AIR Tube:
No
Converter Case Material:
Stainless steel
Converter Substrate Material:
Ceramic honeycomb
Heat Shield:
Yes
Converter Style:
2-way/3-way
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From: Houston Texas
Car: 1989 IROC Z-28
Engine: L98 350--modified
Transmission: 700 R4--modified
Axle/Gears: 4:10 Posi
I can appreciate U wanting to be different and not one of the sheep!!
If U are going to stay with a 305, it will take either some radical pistons heads cam combination and even with that U will be disappointed. I t will definately take a blower, turbo or nitrous or a combination of those to un the kind of time U want!
If I may make a suggestion, get ahold of Owen @ ARD, and set a time to go over there and run this by him and see what he has to say. DO NOT just try and call him and talk to him over the phone. U need to go over and sit down with him so he can show U some things!! Take my word for it!!!!!!!!!!
Owen
ARD--Advanced Racing Dynamics
5023 Addicks Satsuma rd, Suite b,
Houston, Texas, 77084
832-593-9140
From I-10 and highway 6, go north past Keith Harrow till you reach Addicks Satsuma. Take a right turn and go about 100 yards down, and you will see the sign and it is located on the left in a business park.
If U are going to stay with a 305, it will take either some radical pistons heads cam combination and even with that U will be disappointed. I t will definately take a blower, turbo or nitrous or a combination of those to un the kind of time U want!
If I may make a suggestion, get ahold of Owen @ ARD, and set a time to go over there and run this by him and see what he has to say. DO NOT just try and call him and talk to him over the phone. U need to go over and sit down with him so he can show U some things!! Take my word for it!!!!!!!!!!
Owen
ARD--Advanced Racing Dynamics
5023 Addicks Satsuma rd, Suite b,
Houston, Texas, 77084
832-593-9140
From I-10 and highway 6, go north past Keith Harrow till you reach Addicks Satsuma. Take a right turn and go about 100 yards down, and you will see the sign and it is located on the left in a business park.
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From: Freindswood
Car: 1989 rs camaro
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: auto
thanks i hope for my can with nitrous and a root screw supper charger to be in the 9s so that is the over all goal i will call him on Monday and try to set some thing up with him on Tuesday my only day off this week
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From: Freindswood
Car: 1989 rs camaro
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: auto
I am going with iron eagle heads instead
Here are the specs
Cylinder Head Style:
Assembled
Cylinder Head Material:
Cast iron
Cylinder Head Finish:
Natural
Combustion Chamber Volume (cc):
72
CNC Machined Combustion Chamber:
No
Intake Runner Volume (cc):
165cc
Exhaust Runner Volume (cc):
65cc
CNC Machined Intake Runner:
No
CNC Machined Exhaust Runner:
No
Combustion Chamber Style:
Heart
Intake Port Location:
Standard
Exhaust Port Shape:
Square
Exhaust Port Location:
Standard
Spark Plug Style:
Straight
Intake Valves Included:
Yes
Intake Valve Diameter (in):
1.940 in.
Exhaust Valves Included:
Yes
Exhaust Valve Diameter (in):
1.500 in.
Valve Springs Included:
Yes
Maximum Valve Lift (in):
0.520 in.
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in):
1.250 in.
Damper Spring Included:
No
Number of Springs Per Valve:
Single
Retainers Included:
Yes
Retainer Material:
Steel
Locks Included:
Yes
Lock Style:
7 degree
Valve Stem Seals Included:
Yes
Valve Stem Seal Style:
PC seal
Rocker Arm Studs Included:
No
Rocker Arms Included:
No
Rocker Arm Nuts Included:
No
Guideplates Included:
Yes
Valve Cover Mounting Style:
Centerbolt
Accessory Bolt Holes Drilled:
Yes
Intake Valve Angle:
23
Exhaust Valve Angle:
23
Valve Guides Included:
Yes
Valve Guide Material:
Manganese bronze intake/Phosphorous bronze exhaust
Valve Seats Machined:
Yes
Valve Seat Machine Style:
4-angle intake/3-angle exhaust
Valve Seat Material:
Ductile iron
Steam Holes Drilled:
No
Oiling Style:
Through pushrod
Machined for O-Ring:
No
Heat Crossover:
No
Quantity:
Sold individually.
Notes:
Fits Vortec style intake manifolds also.
Ok here are the pistons specs
Bore (in):
3.796 in.
Bore (mm):
96.418mm
Piston Material:
Forged aluminum
Piston Style:
Flat
Compression Distance (in):
1.560 in.
Valve Reliefs:
Four
Piston Head Volume (cc):
+8.70cc
Wrist Pin Style:
Floating
Pin Diameter (in):
0.927 in.
Gapless:
No
File Fit:
No
Top Ring Thickness:
1/16 in.
Top Ring Material:
Iron
Top Ring Facing Material:
Plasma-moly
Second Ring Thickness:
1/16 in.
Second Ring Material:
Iron
Second Ring Facing Material:
Cast iron
Oil Ring Thickness:
3/16 in.
Oil Ring Material:
Stainless steel
Oil Ring Tension:
Standard
Quantity:
Sold as a kit.
Notes:
Approximate compression ratio with 67cc head: 8.6:1.
Here are the specs
Cylinder Head Style:
Assembled
Cylinder Head Material:
Cast iron
Cylinder Head Finish:
Natural
Combustion Chamber Volume (cc):
72
CNC Machined Combustion Chamber:
No
Intake Runner Volume (cc):
165cc
Exhaust Runner Volume (cc):
65cc
CNC Machined Intake Runner:
No
CNC Machined Exhaust Runner:
No
Combustion Chamber Style:
Heart
Intake Port Location:
Standard
Exhaust Port Shape:
Square
Exhaust Port Location:
Standard
Spark Plug Style:
Straight
Intake Valves Included:
Yes
Intake Valve Diameter (in):
1.940 in.
Exhaust Valves Included:
Yes
Exhaust Valve Diameter (in):
1.500 in.
Valve Springs Included:
Yes
Maximum Valve Lift (in):
0.520 in.
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in):
1.250 in.
Damper Spring Included:
No
Number of Springs Per Valve:
Single
Retainers Included:
Yes
Retainer Material:
Steel
Locks Included:
Yes
Lock Style:
7 degree
Valve Stem Seals Included:
Yes
Valve Stem Seal Style:
PC seal
Rocker Arm Studs Included:
No
Rocker Arms Included:
No
Rocker Arm Nuts Included:
No
Guideplates Included:
Yes
Valve Cover Mounting Style:
Centerbolt
Accessory Bolt Holes Drilled:
Yes
Intake Valve Angle:
23
Exhaust Valve Angle:
23
Valve Guides Included:
Yes
Valve Guide Material:
Manganese bronze intake/Phosphorous bronze exhaust
Valve Seats Machined:
Yes
Valve Seat Machine Style:
4-angle intake/3-angle exhaust
Valve Seat Material:
Ductile iron
Steam Holes Drilled:
No
Oiling Style:
Through pushrod
Machined for O-Ring:
No
Heat Crossover:
No
Quantity:
Sold individually.
Notes:
Fits Vortec style intake manifolds also.
Ok here are the pistons specs
Bore (in):
3.796 in.
Bore (mm):
96.418mm
Piston Material:
Forged aluminum
Piston Style:
Flat
Compression Distance (in):
1.560 in.
Valve Reliefs:
Four
Piston Head Volume (cc):
+8.70cc
Wrist Pin Style:
Floating
Pin Diameter (in):
0.927 in.
Gapless:
No
File Fit:
No
Top Ring Thickness:
1/16 in.
Top Ring Material:
Iron
Top Ring Facing Material:
Plasma-moly
Second Ring Thickness:
1/16 in.
Second Ring Material:
Iron
Second Ring Facing Material:
Cast iron
Oil Ring Thickness:
3/16 in.
Oil Ring Material:
Stainless steel
Oil Ring Tension:
Standard
Quantity:
Sold as a kit.
Notes:
Approximate compression ratio with 67cc head: 8.6:1.
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From: Katy
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.73
With the money you will put into your 305, I would ask Owen what other options he recommends. He is installing an Ls1 in my previously LO3 powered camaro which should get me in the 11s. But if you are set on keeping your 305 good luck.
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From: Houston-katy
Car: 1986 Irocz- Houstons Fastest Street
Engine: 408 LS1 w/ 2 stage
Transmission: Turbo 350
Axle/Gears: 3:73,3850 lbs , best of 9.92 @ 138
that is my point, no mater what you do, you will have an impossible task to get that in the 9's, ive got my 408 ls1 with everything on it, and i just got a new cold fusion direct port for a 300 shot and i dont know if ill even get close to the 9's yet
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From: San Leandro(Oakland)
Car: '92 Toyota Pickup
Engine: 22R-E
Transmission: 5sp Manual
Axle/Gears: 4:??
nevermind, gonna say not worth it but you said you're an oddball so good luck.
Last edited by superGMman; Jul 23, 2006 at 10:38 PM.
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From: Freindswood
Car: 1989 rs camaro
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: auto
i could always go with what my budy did and just take a 350ci block stroke it to a 383ci put a comp cam and lifters iron eagle platinum 215cc heads and the works be done with nitric for 5 to 6 k push 640 torque at 4500 rpm and push 600hp at 5500rpm and it would just about bolt right in to I will post all the bits to it but I really want that unique factor in my car but I may just have to sacrifice it for the power I want
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From: Houston Texas
Car: 1989 IROC Z-28
Engine: L98 350--modified
Transmission: 700 R4--modified
Axle/Gears: 4:10 Posi
Originally Posted by xtremeirocz
that is my point, no mater what you do, you will have an impossible task to get that in the 9's, ive got my 408 ls1 with everything on it, and i just got a new cold fusion direct port for a 300 shot and i dont know if ill even get close to the 9's yet
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