sfc's for convertibles
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Originally posted by '89 IROC Vert
I just bought some Hotchkis SFCs for my 'vert and found that the single pipe exhaust is very much in the way.
Anyone got a photo of their passenger side SFC on their convertible?
I just bought some Hotchkis SFCs for my 'vert and found that the single pipe exhaust is very much in the way.
Anyone got a photo of their passenger side SFC on their convertible?
Here Ya Go:
http://www.spohn.net/index.cfm?fusea...t&contentid=26
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For the record, Kenny Brown and Spohn look the best by far,
but there are a ton of companys that make connectors that will
fit. The ones I can remember are MAC, South Side Machine, Alston, and S&W racecars. I am installing the Kenny Browns
and will have a problem with my single exhaust as well. From the
pictures of the Spohn SFC's, we wouldn't have that problem.
FWIW, I will be installing some Alstons to supplement the KB's.
but there are a ton of companys that make connectors that will
fit. The ones I can remember are MAC, South Side Machine, Alston, and S&W racecars. I am installing the Kenny Browns
and will have a problem with my single exhaust as well. From the
pictures of the Spohn SFC's, we wouldn't have that problem.
FWIW, I will be installing some Alstons to supplement the KB's.
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Ya know after looking at Spohn's SFC for convertibles, I could add them to my car without taking my MAC SFC's out. Double SFC's. Hmmmmmmm????
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That's exactly what I plan to do--the Kenny Browns are very
similar to the Spohns, and the MAC's are very similar to the
Alston's. I personally will install Spohns or Kenny Browns in
every F-body I will own--I love the fact that they weld in all
along the rocker.
One thing, however--all of the connectors like MAC, Alston, & S&W racecar's pretty much stiffen in tension and compression
only--the Kenny Brown/Spohn look much better. Still, I wonder if
there is an unobtrusive way (i.e. avoiding roll cages) to increase
bending stiffness in addition to torsion--even T-top cars are
significantly stronger in bending--the convertible has only the
trans tunnel/rockers to resist this force. It would be nice to jack
up the car, support by the subframes, and not have a noticeable difference in door gap. Oh well, I guess you can't have it all.
similar to the Spohns, and the MAC's are very similar to the
Alston's. I personally will install Spohns or Kenny Browns in
every F-body I will own--I love the fact that they weld in all
along the rocker.
One thing, however--all of the connectors like MAC, Alston, & S&W racecar's pretty much stiffen in tension and compression
only--the Kenny Brown/Spohn look much better. Still, I wonder if
there is an unobtrusive way (i.e. avoiding roll cages) to increase
bending stiffness in addition to torsion--even T-top cars are
significantly stronger in bending--the convertible has only the
trans tunnel/rockers to resist this force. It would be nice to jack
up the car, support by the subframes, and not have a noticeable difference in door gap. Oh well, I guess you can't have it all.
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The Kenny Brown SFC's are nice, but contrary to what they tell you at KB, they will NOT fit a convertible without cutting up the SFC. I ordered a pair, saw what I was going to have cut and how they would fit afterwards, and ended up sending them back. IMO, if it needs to be modified, it wasn't made for the application. To my knowledge, Spohn and Alston are the only companies that make SFC's that will properly fit convertibles.
As far as the 'double SFC' thing, A few people have brought this topic up before. Because of the design of the Alston SFC, I believe it is possible to run them in conjunction with an SFC that runs along the rocker panel. Certainly sounds like an interesting idea, and since my chassis flexes like a wet noodle, one that I am going to look into further.
As far as the 'double SFC' thing, A few people have brought this topic up before. Because of the design of the Alston SFC, I believe it is possible to run them in conjunction with an SFC that runs along the rocker panel. Certainly sounds like an interesting idea, and since my chassis flexes like a wet noodle, one that I am going to look into further.
Originally posted by drop-top IROC
The Kenny Brown SFC's are nice, but contrary to what they tell you at KB, they will NOT fit a convertible without cutting up the SFC. I ordered a pair, saw what I was going to have cut and how they would fit afterwards, and ended up sending them back. IMO, if it needs to be modified, it wasn't made for the application. To my knowledge, Spohn and Alston are the only companies that make SFC's that will properly fit convertibles.
The Kenny Brown SFC's are nice, but contrary to what they tell you at KB, they will NOT fit a convertible without cutting up the SFC. I ordered a pair, saw what I was going to have cut and how they would fit afterwards, and ended up sending them back. IMO, if it needs to be modified, it wasn't made for the application. To my knowledge, Spohn and Alston are the only companies that make SFC's that will properly fit convertibles.
Also, just a note on what was said above, I can assure you that SSM and S&W's SFCs will not even come close to fitting on a convertible.
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Steve...
Is it just the S&W SFC's 'outriggers' that go between the front subframe and rockers that interfere with the ASC installed riveted in rocker reinforcement? This looks like the only part of the connector that comes close to any features unique to the convertibles. I'm not sure if there is another S&W style, the ones I'm talking about are at the top of this page:
http://www.swracecars.com/f-body.html
http://www.swracecars.com/f-body.html
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Hey..glad we are on this topic and I want to bring it back to life::
I have the MAC style SFC's and really love them. Much mroe straight line drive. But, I still feel door torque/tension/twist under my left knee when cornering hard etc.
Do the Spohn style SFC's have the same prob??
I was thinking of just getting maybe two 1-ft sections of tubular steel and fabricating my own "outriggers" between the ASC bolt on rocker support and the front weld point of each SFC.
I guess another could be welded b/t the two SFC's like that picture.
But, more than likely, I am going to install an 8 pt roll cage in my vert. We have no B pillar support (where the hardtops and t-tops do). It seems like there still would be alot of flex in those areas no matter what we do to the undercarriage.
I'm hoping it will tie the two sides of the car together, from door post to door post and the front corners just infront of and inside the forward part of the doors (as well as the rear).
I have the MAC style SFC's and really love them. Much mroe straight line drive. But, I still feel door torque/tension/twist under my left knee when cornering hard etc.
Do the Spohn style SFC's have the same prob??
I was thinking of just getting maybe two 1-ft sections of tubular steel and fabricating my own "outriggers" between the ASC bolt on rocker support and the front weld point of each SFC.
I guess another could be welded b/t the two SFC's like that picture.
But, more than likely, I am going to install an 8 pt roll cage in my vert. We have no B pillar support (where the hardtops and t-tops do). It seems like there still would be alot of flex in those areas no matter what we do to the undercarriage.
I'm hoping it will tie the two sides of the car together, from door post to door post and the front corners just infront of and inside the forward part of the doors (as well as the rear).
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I put Kenny Brown SFCs in my vert a few years ago. I didnt need to cut anything. I just had to bend the passenger side pipe up a little bit in the front.
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While we got the attn of a bunch of vert owners.....anyone replaced there top lately??
If you did, did you order it online or just take your car somewhere to have it done??
If you did, did you order it online or just take your car somewhere to have it done??
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I had these welded in at a local muffler shop for $80.00. They make a 1000% difference.
I had these welded in at a local muffler shop for $80.00. They make a 1000% difference.
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