Hello all,

I got all new suspension components and am having serious issues with getting the springs installed. THey are the moroso trick springs, for the small block. The origional springs were just over half the hight of the new springs uncompressed. I bought a spring compressor form sears but there dosent seem to be enough room to fit it in there to get the spring installed. Please give me a hand on tips for install. pics or descreptions or anything would be appriciated.

Also should i be cutting these springs down. ive seen people say dont cut them down and they will settle to a good hight but ive also hear people cutting up to two and a half coils off, also how much does it help for easing install when you cut down the coils.

Thaks a ton for the help,

Eli
Raptere

 

Hey,
Well ive been looking around and found a few possibilities. It sounds like i may have to remove between one and two full coils from the springs. Does this sound right for my application? Also i found a few new things to help get them installed. I read a post that explained banding of springs. Compressing springs putting some kind of band around them to keep them compressed then you just cut off the band after install. Also ive been toying with the thought of using a spring compressor from the inside of the coil, but not sure where id be going with that.

Does any one know a place that will do spring banding in the north of chicago suburbs area. (northshore) (Deerfield Specifically)

I would still appriciate any input anyone may have. I also have to goout of town tommorrow so i would really like to get this figured out today.

THanks,

Eli
Raptere

 

well, i just put a set of eibach springs in my 84 saturday, and i can tell you that a spring compressor that goes inside of the spring would be great, if you can find one that wont hit the top spring mount before it compresses the spring, i was gonna cut the tool i had, but it was rented and the new springs were about 2" shorter(free height, the coil wire was about 1/8" larger dia than the original V6 springs were, hince more spring rate) but i would recomend finding the springcompressor for you, the reason for the taller springs is that it allows the suspention to lift the front higher, and load the rearend more completely, my dad used a similar tirck in the 70's, using 6cyl malibu springs in the front of a smallblock chevelle, it never spun a tire....

 

I just put the same springs on my 89 firebird. We cut 1-1/4 coil off the spring to get it back in the car. It sat way too high before we cut the coil off. Now it sits lower than stock in the front, but it looks great! And it also works, my last 60 ft. at the track was a 1.69, and that's with a sbc 355 ci. running high 12's.

 

so i called every automotive place i know, and found out a few things. THere is a spring compressor you can get that works in the center of the spring i am going to go pick one of thoes up shortly. Also i found out banding of springs in my area isnt done. i found a place that does it but they said it was so dangerous to transprot the banded springs they couldnt let me leave the premisis with it.

As for cutting the coils you said you cut one and a quarter off your springs but that gave you a really low stance, i like low although my front wheels are already slightly smaller diamitor then my backs so if i trim off one full coil do you all think that should make for a good ride hight as well as a bit easier install?

 

Only trial and error will get you the ride height you are looking for..it sucks if you don't get it right the first time but its what you have to do. Its different for every car depending on the weight and size of rims and tires. I had to cut about 2 1/2 coils off mine but my car is light in the front end(fiberglass hood, Aluminum heads, no ac, no emmisions, power steering delete, battery relocated). If your car is basically stock I would start with cutting about 1 coil off and go from there.

 

well install of front suspension is done front will be next weekend i believe.

I ended up cutting one coil off and the new spring compressor i got that works from the middle worked great. Car is definitly lower than i had expected but no rubing or bumping so i guess its ok. The car just feels amazingly better and i havnt done the back suspension yet. I dont recal if i mentioned it but i also installed lakewood drag shocks as well as polyurithane bushings with my install. i cant wait to get in the back suspension and put my summer tires and drag radials back on.

Thanks for the help guys.

PS for anyone else doing this i would not suggest cutting an entire coil with a pretty much stock weight car.

 

your not supposed to cut at all guys, that's the trick, taller springs in the first place...........

 

Hey, i just noticed i never asked you all what exact pn you guys were using. I ordered the 47210 which says it is only good for cars with a front weight of up to 1750 lbs, ive been looking around and found it looks liek the front end of our cars is closer to 1800 or 1900 lbs stock with a 350 engine and a 700r4. Is it possible i actually need the 47215 springs which are designed for veihicles with a front end weight of 1750 to 2000 lbs?

WHich springs did you all use?

-ELi

PS: the springs i have in there now that i cut one coil off of are far to short and rest on the bump stops, so i have to order a new set of coils and fixt this.
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also does anyone know of a place in my area i mentioned above where i can get the front end of my car weighed?

 

any one going to help me out on this one?


Also i now have a pair of Moroso "Trick" springs (47210) for sale they have been installed but not used very much a few dings here and there from install. Also they have had one coil cut off, but other than that they are new.
I still have the box and instructions.

Please reply with any offers or interests/questions.

-ELi

 

sry doubble post

 

What did you use to cut the springs? If you used a cutting torch the heat will affect the springs and make them sag and affect the spring rate basically ruining them. The 47210 springs are made for small block cars and should work fine on yours. The 47215 springs are made for big block applications.

 

Yea thats exactly what i thought. I did cut them with a cut off wheel so the springs are fine. I just ordered the new set hopfully they will work better this time with out cutting them.

No one interested in the old springs?

 

I am also thinking about installing moroso trick springs. How are they on the street?

 

They drive fine on the street. I have had no problems at all. I really can't tell the difference between the stock springs and the moroso's on the street, but at the track, the drag launch springs out perform the stock.