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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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SFC's, Powdercoated or not??

I'm planning on ordering a set of Spohn subframes tonight, but cannot decide on geting them powdercoated or not. I would like the protection, but can't see spending the $$ just to gring 1/2 of it off. Any recomendations on another way to protect them without buying them coated?
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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POR-15 or some type of undercoating. That POR-15 stuff leaves a ceramic like finish I believe that you can easily paint. That's the route Im going at least.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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i would get them bare then coat them with something..
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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I ordered mine bare and will paint them after they get welded up.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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im doin por 15 also..regardless of the fact they have to strip powercoating off where they weld the sfc's in.... unless u got a thing for paying extra bucks for powercoating por 15 works just as well....
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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Thanks for the feedback, looks like I'm ordering them bare.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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You can certainly go bare and put coating on afterwards. Not sure if you could get the coating all the way around the sfc's once they are up.

btw - you certainly won't take 50% of the powdercoating off. Just a bit at each weld...



I did that and then just used some touch up paint on the welds once we were done. The powdercoat is on there nice and thick. I guess I just wanted a cleaner look under the car but admittedly there are not that many people who will see it

Here is a pic after the install but before the touch up...



Have fun. You should enjoy this mod.

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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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i second shultzy here, i had mine powdercoated (the old square tube style) and have no regrets, the amout of coating taken off is very small, and it looks and has lasted (3 years now) great!
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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WOW, check out the shine...
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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Whoops, forgot...

i got Hotchkis SFC and dont even know where to start grinding off the powder coat................how bare does it have to be? all the way down to metal on both side? Do I also have to grind any part of the car? I guess I can always jack the car up and put it on jack stands , test fit the Subs and see where they meet metal of the car and grind that part off....and on the car,,,huh, right?
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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yea you want totally bare metal... the cleaner the better... makes it easier to weld.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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If you have them powder coated then just grind off where the welds are required what should you put over that area once they are on the car?

Is POR-15 the best or is touch up paint all right?
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Would I be able to just use some rostolium spray paint if I get the non-powdercoated SFCs? Or would I need something much thicker? BTW, I live in So Cal. so I'm not worried about rust. -89IRO
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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DR G, to correctly apply POR-15, you have to prep the metal with an etching solution so if you go the powdercoated route, I suggest regular "touch up" paint so you won't have to do this. You could always just paint the welds with regular paint and then coat the whole area with some of that thick black undercoating stuff, that'll keep it from rusting.


89IRO, I'd still use some pretty stout stuff down there. I know I wouldn't want to have to do it twice.

HTH....Ed
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 06:56 AM
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I bought the Spohns, bare, and painted them after. Can't think of what I used, but I know it was a Rustoleum automotive product, brushed on, and about as thick as tar.
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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POR 15 here. Lots of salt in the air ... POR 15 everything you can. If it looked like paint I'd do it over my paintjob.
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Oh, and where can I get this "Por 15"? Is it spray on or brush on? -89IRO
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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www.por-15.com

You can either spray it or brush it on, it's great stuff.

Ed
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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That POR-15 looks like the same stuff I used. I just used the Rustoleum brand version cause that's what we had in the shop. Same stuff though, I'm sure. Just don't get it on anything you don't want it on...its nasty stuff to try and get off once its dry!
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 01:27 AM
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dont matter about taking off 50 % of the powdercoating... its 45 bux extra from spohn i believe.... por 15 run u like 20-30 depending on where u get it and the size, u prep the sfc, paint or spray the 15 over them, let dry, grind off what u need to and then por 15 the welds.... i believe u can also paint it... and listen por 15 is anti rust prevention... if there is rust under por 15... it will eventualy eat thru the 15.... make sure u do it right the first time.... its just a matter of saving a few bucks.... if u dont care or have money to blow... powder coat them.... for me from a techical and economical standpoint... por 15 is the better choice.... besides ur not gonna use all of the 15 on the sfc's maybe half to a quarter so u will have leftover for other ****.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by TwinTurboROC
dont matter about taking off 50 % of the powdercoating... its 45 bux extra from spohn i believe.... por 15 run u like 20-30 depending on where u get it and the size, u prep the sfc, paint or spray the 15 over them, let dry, grind off what u need to and then por 15 the welds.... i believe u can also paint it... and listen por 15 is anti rust prevention... if there is rust under por 15... it will eventualy eat thru the 15.... make sure u do it right the first time.... its just a matter of saving a few bucks.... if u dont care or have money to blow... powder coat them.... for me from a techical and economical standpoint... por 15 is the better choice.... besides ur not gonna use all of the 15 on the sfc's maybe half to a quarter so u will have leftover for other ****.
hmmm $15 delta. Anyone have pics of their Por-15 coated SFC's?

-Schultzy
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Wishmaster's87IROC
WOW, check out the shine...
hehe



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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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ROFL..... Thats funny as hell, I didnt think you knew what I was talkin bout when I said , "shine"

Cool Dude! ....hey you really painted that on your head!

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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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it was airbrushed! a cropped version of that was my avatar for a long time - hehe

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