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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Which sfc's would you guys recommend to me, kenny brown or spohn? thanks again guys



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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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dont have them, but lots of people like spohn! run a search for opinions
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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ive got the spohn's sitting in the garage waiting for spring. they work great for getting in the way.
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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I 've got the Competition Engineering SFC's. They bolted right up in about an hour and a half with no prob and work great!
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Installed the Spohn tube type SFC's in Oct 02 and they made a big difference. You can feel the improvement after driving over winter roads, the car feels tighter.
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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Bolt Ons

Are there any bolt on sbc's for an 87 gta, if anyone knows of any let me know cause i dont know how to weld.
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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Bolt on SFC's are a waste of money, get the weld in type and find a shop to install them. My opinion..
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Z28DJP1987
Bolt on SFC's are a waste of money, get the weld in type and find a shop to install them. My opinion..
wouldnt it be easier to bolt them on then weld since they would be in the correct place anyway. just a thought. i dont think u can go wrong with the bolt ons cuz u can weld them if necessary. the weld in u have to weld.
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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anyone know where to get the bolt on ones
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Don't get bolt-in ones; or if you do, get them welded. Bolting them doesn't work. The stress and movement on them will elongate the bolt holes, and then your car will still shake and shimmy, and you'll just have even more loose parts banging against each other.
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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how were the competition engineering bolt ons. i thought u had to modify your floorbed? im thinking of getting the jegsters bolt ins then weld then in.
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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I plan on a set of bolt in Alston SFC's. The can be bolted in, and then welded later. I havent heard a bad thing about these and the work with dual or single cat cars.
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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The Alstons rule! Perfect fit and really makes the car tight. Here is a pic:
Attached Thumbnails sfc's-subframe1.jpg  
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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The Comp bolt ons were easy to put on and required no mods to the floor. If you have the right tools it takes about an hour to put them on. As for the bolts comming loose, my buddy has had the bolt on SFC's on his car for about ten years and there tight as ever. It'a all a matter of preference. I will say that any stock exhaust will have to modified to accomidate the SFC's made by comp. eng. as they cross over right before the cat location. My friend that has run them for years on a T Top car has NO complaints and they tightened up his ride considerably.
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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I have the Comp. Eng.sfcs on my 84Z-28. They are the bolt on type. I havent seen a set as beefyas these are. They truly connect the front to the rear in the most important spots. They go from the lower control arm, up the sill, and over to the center frame. I changed the tubular bit that runs from the sills to the center frame to a flat steel plate with holes in it to bolt to the pan if needed. I did not need it because the connectors are great without bolting to the pan. I had to change the exhaust a little but my exhaust is not original. I couldnt see it being much of a hassle to install with standard exhaust. Any shop could easily deal with the situation. Very happy with the bolt-on types.
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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Where can you get the alstons? do they require any exhaust changes?
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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I have the Kenny browns and they are incredibly stable. They also fit with my duals!!
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by gtaguy87
Where can you get the alstons? do they require any exhaust changes?
You can get them from Alstons website. They are on the high side, a little over 200, IIRC, for the weld ins. They require no modifications at all. Everyone I know who has them would never change. We all recommend them every chance we get. I did a lot of research on these, and they are by far the best out there. I know others will disagree, but they most likely have not had them, nor driven a car with them on. HTH
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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The kenny browns tie into the frame where the transmission crossmember is locate too right??? and did you weld them all along or just short spots.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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I'm running spohns oldstyle (boxed) sfcs. I was really impressed with the product and you can't beat having steve himself write answers to your emails and send you the tracking email with the number. Only bad thing about them was the wait. I had to wait about 4 or 5 weeks before they were sent out, but it was all worth it. I wouldn't get bolt in kind unless you weld them in too, like stated earlier. Over time the bolt holes will elongate and become kind of slotted leaving the sfcs loose and rattling, which means they'll no longer hold the car together like they should. I love my spohns especially the side weld ons so it connects the transmission tunnel to the sfcs too.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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The kenny browns tie into the frame where the transmission crossmember is locate too right??? and did you weld them all along or just short spots.
Yes they do. I welded mine all along the side where the body panels meet the bottom chassis, at the rear control arms, and at the front. I'll try and find a pic for you. Very stable and rock hard. I have a T-top car and this thing has very little flex. I wish you could ride in it. My brother is in here somewhere (Xceleratemaro) ask him how it feels.

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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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SFC's are like the STB's with PRO & CON on MFG and TYPE. So I say go with the one you like and suits your application & wallet. Or else this Post will go on and on and on and on........Also I have the Spohn Tube type SFC's & Hotchkis STB.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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So does anyone know the address to the Alston website? Was never answered above. Thanks.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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I believe it is: http://www.alstonracing.com
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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anyone got the kenny brown web site?
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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http://www.kennybrown.com/


but you know there is this great thing on the internet known as a search engine i prefer http://www.google.com
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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i just did that after the post lol thanks though
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