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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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4th gen front spindles

has anyone ever tried to get teh 4th gen front spindles to work? and also is there a way to also swap the front ABS with or without the 4th gen front spindle? thanks
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Anything can be done with $$$ and time.

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Why the hell would you want to do that? Have you even looked at the designs of the 2 suspensions?

Yea, sure, you could do it if you cut the whole upper half/control arm/balljoint off, welded a new section on to attach to the strut… and then I doubt that it could be done with reasonable geometry. Or if you cut off the front subframe of the car and grafted on a fabricated one or the subframe/inner fenders... from a 4th gen.

I mean, you’ve asked the functional equivalent of “will elephant legs work on my wiener dog?” They are still legs, if you changed everything about the wiener dog and made a big technological leap, sure…
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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abs would be more trouble then it is worth. hell they already do not work on half the cars that have them stock.... abs (to my limited knowledge) functions by detecting vibration changes in your hubs/brakes. using this input they (abs commputer) can tell when your tires are nearing the "point of no return" they then pump the brakes for you faster then you could (in theory, i have had a few cars that did about one pump avery three seconds cough*fordranger*cough)

half the time they lose partial functionality if you change wheels or brakes to drasticaly, let alone change a car. you would have to almost re-engineer the system from scratch.

but like others have said, with enough time and money anything is possible.

odd observation:
anyone with enough mechanical sense to get that to work would probably be inteligent enough to pump the brakes. anyone who is unanble to pump brake sprobably can't install abs on a car w/o it

kinda funny huh
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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ABS has wheel speed sensors that work the same as the speedo VSS sender in a transmission and similarly to a distributor pick up. All it does is measures RPM and compares the 3 or 4 inputs (some only use a single one on the rear axle) and pulses the brake pressure to the wheels that are turning slower to attempt to get them all within a rather small percent of each other.

It works if you just stop the brakes and pray, but in general, I don’t know of any of them that work better then a good driver, and some of the older systems work worse then all but the worst drivers. The ABS on my ’92 chevy truck is disabled because it actually made stopping distances longer under bad conditions (if it detected some slip it felt like you were standing on a cinderblock and the stopping distance got a lot longer), later GM had a recall that essentially rewired it to work like it does in 4x4 all the time (it turns out that it’s basically disabled in 4x4)
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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yea the only reason im posting this up is becasue im swapping in a LS1 and 4th gen wiring harness and didnt know what to do with the front suspension
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