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Old May 9, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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pop when turning

When i first accelerate and am turning slowly to the left there is a loud pop that i can feel under the floorboard, not sure if it happens when turning right also..it is right underneath and i can feel it by the pedals...i thought it might be the sway bar end link but i have recently replaced them and checked them..no problems.. any suggestions??
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Old May 9, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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cracked frame by the gear box???
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Old May 9, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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plz dont tell me its a cracked frame...there is no way to fix that is their??

Where exactly is the steering box?? pics would help greatly

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Old May 10, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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Look for a broken tranny mount.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by david_0161
plz dont tell me its a cracked frame...there is no way to fix that is their??

Where exactly is the steering box?? pics would help greatly
Wow...don't take this the wrong way, but if you can't identify the steering gearbox I'd recommend you put the wrench down and take it to a shop.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Try lubing the frt suspension first.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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If the frame isn't cracked , check the K member bolts. Mine were at like 25 ft.lbs , and it popped loud when I turned. After I tightened them to spec. No more noise.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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I have never had to deal with the steering gearbox so im not quite sure where it is located and i am deffintly not taking it to a shop. I just checked under the car again and it looks like the grease has ran out of it...after i just greased it?? hopefully i didnt crack the bag
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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by david_0161
I have never had to deal with the steering gearbox so im not quite sure where it is located and i am deffintly not taking it to a shop. I just checked under the car again and it looks like the grease has ran out of it...after i just greased it?? hopefully i didnt crack the bag
Wow again...the steering gearbox has no grease fittings...

I'd recommend a Haynes manual from the local bookstore if you're really dead-set against having a shop work on it.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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the closest thing to the steering box with a greese nipple is the pitman rod.....
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Old May 11, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Please don't take offence but......

Steering gear box:

A. What is the box that the the big rod from the steering wheel goes in to, is bolted to the front sub frame and has a small arm (called a pitman arm) sticking out of it that moves the front tires left and right, Alex
B. What is that car a hot girl is riding in that causes you to turn your head and your steering wheel when you see her
C. What is that big box in the middle of the road that fell off the truck in front of you you have to steer around

Greasing 101:
1 get a grease gun
2 fill the grease gun and don't let the entire tube shoot out before you have the gun back together
3 get car up in air in sutch a way it will not fall on you
4 attach gun to zerk fitting
5 pump untill you see clean grease coming out
6 remove gun
7 clean up mess
8 repete for remaning 8 (total of nine) grease zerks on your car
9 two days later get under car again and wipe up the mess again

sorry for being a smart axx

(ps you might find a post on here (suspension board) explaining why I have a broken foot right now)

ryan

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Old May 11, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by FirebirdNYC
the closest thing to the steering box with a greese nipple is the pitman rod.....
nope the pitman arm is a non wear item the grease zerk you are talking about is actually on the centerlink or drag link what ever you want to call it

Ryan
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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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oops never mine, yeh that was the centerlink end

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Old May 13, 2005 | 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by david_0161
plz dont tell me its a cracked frame...there is no way to fix that is their??

Where exactly is the steering box?? pics would help greatly
i got the same problem with my T/A,but it dosent' pop.The crack is under the steering box where it is bolted on.Most body shop should do the work.

Follow the steering column can't miss it
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Old May 13, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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i get a light pop when i do a hard slow turn in the parking lot think it is also the streing box? i just did the greasing
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Old May 13, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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what about checking the ball joint?
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Old May 13, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by IROC212
If the frame isn't cracked , check the K member bolts. Mine were at like 25 ft.lbs , and it popped loud when I turned. After I tightened them to spec. No more noise.
how many lbs did you tighten the kmember ? i believe thats my problem. but then again i never replaced my balljoints..
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Old May 17, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Hi guys!
I wonder if you can help a Limey with a Firebird? Yes, I'm from across the pond in good old Blighty. Anyway, I read with interest about the possible cracks in the chassis next to the steering box. My 1985 Firebird (dunno which type - 5.0 litre motor) had this problem which I only discovered after buying her. My local garage plated and welded the chassis, so hopefully it's fine now. No wonder she was all over the road - I thought it was just down to soft suspension and recirculating ball ? steering! Is this cracking a common problem with the F-bodies?

Now that I've also replaced the rubber disk in the flexible steering column joint next to the steering box I should be able to get the wheel alignment checked and adjusted if needs be.

Be seeing you. Hopefully we can cope with any language differences (hood=bonnet, trunk=boot etc.)

Cheers,
Mark.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Howdy! I travel on business in the High Wycombe and Saunderton areas occasionally, hope some time we can meet up for a beer...third-genners in the UK are a rarity!

Unfortunately, the cracking you found is fairly common. Good preventative step would be a brace similar to the GM "wonderbar" they equipped the IROCs with, available from several of the sponsors here.

My personal favorite is the one sold by Top Down Solutions http://www.top-downsolutions.com/ and I've seen the Spohn.net one appearing good also. The TDS one bolted right in, clears my fan shroud and 36mm swaybar easily, and is much larger/beefier material than the original GM piece which I'd bent at Lime Rock Park previously.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the info. I'd actually had a surf around the TDS site after posting and spotted their bar (downloaded their instructions for it too )

The beer sounds a great idea, though my missus may disagree with me travelling all that way. High Wycombe is a fair distance from Chipping, Lancashire and us Brits aren't used to driving the same distances. Hehe.
You never know though...

Cheers,
Mark.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 02:42 AM
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hi, my car dont have the triangular brace that stiff the steering box area.Maybe that's why it's craked.I found some very cheap at the junkyeard.I don't know what year it came stock...or if the original one's fell of.I doubt it,but the holes are there,i just tap the tread.

Does anyone have some info about that,i would be nice!
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