lowered my car with dropzones Help

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Jan 6, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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i installed dropzone springs all the way around with tokico illumina adjustable struts, i installed new a arm bushings and energy suspension bump stops 2"? 9.9150G, the cars stance looks great except when i hit some dips in the road i hear the tire scrape the top of the plastic fender lining, i never feel it hit the bump stops, anyone else have this problem? i'm running 245/50/16's in the front, 255/50/16's in the back
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Jan 6, 2007 | 07:59 PM
  #2  
What are your illuminas set at? Stiffening them up may help some, else you could remove the plastic liner or live with it.
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Jan 6, 2007 | 10:33 PM
  #3  
they are set on 4
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Jan 7, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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i have had mine on for 3 years and no problem,stock shocks, new alignment, and new lower bushings, well my tire does rub ever so slightly at the very bottom of inner fender, must be when i turn. cannot hear it
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Jan 7, 2007 | 09:45 AM
  #5  
i'll have to further investigate, maybe it's that stupid air dam under the radiator
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Jan 7, 2007 | 01:52 PM
  #6  
You are probably sitting on the bump stops at your static ride height. I would crawl under the car, or at least stick my head under and take a look. The shape of the factory bump stop makes it hard to feel when you actually hit the bump stop as they are progressive.

The problem with most aftermarket lowering springs is that they rely on the bump stop to keep things from rubbing.
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Jan 7, 2007 | 04:02 PM
  #7  
well i cant be driving like this, the dropzones are coming out and eibach pro kit in
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Jan 7, 2007 | 07:10 PM
  #8  
dude just live with it my plastic inner fenders are gone from rubbing so much but i love the look more than the ride so i just try to be careful.
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Jan 7, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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You're trading crap for crap with the eibach kit. Eibach has openly admitted that they use the bump stops to soak up medium to large bumps. This was mentioned in the "eibach spring rate" thread.

Almost all aftermarket spring companies that sell "kits" don't raise the spring rate enough to deal with the decreased ride height. The real problem here is that f-bodies don't have a whole lot of suspension travel stock. Take away 1.5 to 3" of travel and your left with 2-3" of travel. Thats really not much at all. The aftermarket spring companies have to design for the average Joe that wants their stock ride quality but that "slammin look yo" stance. They do this with the soft spring rates and rely on the bump stops to "catch" the chassis on the bigger bumps.

I suggest cutting your stock springs for a slight drop, or look into getting springs ment for hobby stock dirt track cars. They drop right in and you can any spring rate you want.
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Jan 10, 2007 | 05:10 PM
  #10  
no, the sportlines use the bump stops, not the pro-kit, the pro kit is only a 1" drop.
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Jan 10, 2007 | 05:59 PM
  #11  
Thanks for the correction. I do know from that thread that they don't raise the spring rate any from stock, so I still feel that trimming the stock springs is a better option.
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Jan 10, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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cutting stock springs, is it that difficult or do you just mark and cut at the same place the spring ends one coil down????????

and if I do that do i need an adjustable pan hard bar??????????
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Jan 11, 2007 | 08:37 AM
  #13  
I dropped my car with cut ebachs and also rebuilt the entire suspension. never had a problem with the tire hitting the top just the sides. What size tires are you running and also i coundnt use the new bump stops because i would have had NO suspension travel so i had to shave down the old ones to 3/4 of an inch.
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Yes you will need an adjustable panhard bar any time you lower or raise the rear. but you can get one for a 100 bucks. Cutting the stock springs is very easy- just start with a whole coil( or less, i like to ride low) and do small amounts intell you get what you want
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Jan 17, 2007 | 05:55 AM
  #14  
i installed the eibach pro kit over the weekend and the height is just a hair over the old worn out stock springs so they should settle a bit, and i love the look it had with the worn out springs
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Jan 17, 2007 | 03:53 PM
  #15  
What about these?

http://spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1542
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What about these?

http://spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1542

Will this help the ride....like so I dont rub if I ever do? Or help because you lose 1" of travel?
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by losing an inch I meant from the lowering of the car.....not from the spohn parts
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Jan 17, 2007 | 05:37 PM
  #16  
Nope, that's just an upper strut mount. The only way to stop the rubbing is to get stiffer springs and/or get a stiffer/taller bump stop and trim them to keep things from rubbing.
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Jan 18, 2007 | 07:45 AM
  #17  
It says it gives an extra 1" of travel for lowered cars?
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Jan 18, 2007 | 04:44 PM
  #18  
Ahh....missed that. What those do is move the trut mount up vertically 1". What this will do is allow your wheel to travel 1" further into the fender, assuming your trim the factory bump stop to allow this. If you are rubbing the fender now, this will just allow you to do it worse once you trim your bump stop.

Have you looked to see exactly where it's rubbing?
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Jan 18, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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Quote: Ahh....missed that. What those do is move the trut mount up vertically 1". What this will do is allow your wheel to travel 1" further into the fender, assuming your trim the factory bump stop to allow this. If you are rubbing the fender now, this will just allow you to do it worse once you trim your bump stop.

Have you looked to see exactly where it's rubbing?
I dont understand why they would be for lowered cars then?
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Jan 19, 2007 | 03:06 AM
  #20  
Quote: i installed the eibach pro kit over the weekend and the height is just a hair over the old worn out stock springs so they should settle a bit, and i love the look it had with the worn out springs
Do you mind getting some pictures of the Pro Kit on your car?

Seems like everyone goes for the massive 2-3 inch slammed look, I just want a really tame 1 inch or so drop and Im curious as to if that makes enough of a difference in stance for it to be worth it to me.
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Jan 19, 2007 | 10:15 AM
  #21  
Quote: Do you mind getting some pictures of the Pro Kit on your car?

Seems like everyone goes for the massive 2-3 inch slammed look, I just want a really tame 1 inch or so drop and Im curious as to if that makes enough of a difference in stance for it to be worth it to me.
Yeah I'm doing the 1" too....I cant do that much with CLEVELAND ROADS.....THEY SUCK-***. Lol. NEVER GO DOWNTOWN WITH A NICE LOWERED CAR OR ONE WITH RIMS....YOU'LL BE GOING BACK ON FLAT TIRES AND BENT RIMS...SERIOUSLY. PICTURES???
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Jan 19, 2007 | 12:19 PM
  #22  
i'll try to post some pics after work, i'll have to take it out of the garage.


i dont believe the tires were rubbing the upper lining, it was probably that air dam in the front under the radiator it was about an inch off the ground, it looked nice but too low to be watching out for every bump, i'm happy with the eiback pro kit
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Jan 19, 2007 | 03:11 PM
  #23  
http://www.86camarosc.com/prokit1.jpg
http://www.86camarosc.com/prokit2.jpg
http://www.86camarosc.com/prokit3.jpg
http://www.86camarosc.com/prokit4.jpg
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Jan 19, 2007 | 03:29 PM
  #24  
What wheels are those?
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Jan 19, 2007 | 03:46 PM
  #25  
Awesome....nice shots....isnt too much but is just enough or me. Thanks. Also, what shocks and struts you use? Lastly...yeah those wheels are BAD@$$
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Jan 19, 2007 | 04:36 PM
  #26  
i'm using tokico illumina 5 way adjustable shocks and struts, the wheels are the zq8 option on newer sonoma's and s10's they've become somewhat popular around here since i've put them on.
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Jan 19, 2007 | 09:42 PM
  #27  
Your carl ooks fantastic, what other suspension pieces did you change? Adjustable panhard bars and torque arms and all that other stuff? I dont know how big of a deal a 1 inch drop is to stock geometry, but from what I gather it's just enough to require the investment.
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Jan 20, 2007 | 11:15 AM
  #28  
a 1" drop is just enough to change it, i just installed lower control arm relocation brackets, all my mods are in the sig except for a couple. thanks for the compliments
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