Has anybody tried the subframe connectors selling on Ebay for $119.99 by Dshop2000, the bolt ons. I think there was a group purchase at one time. I would really like to know how they fit.

 

I bought a set of those connectors for my 86 and they fit well and came with all of the hardware to intall them. The only problem i had was that the connector rubbed on the exhaust pipe in front of the convertor but that is because I had to use an aftermarket pipe and i dont think it has exactlty the same bend as the factory pipe does. It was nothing a quick swipe with a grinder that fixed the problem. For the money they are not a bad buy. I dont know if they are as heavy as some of the other connectors that are out there but I was happy. Hope this helps!

 

cgschassis is selling these for $140 on ebay. I did not see the ones you are talking about on there. But I am also looking for a good set of subframes for my 86. I bought all the BMR adj. Stuff LCA's, Panhard, and Track pack torque arm kit. I need to find a good set of subframes so I can tie them togethere with the cross member from my new torque arm kit.
Tony

 

I found the sfc from dshop2000 on ebay. heres a pick

 

I dunno about the design on those.
I figure if your gonna get something, get something good.
Why not pay an extra $30-$40 bucks and get some Alston's
or even Spohn's. The best one's I've seen on ebay are the weld-on MAC's but some prefer bolt-on.DUECE

 

I bought the Jeg's bolt on SFCs. Had no problems at all.
Those were only $180. Around $200 shipped. Not bad.
The paint is ok on them. They will rust a little bit. But I'm
going to sand and repaint them anyways. They have been
on my car for two years now, with very little rust areas.

EDIT: the Jegster SFCs are much thicker than most other
SFCs also! I have compared them to Spohn, Hotchkis and
Edelbrock.

 

I've heard that the cgs connectors have an exhaust clearance problem & are a pain to install. I think I'll go with the dshop2000s for now. I would like to thank everyone for the imput.

 

I bought the Alstons and bolted them in, then had them welded shortly afterwards. They clear the exhaust just fine and I can definitely feel a difference in the rigidity of the car. The one thing that bothers me about the connectors you posted a pic of is where they attach in the front and rear. The mounts look kinda flimsy to me. Remember, there's a lot of truth in the saying "you get what you pay for".

 

How much for the alstons & where can I get them?
I didn't know they made boltons. I might want them instead if they are stronger.

 

I saw the Mac weld in connectors on ebay for a decent price, but are they a good quality sub frame connector? Who is running these and are you satisfied with them? Thanks........

 

I got mine from Lon Salgren at Top Down Solutions for about $185 with the black powdercoating. I highly recommend doing business with Lon. He's very customer service oriented and a nice guy to boot!

 

I bought the CGS ones from e-bay.Beefy as Hell. The pics don't do them justice. The flanges are thick and sturdy.They even have flanges already installed to bolt a cage to.I haven't installed them yet,I'll let you know how they go.They came with a help line.
My only gripe is no pictures with the instructions,They are worded very well but some pics would help out a bunch.The directions say install time is 3 1/2 hours and that is bolting them on,so add a hour for welding then it's almost 5 hours to install them.
WOW most don't take that long do they?

 

Mine took me about 2-2.5 hours to install. Bolt in. The only
thing I don't like about them is the paint. They started to
flake a little bit in some spots. But I will be sanding, priming
and painting them over.

 

I plan on bolting then welding after that and I'm not to concerned with the paint they will be probably be under coated when I'm done. Thats why I like bolt on ones they all seem to have more brackets and braces than weld on and then you can put them on in your driveway and if you don't have a welder you can drive someware and have them welded and save on paying for labor to have them installd.

What did you think about the directions? Did they seem pretty easy to follow?
I'd like to get mine put in but Mother Nature isen't haveing it.
I've got to do mine outside and we've had four days of rain and are suppose to have around seven.

 

I also bought the ones from CGS but havent installed them. They do look pretty beefy. I was impressed with them for the money. When I get mine on I'll let everyone know how they work.

 

I have to agree 100% about the reasons you posted about
the bolt ons! That's EXACTLY the same reasons why I chose
the bolt on versions. More braces/brackets, easier to install,
and save time and money doing it yourself and afterwards,
you can have them reinforced with welds. They also seem to
be more beefier than weld ons too. Maybe not, but they
look like they are.

As far as directions for my Jegster SFCs, they were pretty
straightforward, and came with pics. Not really pics, more
like drawings, but they were detailed enough for a 10 year
old to figure out. lol

I did mine about two summers ago in my shop on a lift.
Other wise, I would be cursing on my back to get those
suckers in place right!

 

The directions are OK,they came with no pics/drawings of any kind. I even e-maild the company and they said they had none so when I get done I'll probably take some pics and send them to them so maybe they will include a black&white copy with them to help people with future installs.If they can get a good rep here they shure would sell more.

 

I am still thinking about what to buy. I put a low ball bid on the cgs connectors. I have to get something soon (time to get the car out for the summer). If anybody installed the cgs's I would like to know how it went. Pictures would help.:hail:

 

If the damn rain stays away long enough I plan on getting mine installed tomorrow and I'll post pics ASAP.

 

I look forward to seeing the pics!!!!! The install should make for a good story too.

 

If you can, for all others to see, make it a "tech article".
I don't think anyone has made a tech article on SFC
installation. Good luck. Have fun. You won't regret putting
them on! Very stiff chassis afterwards!

 

I got them on. The drivers side was cake the pass. side was a little trickey'r. I ran into a problem with a bolt breaking off in the converter flange so I gotta drill that out and get the converter back on and then I'll tell ya how the car rides. When you install them it's best to loosen the factory Y pipe,the directions say just remove the converter but then the Y pipe is still an obsticall.
Loosen it and you'll have enough play to work/drill around it.
Also the front 2 bolts that go thru you floor pan need to go from the bottom up on the front pass. side not from the top down or you'll have your nut against the Y pipe.You also got to make sure that your pinch weld flange that runs along the outter edge of your floor is strait and not distorted.On the drivers side the connector runs rite against it but on the drivers side you have about a 1/8 inch gap.I don't have a digital camera so I'll have to borrow one this weekend to get some pics.By the way the paint held up quite well considering I had the jack directly against it and I did notice that the metal brackets on the connectors was thicker and beefier than the factory subframe itself.

 

Sorry no pics yet. I'll have to borrow a camera to take some and it's f***ing raining again.But they work great,I'll put them on every third gen I own from now on.
TABBOO did you win the ones you bid on?

 

You must be close to me,cause everytime you say it's
raining out, it's raining in my area too! I live in Mass.
Where are you?

Just my 2 cents, the Jeg's SFCs were pretty easy. So
easy in fact that I didn't need to do anything with the
exhaust except to slightly pry it down to get the SFC
to fit through. After that, it was pretty straight forward.

 

I installed the CGS SFC's on my car a couple months ago. They are a high quality (very beefy) product and I am happy with them. Really made the car feel solid.

As for the installation it was pretty easy the only problem I would say is moving the cat out of the way, that can be tricky. I just torched mine off and had an exauhst shop put it back together when I was done with the installation.

Overall good product.

Check out this thread I started on them a while back

<a href="https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225151&highlight=cgs">https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...&highlight=cgs</a>

 

For that price, they do look pretty good! Not bad at all.
Maybe someone should start a tech article AND a post of
different types of SFCs. Like how they did the "header
chart" thingy. This would help out the confusion and be
more aware of what's a good SFC, and what's not! I would
start one, but I don't have the time to get all the info on
each part. Plus I don't have any experience in a lot of them.
Only Jeg's SFCs.

 

I live in S. Indiana. Supposably the rain is suppose to stay away this weekend and I'll have to run down a camera.I need to find a cheep descent one so I don't have to keep borrowing from friends.

 

I bought the CGS connectors on Ebay last week, they look pretty beefy ( more wieght just what I need huh ).
I will hopefully install them next week.
Some pics in the instructions would be nice.
I'll tell the installation story after it's done.

 

I just got thru installing SLP headers for a single cat and was afraid of interferance with the Y pipe and the CGS connectors and actually I have more clearence now than what I did with the factory Y pipe. I think I'm going to buy another set for any future third gen I may own. I think once there populairty increases so will there price.

 

I got mine for $110.00 plus shipping & handling so don't overpay.
I've seen them go as high as $130.00 plus S&H.
Still waiting for time to put mine on, hope it goes well. I think things will be easy to get apart since my TA lives in the garage & it only has 28,000 miles so everything under the car is like knew.

 

A little tip when doing the pass. side. After removeing the cat. slide the connector between the body and Y pipe then raise it and connect it to the rear control arm mount then raise it and hold it in place with a floor jack pressing it against the body then drill your holes and after installing the bolts that pass thru the floor move your jack to the front brace comming off the connector so your connector stays snugly against the body.

I got mine for $115 shipped. I think the reserve was $105 and $10 shipping. Worth every penny.

 

Thanks for the tip. If you ever get any installed pics I would love to see them!!!!! Thankyou for all the info you have given me.

 

still no pics?? did you guys install these in your driveways?? or garages? my friend has a lift I am thinking about putting my car up on that to put my cgs sfc's. will that make it easier? btw I have edelbrock tes headers and a dynomax catback will this interfere??

 

I did mine in a gravel driveway useing 4 jack stands with 2 4x8 sheets of plywood to lay on. and a cheep a$$ WalMart welder. A lift will make thangs a lot easier but remember the weight of the car needs to be on all 4 wheeles.

I would think that your exhaust should be fine.
Everybody here seems to have trouble with SLP's Y pipe and subframe connectors but I never and I have more room now than I did with the factory exhaust.

 

Has anybody got any pics of this install? I plan on installing mine soon (just bought a house so I'm kind of busy). If I get mine done first I will post some.

 

I need to install my spohn SFC's soon... can i put the fronts on ramps and jack the rear up by the pumpkin? if so, I'll get to work in a couple of days. thanks guys!

 

Yes you can have the front tires setting on ramps and jack the rear by the center diff but let it down with jackstands under the rear axel tubes and use the jack to hold the SFC's in place for welding. Besides there's no way in hell I'ed work under a car only supported by a jack.

 

no, of course not, but you got my idea. thanks! I'm gonna go rent a welder from somewhere in town and get to work. thanks!

 

BUY SPOHN! I had my set installed on tuesday by a chassis fabricator friend (for Jeeps no less) and he thought the fit, finish, and design were perfect for the car.