My TPI vs LSX
03-13-2011, 09:10 PM
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My TPI vs LSX
Last night on the 10fwy coming from Fantisy Casino, a gold colored 1999-2002 SS Z28 with black Z06 wheels called me out on the fwy. Why did he do that? Well I had to let him know that this is not just a regular IROC. At 70mph I dropped in forth gear, got side by side with him and let him have the go. Well the suprise to his eyes and his ego to see the old ROC pulled away from him with ease twice. I told my girl watch him pull up next us and give the thumbs up. Show nuff he did. Was he stock? Don't know. Did he have any mods? Don't know.
So to some of you LSX guys, be cautious of a TPI car you may pick on. You might get your feelings and ego hurt.
So to some of you LSX guys, be cautious of a TPI car you may pick on. You might get your feelings and ego hurt.
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if this was a facebook status.... "like". Great job and you are right, these tpis can run just as hard as an LS when properly built.
03-13-2011, 09:35 PM
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Hehehehe. Good one Vince. With two people in your car no less.
I have got to get those 17" rims. I took the car out for a spin yesterday to check on knock counts before dyno day on March 26. I also wanted to check out the backup 7730 ECM that I bought. I am good in that respect on both counts but something else happened.
I rolled into it in 2nd gear to keep the tires from busting loose by advancing the throttle to check for knock counts and to see how hard it pulled to 6500rpm(shift point). Well I could feel the rear tires break like it has done before but they grabbed again as they have before then a moment later the rear of the car started to come around. Whoa!!! That was enough for me. It happened so fast and so smoothly I almost lost it.
I have got to get those 17" rims. I took the car out for a spin yesterday to check on knock counts before dyno day on March 26. I also wanted to check out the backup 7730 ECM that I bought. I am good in that respect on both counts but something else happened.
I rolled into it in 2nd gear to keep the tires from busting loose by advancing the throttle to check for knock counts and to see how hard it pulled to 6500rpm(shift point). Well I could feel the rear tires break like it has done before but they grabbed again as they have before then a moment later the rear of the car started to come around. Whoa!!! That was enough for me. It happened so fast and so smoothly I almost lost it.
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03-14-2011, 11:07 PM
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Congrats on the kill....but don't go calling out LS1 guys just yet. All it takes is a mid sized cam in an LS1 to make the power that you are. Nice to be able to beat LS1 cars though once in a while with a good old small block.
03-14-2011, 11:16 PM
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I'm not calling them out. They are calling me out.
03-14-2011, 11:36 PM
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Yes watch out with the mild built ls1s out in the streets which can be fast with the right driver..
This guys is coming back with more hp. ill make sure I have my new clutch installed, A better exhaust and REAL traction. Mines still bone stock running like a champ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv5We...eature=related
This guys is coming back with more hp. ill make sure I have my new clutch installed, A better exhaust and REAL traction. Mines still bone stock running like a champ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv5We...eature=related
03-15-2011, 12:21 AM
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One thing about a LSX in a thirdgen in that the weight gets down to about 3300 plus a 135lbs driver. We will have our day.
03-15-2011, 12:23 AM
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Don't know how well you would run besides a bolt on ls car, but like mentioned, a ls with cam will give you hell, my buddies 5.3, bone stock with a stock cam, just a carb conversion in his street trim fox mustang went 8.0 in the 1/8th last night all motor and a 150 shot went 6.85, that is only 325 cubes.
03-15-2011, 12:43 AM
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Good kill, its always nice to surprise a car that's normally faster...
We have a few 4th gen LSx guys with bolt-ons(no internals) that wouldn't mind getting a roll race with a fully-built TPI....
Just for comparison sake of course
Just for comparison sake of course
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nice kill, idk what your numbers are but i'd like to see what you can do up against a new 5.0. i do know that with a cam and some bolt ons an LS1 can take a new 5.0
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New 5.0's are monsters. You better be packing some heat on a SBC engine to hang with one of them. They give bolt on LS1's a good enough run when they are stock. Add a few bolt ons to a 5.0 and you have a basically untouched low 12 second capable car. Ford finally hit the nail on the head and gave us some competition!
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Sounds like a good time. What are your 1/4 times like these days VincentZ28? I don't get into the So-Cal forums often enough to see who's doing what.
I enjoy the best of both worlds at the moment, but without a doubt my TPI is way more fun to drive compared to my 4th gen.
I enjoy the best of both worlds at the moment, but without a doubt my TPI is way more fun to drive compared to my 4th gen.
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Last night on the 10fwy coming from Fantisy Casino, a gold colored 1999-2002 SS Z28 with black Z06 wheels called me out on the fwy. Why did he do that? Well I had to let him know that this is not just a regular IROC. At 70mph I dropped in forth gear, got side by side with him and let him have the go. Well the suprise to his eyes and his ego to see the old ROC pulled away from him with ease twice. I told my girl watch him pull up next us and give the thumbs up. Show nuff he did. Was he stock? Don't know. Did he have any mods? Don't know.
So to some of you LSX guys, be cautious of a TPI car you may pick on. You might get your feelings and ego hurt.
So to some of you LSX guys, be cautious of a TPI car you may pick on. You might get your feelings and ego hurt.
would u like to have a friendly run with my third gen and see how it does. its an stock ls motor. would be fun. let me know. and maybe u can beat part of king of cali event. or we could do a crew vs crew thing match each other up
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I can tell you right now. It won't be crew vs crew unless it is at the track on Memorial Day weekend. I'll try you on my own.
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what's up with all these roll races on you tube, thats just plain wack
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Also sometimes Its not worth putting on my ets for just a friendly race. I will have a built rear end sometime.
I'm not a hardcore traditional bracket racer. I like to pull up to fast cars on the freeway and have some fun. As u can see I've put more money into appearance than I have in the engine over all. As of now I'm satisfied with the power of this bone stock ls1 346 ci. This can change ... when its ready for heads n cam.. or possibly bigger cubes..
03-17-2011, 01:15 AM
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Get a real tire on it and go from a dig at the track to see whos really quicker
If it breaks, fix it then run it again. If something is weak where its going to break its going to do it anyway and prefer it NOT to happen at 70+mph. Just my .02
If it breaks, fix it then run it again. If something is weak where its going to break its going to do it anyway and prefer it NOT to happen at 70+mph. Just my .02
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I didn't mean it like that lol, ls1=bow the **** down.....but we l98 guys can trow down more torque in a hurry. Now can that help you in a 70mph roll drag race? no, but can that help you have more fun? hell yes!
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its cool man i didnt take it in a bad way. thanks thoe on the ls motor compliment. dont get me wrong i love all third gen. befor i had a 350 carb sbc semi built and i love it but i blew it on the freeway. then i got a really good deal on this ls motor and i pick it up.
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03-25-2011, 11:48 AM
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There is no denying that the LSX engine line is much more advanced than the gen1 SBC. Any engine tech with half a brain can tell just from looking at the cathedral intake ports that the LS1 is a big step ahead. That doesn't mean that our gen1s cant still be competitive with the right combination of parts and tricks.
03-25-2011, 03:30 PM
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Dollar per HP, the gen1 SBC wins over the LS motors every time. Pay big $$$$ to jump on the modern bandwagon? Not me.
LS engines are like Tatoo's, everybody's getting one but me.
See here, I like goinmg to the track and people scratch their heads and say, " Damn, and thats not even an LS motor." Or even, Damn, Thats a V6", or Damn, thats a big truck even", or "Don't 'F' with that Sugarcaddy"....OK, I admit I went a little far with the last one... But the whitewall marks left on the ground iin hard corners is just sick
LS engines are like Tatoo's, everybody's getting one but me.
See here, I like goinmg to the track and people scratch their heads and say, " Damn, and thats not even an LS motor." Or even, Damn, Thats a V6", or Damn, thats a big truck even", or "Don't 'F' with that Sugarcaddy"....OK, I admit I went a little far with the last one... But the whitewall marks left on the ground iin hard corners is just sick
$$/HP are you referring to factory SBC gen 1 vs. factory gen III? or are you talking about aftermarket blocks/heads/castings?
I'm actually really interested in this topic, specially with junkyard 6.0 builds putting down over 400 rwhp cam only ($500 for complete engine, $300 for cam)
I know the aftermarket race only world is still dominated by big blocks but with the advancement in tech, the LS is closing the gap. I mean aftermarket blocks for the LSx world are relatively new vs. SBC/BBC and are being pushed to new limits continuously.
I like surprising people in my mu llet-turd gen. After they get left behind they usually say..."That aint no TPI!!!!"
03-26-2011, 02:17 PM
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Dollar/hp LSx will take the cake every time
Some LSx parts cost more but will make that much more power, too.
Gap has narrowed some with better tech parts but the LSx is the superior motor period.
Toss a converter at a stock LSx and one at a TPI and the "torque monster" will get dusted. Hey we all like the Gen1 stuff but give credit where its due.
Can tell you one thing unless I had an opp to build a HUGE ci BBC I wouldnt even think of sinking money into a Gen 1 again.
Some LSx parts cost more but will make that much more power, too.
Gap has narrowed some with better tech parts but the LSx is the superior motor period.
Toss a converter at a stock LSx and one at a TPI and the "torque monster" will get dusted. Hey we all like the Gen1 stuff but give credit where its due.
Can tell you one thing unless I had an opp to build a HUGE ci BBC I wouldnt even think of sinking money into a Gen 1 again.
03-26-2011, 02:24 PM
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We have always compared our modified TPI's to the typical modded LS1's one finds on the street and at the track. We modify our TPI's to bring them up to the level of the LS1 engine. Then its down to the better driver.
03-26-2011, 10:14 PM
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I have a '64 SBC 327 motor that is probably half the money of a stock LS1 and will waste the crap out of it- You don't know what you are talking about- typical stuck on modern marketing magaizine article hot rodding.
My SBC has 2.02 heads completely worked the motor is spinning 8500 rpms with 540 rwhp on a trantula intake manifold and a holley 750 plus Hooker 2" primaries and 4" collectersand over 13:1. I can not find the tag on the custom "factory ground" camshaft Isky profiled back in the 60's, but yes its over .6 lift and has a power band of 3000-8500 and needs at the very least LL100 to run it. THis car dyno'ed at 538 rwhp back in 1987 and was initially built in 1968 with the heads done by Blairs Speed Shop (El Mirage lake bed notoriety). All cast iron and average everyday SBC gen 1 performance parts. Far less expensive then your LS1 doing the same aprox 600 crank hp for twice the money.
Yes the ls1 gets better gas milage, but thats mostly made up from modern Fuel Injection technology. Put that system on my dinosaur motor and that alone would up the milage AND up the HP probably at least 50hp.
Trust me when I say you LS guys do not want to F with this car. I lay rubber at 70 mph. I watched my father years ago smoke the tires on the 91 fwy in this car doing 85mph and hitting the juice we used to have plumbed into it. The bottle was so radiacl and unneeded with round filed the system for easy of motor tuning when I was solo1&2 racing this car back n the 80's. You guys think your LS motors are the next best thing to sliced bread and wrongly frown on the gen 1 SBC thats been around for over 50 years reliable.
My SBC has 2.02 heads completely worked the motor is spinning 8500 rpms with 540 rwhp on a trantula intake manifold and a holley 750 plus Hooker 2" primaries and 4" collectersand over 13:1. I can not find the tag on the custom "factory ground" camshaft Isky profiled back in the 60's, but yes its over .6 lift and has a power band of 3000-8500 and needs at the very least LL100 to run it. THis car dyno'ed at 538 rwhp back in 1987 and was initially built in 1968 with the heads done by Blairs Speed Shop (El Mirage lake bed notoriety). All cast iron and average everyday SBC gen 1 performance parts. Far less expensive then your LS1 doing the same aprox 600 crank hp for twice the money.
Yes the ls1 gets better gas milage, but thats mostly made up from modern Fuel Injection technology. Put that system on my dinosaur motor and that alone would up the milage AND up the HP probably at least 50hp.
Trust me when I say you LS guys do not want to F with this car. I lay rubber at 70 mph. I watched my father years ago smoke the tires on the 91 fwy in this car doing 85mph and hitting the juice we used to have plumbed into it. The bottle was so radiacl and unneeded with round filed the system for easy of motor tuning when I was solo1&2 racing this car back n the 80's. You guys think your LS motors are the next best thing to sliced bread and wrongly frown on the gen 1 SBC thats been around for over 50 years reliable.
03-26-2011, 11:13 PM
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No offense since you’ve posted that you were a old time racer and knowledgeable with chevy cars but you really make it seem like someone can go to the junkyard pick up a 327 and 350, port the heads, slap a monster cam in there and make 500rwhp for $1,000.00(1/2 the price of an LS1). In reality, the average SBC will put down about 300-350rwhp with a nice rebuild, off-the-shelf cam, intake, and heads(check out racingjunk.com). If you have the secret to building 500+ rwhp 327’s for half the price of an LS1 you should have began production and became a billionaire because BES Racing and other companies sell 600hp SBC for about $15k. While you were at it, you could have won Master Engine Builder contest!!!!
Also, you are comparing a race car SBC with no exhaust, no street manners(can’t idle, surges under 3,000rpm, 3-4 mpg) to a stock bottom end LS1’s that can be driven to the track with A/C, pwr everything and run 9’s as well. There is a reason why the majority of muscle car builders are ditching the SBC for the LS, I don’t think its because everyone thinks they are cool like tattoos….
Also, you are comparing a race car SBC with no exhaust, no street manners(can’t idle, surges under 3,000rpm, 3-4 mpg) to a stock bottom end LS1’s that can be driven to the track with A/C, pwr everything and run 9’s as well. There is a reason why the majority of muscle car builders are ditching the SBC for the LS, I don’t think its because everyone thinks they are cool like tattoos….
03-27-2011, 01:39 AM
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I guess I need to get out more. Most of the LS1's I see at the LA Invasion run 12's or 11's, not 9's.
You make it sound like anyone can go to the junkyard, get a LS1 take-out for $500, throw a monster cam in there, drop it in a thirdgen overnight, and make 500 RWHP.
You make it sound like anyone can go to the junkyard, get a LS1 take-out for $500, throw a monster cam in there, drop it in a thirdgen overnight, and make 500 RWHP.
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I have never experienced an LS engine? (laughs) Ok kid, Keep spewing your bs and putting words in my mouth. Some day you'll learn the hard way. I have driven a new ZR1 even. My Vette will beat it in the 1/4- on street tires and a road race setup.
Right when the filer says "He's movin, THose are 335 wide "r" rated racing tires I am lighting up as I roll into the throttle still in 1st gear at about 40-50mphI have to pedal it always or I will just overpower the tires and they get greasy and do not last a full run- That point is obvious a few times after you heard me nail it then the car is slippery afterwards and smoke appears off the tires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8owSVZaWH3A
Byt he way, the car will pull 70mph in 1st gear. This entire run was 1st gear. The motor tachs 8500rpms. Motor is gone though quite regularly over the last 40 years and has about 60,000 miles on the cam and internals. License plate is a warning lable reading '60-N-2-SEC'
Lets see what you've got kid? BUllshit walks I EAT LS3 Vettes for lunch.
Right when the filer says "He's movin, THose are 335 wide "r" rated racing tires I am lighting up as I roll into the throttle still in 1st gear at about 40-50mphI have to pedal it always or I will just overpower the tires and they get greasy and do not last a full run- That point is obvious a few times after you heard me nail it then the car is slippery afterwards and smoke appears off the tires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8owSVZaWH3A
Byt he way, the car will pull 70mph in 1st gear. This entire run was 1st gear. The motor tachs 8500rpms. Motor is gone though quite regularly over the last 40 years and has about 60,000 miles on the cam and internals. License plate is a warning lable reading '60-N-2-SEC'
Lets see what you've got kid? BUllshit walks I EAT LS3 Vettes for lunch.
If you want to blow what I said out of proportion and insult me then I will surely give you a race when my cars done. I don't talk **** unless I can back it up and my car is still not together but I only have a lowly junkyard 5.3 LSx with a little Z06 vette cam and a 76mm turbo. Surely nothing compared to your race set up but hey I am down for a run against anything once it's finished. I won't need 8500 RPM to make the power you do either, trust me.