Is ground control the only place out there that makes an adjustable ride height setup for our cars besides air bags? If not, what else is out there?

 

i am pretty sure you could use the LG rear coil-over kit on a thirdgen.

as far as the fronts, i think they are it, unless you fabricate your own setup.

 

I don't really want to go to a coil over setup. If ground control is the only option for the front then I'm gonna go ahead and order everything today. As far as the rear goes I think the ground control and global west adjustable setup is the same thing correct? If anyone knows any more options out there please let me know before I spend all my $.

 

they are 'basicly' the same, i read a thread some time ago on another board about the diffrences, and IIRC people seemed to like the GW setup better, it had to do with the lower mount for the spring. really you can't go wrong with either of them, both are from companies with a proven name. although chances are the customer service at GC will be much better than GW.

 

Thanks Dewey, I really appreciate the info. I'm leaning toward the GC adjustable setup, front and rear with 700 front springs and 175 rear springs along with a set of tokico alumina shocks and stuts to go with it.

 

you might want to think about going with slightly higher rate rear springs, and then run a very small sway bar. but with only 700# up front, you are probably ok with 175-200 range. i really think the ticket is runinng 750-800 front, with 225 or so rear, and a small rear bar. i don't know that the tokico's will have enough dampening for that much spring though, you might want to think about getting something that is really up to the task of handling those.

 

I just found out some good info on the AGX's today. I was leaning toward the tokicos but I think I'm going with the AGX's instead. The AGX shocks adjust both rebound AND compression. They have the following dampning forces.

For the 4 position adjustment ****:
#1 position is same as factory or 100
#2 position is same as GR2 or 115
#3 position is 50% firmer than #2 or 172
#4 position is 30% firmer than #3 or 223

For the 8 position adjustment ****:
#1 position is 5% softer than factory or 95
#2 position is same as factory or 100
#3 position is 7.5% firmer than factory or 107.5
#4 position is 15% firmer than factory or 115
#5 position is 43.5% firmer than factory or 143.5
#6 position is 72% firmer than factory or 172
#7 position is 97.5% firmer than factory or 197.5
#8 position is 123% firmer than factory or 223

With that info I recieved directly from KYB you think they will be enough for the springs I want?

 

the tokico's also adjust both compresion and rebound. you reallly don't need that much compresion dampening, the key to the heavy springs is having alot of rebound. if you get crazy with the compression all it does is make for a bad ride.

 

Maybe if enough f-body guys email them, they'll make a system for us similar to their new mustang system. Too pricey for me though.

http://www.praxissystems.com/

http://www.bridgestone-firestone.com...d=2004/040205a

I only skimmed over the posts, so this may or may not be related to what you guys are talking about. I took their survey and said make an f-body system anyway.

Laters.

 

A 3200lb stock car running around an asphalt oval typically runs around 370 compression and 475 rebound. This would be with 900-1100lb springs mind you. Also take into note this car would be using 10-12" wide slicks. In the rear it'd be running just over 400 for compression and as low as 320 for rebound with spring rates anywhere from 100 to 250(leaf or coil setups). For daily driving and a little autox I think you'd be good but if yer looking to be seriously competitive in any kind of road or autox racing you'd be better balanced with Bilstein or Koni's offerings. You'd be borderline minimum on damping, IMO, for an actual race ready setup with a +700/175 spring setup.

I second deweys recommendation on the springs.

P.S With the setup in my sig below but with KYB GR2 fronts and the gas rears instead of the koni yellows the street ride wasn't the least bit harsh(almost felt stock over bumps but no body roll) but couldn't control my car worth a damn on the track. The dampers really do control the feel of the ride in our cars.

 

If you knew how much it costs for the materials to build those weight jacks you would barf. I almost did. We are all being gouged!

 

the materials are pretty cheap, but the time to assemble them, devolpe them, ect is what you are paying for. my machinist has looked at them, taken them apart, ect, and he says that the price is not bad for the labor involved in assembly.

and remeber GC is the only one selling them, they will sell them for what they can, they are a buisness afterall.

 

is it safe to put airbags in the rear stock coil springs? I was looking at the JCWhitney catalog. jegs has them also. someday down the road ill invest in some decent shocks/struts.