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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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I just wanted to say,, great deal, great price,
( compared to what some people are giving for used ones on e-bay.)
Great fit too, it took about 10 min. to put it on. no modifications required.
I have only drove my car once after I installed it and really don't know if feels any diffrent with all the other things I did at the same time. I hope to know more this weekend.

Just not enough time for working on it.
My job is interfearing with my play time.

Bad picture but, got one wile I was under there

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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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Car: '87 Z
Engine: 355 in the works
Transmission: 700R4
I wish my undercarriage was that clean :hail:
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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Car: Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Me too! I just ordered one of the TDS bars the other day, but I wont have it until the 23rd, ground shipping cross country takes too long! I ordered the raw steel color too and I'm glad to finally see a pic of it, I cant wait until I get it, maybe I'll paint the sway bar while I've got it half off

I always make things more work then they have to be!
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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Looks good.
I've got the BMR one now and it took me a long time to get it installed. Most of my problems were from the new sway bar bushings I put on. I put 1.25" bushings and my bar is 1.5".

I need to snap a picture of it, it's much larger than the GM one I had.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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nice! i also went with the raw steel, glad to hear it went in flawlessly!

should have mine real soon.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 02:03 AM
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From: ABQ, NM, USA
Car: 1998 Z28 convertible
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Phooey.

I took a piece of 1" square stock tubing, 0.080" wall, cut it to 34.5". painted the middle. While that was drying, took my air angle grinder and stripped the paint off the two frame rails. removed sway bar. Then I welded the tubing directly to the frame rails so the tubing just cleared the radiator support. Painted the welds, then reinstalled the sway bar. This, coupled with the factory steering box angle braces grabbed off a wrecked Z28, should solve any problems. Advantages of this method over "Wonderbar":

1) Cost - tubing is $10 for 10 foot stick
2) Effectiveness - tubing welded to frame rails is more efficient. Bolts are under shear and move. Paint will evntually rub away, allowing brace to move even more.
3) Growth - tubing will be an excellent spot to mount power steering cooler
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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UMM.. O.K.
Lets just say the wonder bar is for those of us who don't have a welder, or who don't want to weld straight to our cars.

I'm glad you found a way that works for you thats cheaper. :hail:

And, thanks for sharing.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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I have been thinking about welding a wonderbar directly to the frame myself. If its done correctly I don't think there is anything wrong with that approach. It would be lighter too.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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'Me too" on the welding approach. It all depends on what tools you have. I made LCA relocation brackets and SFC's. I'm guessing I could find a piece of scrap tubing(square or round), and have no money in it. In any case, it looks like a worthwhile mod.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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I currently have the entire front end of my car taken apart to do a LT1 swap and complete suspension upgrade. Now would be the time to weld in my own wonderbar. A couple of questions:

1. Does anyone have any pictures of subframe cracks?
2. Can anyone think of anything that a welded in bar would prevent working on or removing?

I might weld brackets on and make the tube removable if it is going to be a maintenance problem.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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Car: 1998 Z28 convertible
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 700-R4
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I can e-mail pix of the procedure for those of you who want them- or would post them; my server isn,t worth a damn for posting... I found no interference problems with where I located the tube. I wish I would have done this two weeks ago when I had the motor out- I could have welded the factory Z28 steering brace for more rigidity also.

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