delete thanks

 

Hmmm...
Buy an Oldsmobile ...

 

Dang man, take a chill pill. Your car is almost 20 years old.... Are these the stock springs you are talking about? If so, then just replace them. Stock springs are probably fairly cheap, but why get stock when you can upgrade A stock panhard bar... that'll run you what, like 20 bucks used? Your stock bar is probably in good shape, just the bushings are bad. Go get some poly bushings for em and you'll be good as new again.

 

maybe if GM didnt have jheads in their asses when they went to design the new coils in 82 for these cars out of crap thin cheap *** metal they wouldnbt be sagging like a mo fu, never have this problem with rear coilsd on any of the 64-72 trucks or on any ful size B body cars, they are way thicker higher quality than these are... if they knew how to design crap in the 80s then they would have never designed a spring like this that has so much fatigue problems like this, im afraid to put on new repacement springs in fear that theyre gonna be just as sagged as these, i have hard time beleiving that a new set of 84 Z28 springs just like these are gonna be any better than these i have now,. do they really fatigue this damn much ? ppl who ride in the car with me always say damn you need new shocks,
But I DONT, the rear of car does NOT keepo on jouncing after a bump, it immediately stops jounce through a bump and does not rebound ore than enough to return to ride hide, no one seems ot understand the difference between junk springs and junk shocks. the shocks are NOT there to hold the car up, they are desinged to keep car from being a like its riding waves nonstop. anyone who has driven a car or truck with coils rear and with shocks rmeoved wil know what i mean, the rear never will settle til a bit after vehicle is stopped. its goofy as hell to experience.

anyways,
dont want an oldsmobile lol! i just got back form removing my sway bar, oe endlink was competely busted and other one i had to torch off, and one axle tube u bolt broke and other is good, clamps all good, anyone need a Z28 rear bar ?
the inside diameter of the ends of the coils on these cars are about 2 1/4"
wayyyy smaller than full size cars and trucks
I bet G body cars like the regal and cutlasses and montes are same though, hopefulyl heavier and longer though, damn these F body springs are wayyyy tinier than i even assumed they would be, thats insane..
i dont think anyone is ever gonna buy this Z28, guess willl keep it and dirve it into the ground, im not gonna put any $$ into it that it absolutely needs in order to run and drive, it does run and drive awesome, but has its flaws here and there, T tops, 3.73 700r4 305 HO power doors, perfect dash pad, etc.
run it til it dies i guess...
im not gonna put money into this car, its just a daily driver and it is never gonna be some show car its in IL where it has all kinds of corrosion damage and but runs good and thats all its got going for it other than it was built in Van Nuys and is in IL for some unknown reason I dont want to know why probably.

anyone know some info on this or also if G body rear springs are same size retainer end diameter(about 2.25" roughly) as our rear springs. ? I need like some 87 grand national springs or something good like that. ands if so does anyone know where any are at ?

thanks guys,
R

 

Oh cry me a river.

New rear springs about $60 (Napa heavy duty)
Sway bar links about $20
Panhard bar bushings can't be much.

Preventive maintenance is the key to a smooth running car. No matter if it's an '82 camaro or a '02 Lamborghini. You have to maintain it (oil changes, tune ups, etc) and replace parts when they are broken or worn out. Otherwise the car becomes junk, no matter who built it.

<climbing off soap box now>

 

When did this problem start? Last week, a month ago, a year ago? 88Roc350TPI is right, preventitive maintenance is absolutely necessary on old cars. It sounds like your car is probably unsafe to drive, yet you refuse to fix the MINOR problems that could save your life in case you have to make a quick decision while driving 70mph down the freeway... I really dont see any logic in anything you have said so far. Why just "run the car into the ground" when you can just replace the parts that are causing the problems, and keep the car alive for many years to come? You can pick up a set of IROC 36mm/24mm swaybars for ~100 if you do some shopping around and find a deal. Then get some poly end links for ~20 (guessing). Get a set of stock springs from an IROC or buy some aftermarket springs such as the Eibach Pro Kit (~1.25" drop, $193 at www.ws6.com). Then buy a set of poly bushings for your stock panhard bar (~guessing at 20 bucks again). After doing these mods, your car will be up there with an IROC, which was one of the best, and still is, handling vehicles on the road.

 

The Napa springs are Moog CARGO springs for $60. They are made from a little heavier guage wire and have an extra coil. I tow a trailer with my Camaro and those springs helped dramatically. The ride height may increase a little if yours are sagging that bad but it leveled mine out nicely.

 

Hey Fast68...I don't speak gangster/rapper/jive...can you provide a translator?


Yeah, they are simply worn out and it has nothing to do with the GM design. Did it ever occur to you that the average car buyer abuses their vehicle and there are people who think a car is a 1/2 ton truck too...

Exceeding automotive design tolerances on a daily basis is my specialty and I have seen way too many stupid people to hope that everything appreciates their vehicles the same way that I do.

Replace the parts and be happy....and learn some grammer...Normally I won't respond to a post that gives me a headache when I read it.

 

Did I read correctly that you are just gonna drive the car with no rear swaybar? From all I've read, it NOT a good idea to do that... I've heard of removing the front sway bar (for better weight transfer), but not the REAR. Just because the end links were torn up is no reason to remove the whole bar... Autozone and O'Reilly both sell a generic brand of poly end links, for less than 20 bucks. Just slap them on and I guarantee you'll feel a difference.

 

Randy, you need to listen to these guys, they know 3rd gens like you know 67-72 Chevy pickups. Yes I'm a member over there too (project72). These guys won't steer you wrong, they know their ****

 

I'm sorry, but seriously, what are you b!tchin and whineing about it for if you want to sell it? And springs aren't *THAT* d@mn much money, get a grip man... you're like a child, jeez....

 

Uh.........would you like some cheese with your whine.

 

Hey 68, buy a freakin truck or drive one of your your huge b-body cars. You do not belong in a sports car!

 

springs cost 55 bucks, id rather save 55 back and find something that will work that i can get my hands off of off a heavier car. the sway bar wasnt working in the rear the way it was, its just as good as it was with the bar beig unfunctional due to busted end links.
all the sway bar is for is to help keep car level around sharp faster turns, thats all they are for.
not saying no one here doenst know alot about these cars, i appreciate the info, im just trying to make this car stay together just like anyone else is with their car,

Il find my own way somehow. i think G body springs will work just fine once i find a G body to part out.

i may have came on as whining, but only am trying to find out in any way possible info i need to know in order to improve the crappiness of the rear of this car, its just plain way too light duty back there from factory, you would thing GM would have done something bedtter than how they set them up especially Z28 etc,
apparently not.. cant compain about coils in general, as I very much so prefer coils rears over leaf rear for many many reasons icluding better traction less hop and easier to lower or raise and lot better riding when have good correct rate coils.
most all vehicles i have ever owned have all been coil rear vehicles, i have probably only had like 6 or 8 with leaf rears.
this is in time span of last almost eight years now.



thanks anyways
didnt mean to come on sound like i did, i dont prefer whine, no, but cheese yeh, most all cheeses are good :P

 

LOL ! youre correct, actually i dont technically, I am too used to full size and trucks, i cant even hardly fit in this Z28 even with the seat alllll the way back, no i am not fat or anything i am 142, so,,

i only bought the Z28 cuz it runs strong and i never had a F body before, now ive had three, all in last few months, wierd... happens in cylcles, i cant find a single damn GM truck anymore, havent even had one for a driver for wayy over a year, used o have all kinds.. been trying for months and months to locate a running and not full of so many body cancer holes truck, no dice though,

also while im here lol, at least im not about to put my car into lake: https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=111074
not even threatening to,
i just dont care to spend almost 200 or whatever for springs, its not worth it to me for a beater daily driver, i could go buy alot of fun of some kind somewhere for 200, dang...
basiucally he days of spending most all my money on vehicles are about over, i need ot layoff that, done it for 8 years, too many years all my money always went to it and i have nothing to sho for it yet, so time to go to college end of year across the country from here and take care of it all at once !




thanks again.

 

maybe i shoulda read this thread first lol! https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=122451

 

I think my buddy still has 3 or 4 67-72 chev. trucks,not sure on the years and there all long beds.

 

interesting, see if maybe he would mail me or something, if he wants to, im very interested, even if he doesnt want to sell/rid of any of them.

thanks,
Randy

 

hey i just got the moog cargo springs for 60 bucks and also my brother has them in both of his camaro's and i like how they bring the back of the car like an inch higher then stock.

 

The last set of shocks I replace would compress with no resistance, but had normal resistance on rebound. Kinda like drag shocks. Result--no bouncing like it had bad shocks, but it would bottom out all the time. Just something else you might check.

 

oh haha, yeah use my post. thanks alot man. ever heard of a joke? couldnt tell I was trying to fix the problem the RIGHT WAY?! not try and rig some **** together? atleast my problem is solved now and the thing runs better than ever. you do the crap your talking about and its never going to be right and you're just going to come back on here whining and moaning and bitching because it isnt right

 

Hey Man,,Could you take some pics of that Camaro your selling?

 

Got any pics you could post? Something doesn't sound right.

The rear of the car is sagging badly? Unless someone drove the thing like the "Dukes of Hazard" the rear springs shouldn't be beat that bad. I think you might have another problem. Is the car pretty rusty underneath?

 

Tell the fat guy to get out of the back seat and then your car will sit right Anyways....dont go bitching at GM saying their designs suck.....your car's 20 years old....everything's gotta give sometime. If you live in IL...then your rear is probably rusted to hell...that's more than likely your problem...not GM's design.

 

i got the same car as u do a 84 z h.o ttops 5 spd and my rear end is still pretty high its just my front that sucks i always bottom out over speed bumps and my drive way plus i got alot of stuff wrong with my front susspension its all messed up ideler arm shocks springs everything is ****. guess thats from donuts tho so its my fault. thats what u get when ur 17 u like to treat ur car like its urself INVINCIBLE but its not and if u treat it like **** it will break . and im sure gm made good springs. just u treat ur car like u treat ur MOM.
just playing about ur mom