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Old May 8, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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torque arm any ideas on how to keep this from happening ?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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here are links

to the pic of it

http://home.comcast.net/~z28guy83/crack1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~z28guy83/crack2.JPG
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Old May 9, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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Engine: 5.7 TPI; 5.0 TBI; ZZ4/T56 on the ag
Transmission: A4, A4, slated to be a T56
Looks like you need to upgrade to a Spohn torque arm or another aftermarket piece.

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Old May 9, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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yeah

its killing me cause i just got a brand new built 10 bolt and i cant drive the car till i get a torque arm now i got that sitting in my yard along with the 9 bolt its attached too
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Old May 9, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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Car: 86 Aero TA
Engine: ZZ4
Transmission: T-56 Rear: Dana 44
What were you doing when it broke? Do you have a traction problem like in serious wheel hop? I've never seen a TA break like that.
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Old May 9, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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well i noticed it when doing a rear swap dont really know when it happened just that it did i mean i really havent been hard the car
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Old May 9, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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You've broken other torque arms before? Same way? If so something is definately wrong. MAYBE the bolts were too tight? Those bolts need to be torqued to a certain spec and if they're too tight bad things can happen - not sure if it would cause that kind of damage though.
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Old May 9, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Engine: 5.7 TPI; 5.0 TBI; ZZ4/T56 on the ag
Transmission: A4, A4, slated to be a T56
I've got a stocker here at the house if you'd like a quick fix until you get a good one. Let me know...

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Old May 9, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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BMR trackpac, i dare you to break that. www.bmrfabrication.com
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Old May 9, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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yeah last time it was just at the top where the bolts mount this time was worse


eb im gonna hit the yard tomorrow to get one till i can get a good one

i really wanna see how much better these 3:73's are
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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I think the torque on the bolts is like 72 ftlbs. I am fairly sure I read a bulletin about over torquing the bolts distorts the case and causes premature pinion bearing failure. If my tired old brain remembers correctly.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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If you're breaking torque arms in the same location its not because the torque arm is weak, its because there is something wrong with your suspension and/or chassis. Buy a stronger aftermarket one and you may not break it but I bet something else will start breaking in place of it - Maybe something more expensive.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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well for now i got another stocker this is the second time in 3 1/2 years that it has happened im gonna get the spohn or the bmr just gotta get the money together
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Old May 11, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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If you keep wreckin arms why don't you just reenforce.

Box all your pressed pieces(sway bars, lower control arms,ets.) and reenforce your arm. It's under the car so no-ones gonna see it, so it don't have to be pretty. Make it bullet proof, get rid of all the play.

From what you have described of the car in your signature. It's probably braking when you're shifting or starting off. The gearing and torque that you have will of course brake stuff.
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Old May 11, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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well the only thing left that is pressed is the Torque arm so ill be ordering a spohn piece as soon as i can get the cash together
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Old May 11, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Axle/Gears: 3.23
I'm thinking about getting that short BMR one that gets the torque arm off the tranny. It says it makes more noise but I wonder how much more noise it is???
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Old May 12, 2004 | 01:39 AM
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dunno i hope it wouldnt be alot more noise these cars have enough rattles and noises
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Old May 12, 2004 | 02:19 AM
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Very true.

Only other cars I've driven that was even close on the rattle and creaking department is fox body mustangs.

I'm not worried about the noise if it will help with traction.
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